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It's not even the GOP establishment. Cruz is going to do whatever the gently caress he wants. No one itt has ever offered me a good reason why Cruz won't try to alter the convention rules in his favor. I'm not saying he'll be successful but why wouldn't he try?
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Joementum posted:Exclusive footage of Trump's VP at a Cruz rally. He is such a loving piece of poo poo.
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:No one itt has ever offered me a good reason why Cruz won't try to alter the convention rules in his favor. I'm not saying he'll be successful but why wouldn't he try? Can he? Isn't there a final vote on rules the day before the convention or so? I doubt he has any influence on changes to the rules and is trying to work on delegate flipping at this point as it's all he can do.
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May 2, 2016 18:50
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Just wait, I bet that there is a rules committee for the rules committee. It's turtles all the way down.
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May 2, 2016 18:52
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Louisgod posted:Can he? Isn't there a final vote on rules the day before the convention or so? I doubt he has any influence on changes to the rules and is trying to work on delegate flipping at this point as it's all he can do. The rules committee is formed by pairs of delegates from each state / territory, elected to the committee by majority vote from each delegation. Cruz is going around and filling entire delegations with his supporters, even if they're bound to Trump.
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May 2, 2016 18:52
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We are going to find out that the RNC is the dream of a small autistic child.
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May 2, 2016 18:53
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MC Nietzche posted:I'm going to laugh so hard when all the doubters finally see that the GOP just doesn't give a gently caress what the plebes think of them because what're you going to do vote for Hillary???? Would you bet a one month probation that Trump won't be the nominee even if he gets to 1237?
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May 2, 2016 18:53
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Pick posted:We are going to find out that the RNC is the dream of a small autistic child. We already knew the RNC has strong libertarian leanings
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May 2, 2016 18:54
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"You can't do that, Cruz. It's forbidden by the double secret shadow rules committee that governs rules committees."
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A day or two ago, someone mentioned that Heidi Cruz got quickly corrected by her husband's campaign for calling him an immigrant.quote:"Do you know that Ted has been winning the millennial vote in state after state?" Heidi Cruz said. "He's been winning the women's vote in state after state. Ted is an immigrant. He is Hispanic. He can unify this party." quote:"Heidi just misspoke. She meant to say ‘Ted is the son of an immigrant’ as she’s said at countless stops before,” said Brian Phillips of the Cruz campaign. What I learned today is that Trump is still making Canadian jokes on the campaign trail: quote:"Rafael! Straight outta the hills of Canada," Trump said at a rally in Connecticut last week. "Was a Canadian citizen until 14, 15 months ago. And then he ran for the Senate. You know, you're registered as a Canadian citizen. He says, 'Oh, I'd never do that.' He never knew he was a Canadian! I can't believe that." quote:"Heidi Cruz -- nice woman," Trump began. "She said this one: 'My husband's an immigrant!' He's an immigrant! That's what I've been trying to say!' " Poor Ted still denies his Canadian heritage. He says on his Presidential campaign website: quote:After being tortured and imprisoned in Cuba, Ted’s father, Rafael, fled to the United States to attend the University of Texas at Austin in 1957. He then started a small business in the oil and gas industry. Today, Ted’s father is a pastor in Dallas. On his official Senate website: quote:Ted’s father was born in Cuba, fought in the revolution, and was imprisoned and tortured. He fled to Texas in 1957, penniless and not speaking a word of English. He washed dishes for 50 cents an hour, paid his way through the University of Texas, and started a small business in the oil and gas industry. Today, Ted’s father is a pastor in Dallas. Hm, and where did Ted's dad work in oil and gas? He can't admit it! 
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  quote:Now, after his race is over, Rubio again refuses to stand up and stand tall against the cranks in his party. He proclaims that Trump’s “performance has improved significantly.” Really? I am curious to know whether Rubio thinks the Trump foreign policy address, littered with contradictions and absurdities, was a significant improvement. What about Trump’s embrace of Mike Tyson and denial that he is a convicted rapist? His assertions that we should give the bomb to South Korea and Japan and pull back from NATO? Judging by his silence on these issues, Rubio seems no different from rank opportunists such as Newt Gingrich. Even worse, Rubio went so far as to support Trump’s argument that he does not really need a majority. “I do think it’s valid to argue to delegates: ‘Look, let’s not divide the party. You have someone here who has all these votes, very close to get 1,237, let’s not ignore the will of the people or they’re going to be angry.’ ” Yes, we wouldn’t want to anger the mob that Trump has stirred up. Rubio is a waste
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Pick posted:"You can't do that, Cruz. It's forbidden by the double secret shadow rules committee that governs rules committees." Cruz sighed as he drew his copy of Robert's
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:The rules committee is formed by pairs of delegates from each state / territory, elected to the committee by majority vote from each delegation. Cruz is going around and filling entire delegations with his supporters, even if they're bound to Trump. Okay, so does he have the potential to get the rules changed? Is there a vote right before the RNC? Legit asking, I know he's been trying to influence the delegate swing but if the intent is to warp the rules to his favor, then hail satan
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May 2, 2016 18:58
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Alter Ego posted:Wanna meet these "Democrats". Oh yeah, with all the primary polls I forgot that Rasmussen is hilariously biased in favor of GOP candidates.
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May 2, 2016 19:00
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https://twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/727186579668779009 Ed Klein's profession is writing books where he makes up fake conversations between Hillary Clinton and other people in government and swears they're genuine. If Trump believes him, we're going to have a very interesting campaign.
