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Wyatt Derp posted:Taris is also a gigantic pain in the rear end. You have to run around fallen crap for 10 minutes to get to a spot right next to you on the map. Especially because he'd spent the entire story up to that point avoiding a direct confrontation between the two of you, so it was fitting to me that he be denied the honor that he had refused at every opportunity.
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May 2, 2016 20:25
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Geniasis posted:Especially because he'd spent the entire story up to that point avoiding a direct confrontation between the two of you, so it was fitting to me that he be denied the honor that he had refused at every opportunity. And his flunkies killed a guy who just wanted him to take his lumps. Reading up on the rest of the BH Storyline I almost wish it was the climax of the story rather than A Jedi gets really mad at you and fake doxes you in revenge.
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May 2, 2016 20:29
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I let him out of his cell and then just shot him to death unarmed.
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May 2, 2016 20:39
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Shrimp or Shrimps posted:Oh, man, so I have worse in store for me? This really was a game designed for masochists. - paying to train every ability, including upgrades to every ability (training everything up to level 50 would set you back several hundred thousand credits, if I recall); - dealing with the absence of a costume designer, dyes, or even the simple ability to unify your outfit's colours (it was all too easy to end up looking like a kid's fashion ad from 1990 injected with a big dose of sci-fi and/or high fantasy, as dressed by the person in the picture here) - receiving planetary commendations (the precursor to common crystals) that you could only spend on items belonging to a single planet, meaning in practice that you could only afford to buy stuff by the time you were done with a planet and were almost always undergeared. Also, until update 4.0, companions only had one viable role (Treek excepted) and required their own full set of gear that you had to collect and then keep upgrading.
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May 2, 2016 21:06
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In many ways TOR was using old school, sometimes even pre-EQ design choices in a post WoW world. It hurt it a lot in the early going.
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May 2, 2016 22:25
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Trast posted:In many ways TOR was using old school, sometimes even pre-EQ design choices in a post WoW world. It hurt it a lot in the early going. I hate how you have to physically fly to a planet to get quests to advance, meaning you can't use teleports. Also I hate every time a questgiver goes "This holocall isn't secure, please come fly to where I am" because I know for a fact I'm going to have to fly to them, run to where they are on the planet, talk to them, teleport to my stronghold, back to my ship, fly to this other planet, kill like, one dude, back to the stronghold, back to the ship, back to the planet, then finally back to the guy. It gives me terror flashbacks of the linken questline in vanilla WoW.
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May 2, 2016 22:47
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There was no group finder at launch! I mean, I know that PUGs are the worst but still.
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May 2, 2016 23:47
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Medullah posted:For anyone who still has stories to see, there's double XP the next week starting tomorrow. If you're a former subscriber you can always click a referral link and get subscriber benefits for the next 7 days. This is great news. Now I can finally finish up the two jedi stories. I've been holding off on them till double xp came around again and they're the last two remaining for the Legendary status.
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May 3, 2016 00:07
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Sombrerotron posted:You have no idea how convenient and easy-going the game is nowadays compared to when it had just been launched. The Odyssean task of travelling the world of TOR has already been touched upon, but that's just the tip of the iceberg. Here's a few other examples of what players had to endure at the time: The story is literally the only reason this game didn't crash and burn and go offline by 2014
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May 3, 2016 00:31
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Fojar38 posted:The The goose that lays the golden eggs, even if the eggs happen to be covered in poo poo fans will still eat it up and go looking for more. Without the Star Wars license I guarantee Bioware doesn't get the capital to even start thinking about a MMO.
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May 3, 2016 02:14
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Sadly I believe that I might eat the poo poo covered egg
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May 3, 2016 02:26
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I'm the ultimate example of why the game was successful at launch despite lacking the basic QOL improvements that WoW had introduced. I played Everquest heavily back in the day, and when I finally shook my addiction I swore off MMORPGs for life. But I'm also a huge Star Wars nerd... So I got sucked into SWTOR and loved it. The lack of polish and QOL didn't mean much to me, I last played a game where you frequently had to wait an hour to go from one area to another. Hell, I did my first 6 levels or so killing K'lor'slugs on Korriban because I didn't know that you got XP by doing the story, I figured you had to grind your levels like in the old RPG days.
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May 3, 2016 02:40
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ChrisHansen posted:Sadly I believe that I might eat the poo poo covered egg Might even make it into an egg salad sandwich
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May 3, 2016 03:13
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i just started playing this a couple days ago using a free account, am I still gonna get the cool little astromech robot or is it for subscribers only? i was bummed to find out I got that stupid trandoshan lizard man companion instead of the T3-alike robot the other Jedis got. also this seems to have a ton of micro transactions for a subscription game.
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May 3, 2016 06:11
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Kly posted:i just started playing this a couple days ago using a free account, am I still gonna get the cool little astromech robot or is it for subscribers only? i was bummed to find out I got that stupid trandoshan lizard man companion instead of the T3-alike robot the other Jedis got. The Trandoshan is the first companion for the Jedi Consular class and T7 is the first companion for the Jedi Knight so you won't get T7 on your Consular in the base game (although he's a companion for everyone in the most recent expansion, Knights of the Fallen Empire). Don't worry too much about your companions, you'll get more as you go trough the story. The micro-transactions are pretty annoying as f2p but subscribing gives you basically all of the stuff you can buy as long as you're subbed (and you retain access to all released content including expansions that was available when your sub lapses). They really want you to subscribe and the system is set up to make that the path of least resistance.