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May 2, 2016 19:00
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eric posted:Would you bet a one month probation that Trump won't be the nominee even if he gets to 1237? I already toxxed that Trump won't be the nominee no matter how the primary turns out in the toxx thread.
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May 2, 2016 19:00
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Louisgod posted:Okay, so does he have the potential to get the rules changed? Is there a vote right before the RNC? Legit asking, I know he's been trying to influence the delegate swing but if the intent is to warp the rules to his favor, then hail satan If the GOP throws out every rule to gently caress over Trump they'll gently caress over Cruz as well and install an established candidate guaranteed to lose. Trump will probably also run 3rd party.
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May 2, 2016 19:01
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Joementum will have to confirm but yeah, the rules committee must approve the convention rules by majority vote in the days leading up to the first ballot. I think Reince appoints the committee chair, so the establishment will have some control here, but the nuclear option exists and I believe Cruz is crazy enough to use it
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Joementum posted:https://twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/727186579668779009 
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:Joementum will have to confirm but yeah, the rules committee must approve the convention rules by majority vote in the days leading up to the first ballot. I approach this from a different angle: I think the establishment would have to be loving pants-on-the-head crazy to not try it. Handing Trump the keys to the kingdom would be the end of the GOP, it would be complete anarchy.
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Majorian posted:How do you not remember Heaven's Gate? Are you 12? heaven's gate killed they self nearly 20 years ago at this point
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:Cruz getting constantly heckled and bullied is absolutely going to result on him going all in and never conceding right up to the first ballot. If Trump wins tomorrow he'll have 1237+ Trump has won.
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May 2, 2016 19:04
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Pick posted:Obama had more fun with Trump last year, of course, but this year it would have been gauche to go so far. I like Obama, voted for him twice and worked on his campaign. But it seems a bit gauche for a sitting President to laugh at the concerns of an angry electorate rather than, you know, addressing them.
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Majorian posted:How do you not remember Heaven's Gate? Are you 12? edit: ah poo poo nvm
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what the gently caress is Ted Cruz even doing at this point? rather, why?
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The rules committee chairman is appointed by the head of the RNC (Reince) and contains 100 members: two delegates (one man, one woman) from each state delegation (suck it, territories!) who are appointed by their state party chair. During the first day of the convention they meet and produce a report on the rules, which can contain revisions on the rules of the Republican National Convention. If 25% of the members of the rules committee disagree with the report, they can produce their own minority report. The main report, and the minority report if it exists, are then voted for on the floor of the convention. This is typically done by a voice vote.
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MC Nietzche posted:I approach this from a different angle: I think the establishment would have to be loving pants-on-the-head crazy to not try it. Handing Trump the keys to the kingdom would be the end of the GOP, it would be complete anarchy. I disagree, mostly as the perception from the base is that they "listened to the voters" and didn't try to gently caress over Trump. I think if Reince and team bow out and let the system prop up Trump, they can take a back seat until he loses and slowly regain the ground they lost and can eventually say "look, we followed the rules, Trump was the candidate and he lost, it's time to move on". If they adjust the rules to gently caress over Trump and Cruz, I think that's where you'll see anarchy, especially among the base that's already upset at the "establishment".
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fade5 posted:Whatever their dumbass intent with this is, I'd laugh if the result ended up being "nobody gives a poo poo anymore, so thanks to the AFA for proving that unisex bathrooms are the way forward". Its weird that you think its good to allow a tiny population of male cross-dressers to decide this issue rather than the hundreds of millions of women who would rather not have Zeitgeist in the toilet with them. Very progressive thinking there.
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Montasque posted:https://twitter.com/politico/status/727187819362435073 Cruz: I have been engaging you respectfully the entire time, and a question that everyone here should ask... Protester: "Are you Canadian." Cruz: Do you want y-- Protester 2: Are you Canadian? Jewel Repetition fucked around with this message at 19:13 on May 2, 2016 |
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Louisgod posted:I disagree, mostly as the perception from the base is that they "listened to the voters" and didn't try to gently caress over Trump. I think if Reince and team bow out and let the system prop up Trump, they can take a back seat until he loses and slowly regain the ground they lost and can eventually say "look, we followed the rules, Trump was the candidate and he lost, it's time to move on". I think the long-term damage Trump would do to the GOP brand (specifically of the anti-Semitic variety) outweighs any benefit of letting him win and then lose with "dignity." Then again I may just be assuming Reince and co haven't been completely loving de-balled and actually have some stones. Either way if I get banned for my toxx it'll still have been worth the dream!
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Maoist Pussy posted:Its weird that you think its good to allow a tiny population of male cross-dressers to decide this issue rather than the hundreds of millions of women who would rather not have Zeitgeist in the toilet with them. Very progressive thinking there. The patriarchy wins again
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That's not what the GOP says: https://www.gop.com/convention-facts/?convention_type=rules quote:
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Jewel Repetition posted:Cruz: I have been engaging you respectfully the entire time, and a question that everyone here should ask... Those were some good hecklers.
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That guy definitely has the bantz, two quick-trigger burns perfectly inserted into Ted's long, unhuman pauses.
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Pick posted:We are going to find out that the RNC is the dream of a small autistic child. Pretty sure Fishmech isn't a Republican
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May 2, 2016 19:16
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Who does Ted Cruz think he is, George W. Bush?
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http://www.cbsnews.com/live/video/trump-voter-confronts-cruz-we-dont-want-you/ Its so perfect it almost seems scripted. Lyin' Ted!
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Helical Nightmares posted:Who flipped on the switch for weird nostalgic post mortems of Rubio all of a sudden? software lifecycle
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