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May 3, 2016 06:37
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Mercurius posted:The micro-transactions are pretty annoying as f2p but subscribing gives you basically all of the stuff you can buy as long as you're subbed oooh, i had the impression that you still had to buy a bunch of that stuff with those cartel coins or whatever
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May 3, 2016 08:36
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Kly posted:oooh, i had the impression that you still had to buy a bunch of that stuff with those cartel coins or whatever A lot of people here tend to only play if they're subbed and will cancel their subs if they aren't going to play.
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May 3, 2016 08:53
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Medullah posted:I'm the ultimate example of why the game was successful at launch despite lacking the basic QOL improvements that WoW had introduced. I played Everquest heavily back in the day, and when I finally shook my addiction I swore off MMORPGs for life. As I remember launch you got to do the story quests and still had to take care of trash all day in between.
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May 3, 2016 12:58
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Berke Negri posted:As I remember launch you got to do the story quests and still had to take care of trash all day in between. My Operative ran into a wall on Hoth where I could kill amost nothing. Because I was a sneaky mob-avoider, I had wound up under-leveled for the planet. 
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prefect posted:My Operative ran into a wall on Hoth where I could kill amost nothing. Because I was a sneaky mob-avoider, I had wound up under-leveled for the planet. I've been using my stealth characters for doing all the planet stories since they can get them done way faster. It keeps their levels up pretty well. Also the patch is ready for downloading
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May 3, 2016 13:59
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the paradigm shift posted:I've been using my stealth characters for doing all the planet stories since they can get them done way faster. It keeps their levels up pretty well. I use my stealth characters when I decide I want a bunch of alliance crates; they do the farming for everybody else. Sometimes I wish the achievement system had been in for launch -- I would have gotten all the "kill X enemies" things just from all the murdering as I did every quest I could find. 
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the paradigm shift posted:I've been using my stealth characters for doing all the planet stories since they can get them done way faster. It keeps their levels up pretty well. Yes, now, back in the day not only did you need more XP to level, "purple quests" gave less of it. Also flight points weren't automatically unlocked on planet fall, fast travel points didn't unlock on proximity (you still had to click on them), Sprint wasn't unlocked until level 15 or so, and speeder training was a 20-30-40 thing. Also speeder training cost a lot of money. TOR at launch was very much of the "We need to make everything take as long as possible to keep that sub money flowing" mindset.
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To be fair, the only endgame at launch was... Pretty much just starting an alt. At 50 EV and KP weren't in right away, were bugged when first added, so all you really had to do was Hard Mode flashpoints and PvP, along with dailies. Awww I just remembered the daily run to gear up a new level 50. Old Enemies and Freeing the Fallen on Belsavis to get your purple armoring and mod for the day, then off to Ilum for the enhancement. Repeat until fully geared.
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the paradigm shift posted:Also the patch is ready for downloading Oh, hell. How big is it? edit: 250MB, okay, I can afford that. SneezeOfTheDecade fucked around with this message at 15:31 on May 3, 2016 |
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Trying to decide if I should use the double XP to finish my Consular who is already over-leveled, or to get my other 3 Imps to 65.
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Colonial Air Force posted:Trying to decide if I should use the double XP to finish my Consular who is already over-leveled, or to get my other 3 Imps to 65. I'd use the time to level the lowest level toons you have that you want to see the story but aren't terribly interested in play style.
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Medullah posted:I'd use the time to level the lowest level toons you have that you want to see the story but aren't terribly interested in play style. There really aren't any of those, I like playing whatever. But yeah, it might be worth leveling up the other pubs. I already finished all the Imp stories, at least, so I get the title, and since we're not doing ops much right now, having a list of 65 to choose from to fit roles doesn't much matter.
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May 3, 2016 16:40
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Servers are up, I set invasion for Hoth. Easiest personal conquest, we most certainly won't come close to top 10 but easy way for you to get your personal goal.
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As per tradition, none of the new good stuff from the new hypercrate. However, this should buy another couple off the GTN in a few days.
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May 3, 2016 17:37
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Oooh also collections unlocks are on sale, 50% off.
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drat it, I don't have much free time to begin with; now I'm spending it all playing this game. Well, I guess my money has to go somewhere...
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May 3, 2016 17:53
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Hoth will be nice I've been working on my taun taun data.
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if you wanna spend money on other old Star Wars poo poo, everything's on sale on Steam today. $2.50 for the KOTOR games (each) if for whatever reason you still don't have 'em.
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Trast posted:Hoth will be nice I've been working on my taun taun data. Well keep in mind just because we're invading Hoth doesn't mean you'll actually DO ANYTHING there. No Heroics for points.
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Medullah posted:For anyone who still has stories to see, there's double XP the next week starting tomorrow. If you're a former subscriber you can always click a referral link and get subscriber benefits for the next 7 days. Thanks for this. Took a break after Chapter 10's bugs.
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Medullah posted:Well keep in mind just because we're invading Hoth doesn't mean you'll actually DO ANYTHING there. No Heroics for points. It's the thought that counts.
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OhFunny posted:Thanks for this. Took a break after Chapter 10's bugs. Don't worry, from what I've read there's all new bugs in this patch, including bolster in Warzones bolstering people in full expertise gear to 97,000 hp!
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So even though Vette uses an assault cannon during the mission she doesn't actually learn how to use assault cannons. That's kind of a dumb tease. Medullah posted:Don't worry, from what I've read there's all new bugs in this patch, including bolster in Warzones bolstering people in full expertise gear to 97,000 hp! And courting gifts still aren't fixed!
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Kurieg posted:So even though Vette uses an assault cannon during the mission she doesn't actually learn how to use assault cannons. Romancing characters will always be broke until you can romance M1-4X.
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