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RabidWeasel posted:In further "why would you make the game work that way" news: the 'physical' defense / absorption stats - not the ones for slash / pierce / blunt, but the first ones - are actually for a fourth damage type, which is "standard". Somehow I never noticed this until someone pointed it out and it also makes no sense what the gently caress is the difference between slashing someone with a straight sword (standard damage) or slashing them with a katana (slashing damage)? Want even more  ? Whips do slashing damage. 
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Spent 45,000 souls to level up and unlock the Wolf Knight's Greatsword and really all I learned is that I'm much better with a quick one hander.
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Soooooooooo I found the nameless king. Uhhh. Yeah. 21 Tries. Here, have some snippets and my ultimate victory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8fwaUEfagI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEa4q6wKEew https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwi_x5LoddI Realtalk: Honestly I found his first phase to be really easy. I almost always died in this fight during the first 10-15 seconds on the 2nd phase. Then I realized he's really weak to getting pounded on and staggered, which is how I beat him.
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May 2, 2016 20:17
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rotaryfun posted:Patches: If you've already beaten the deacons and gotten the firekeeper soul, patches will just appear in firelink in his vendor spot with no tricks after triggering Seig. At least that's what happened my run through
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May 2, 2016 20:18
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I was just sitting in work and I remembered that loving giant cat spider thing that attacks you in cathedral of the Deep and then again in Anor Londo. Seriously, gently caress that thing.
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^burtle posted:Spent 45,000 souls to level up and unlock the Wolf Knight's Greatsword and really all I learned is that I'm much better with a quick one hander. I use the Farron Greatsword with the dagger combo and on paper it sounds awesome. The move set is cool as hell. In practice it just means they look at you while you're flipping around and kill your rear end. It doesn't stagger enemies like AT ALL. Fuckin' sucks.
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Finally finished Aldritch so I could respec without loving up sirris' questline. Oh, you think this is regular Solaire?  Nope. This is DARK SOLAIRE (you can tell he's evil because of the goatee)  First invasion and he ran in a circle for 5 minutes trying to summon phantoms over and over before he blocked at the wrong time and I got a riposte on him 
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May 2, 2016 20:25
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Jastiger posted:I use the Farron Greatsword with the dagger combo and on paper it sounds awesome. The move set is cool as hell. It can be a beast in PVP or against swarms of lighter people, use the dagger stab for alot of the LB/L1 attacks to hit confirm.
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Sultan Tarquin posted:Finally finished Aldritch so I could respec without loving up sirris' questline. You can easily confirm this by talking to Leonhard who will still be hanging out by the throne pleading for you to start collecting tongues for Rosaria until you straight up offer one.
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Stormgale posted:It can be a beast in PVP or against swarms of lighter people, use the dagger stab for alot of the LB/L1 attacks to hit confirm. What is a hit confirm?
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May 2, 2016 20:35
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Ice Fist posted:Soooooooooo What are your stats and what twinblades are those? I can't tell at a glance but drat they outdamage my Gotthards by a good amount on the L1s.
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May 2, 2016 20:40
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^^ looks like the grave warden pair to me.Jastiger posted:What is a hit confirm? The dagger hits for all of the spinny moves do a tiny amount of damage but because poise isn't really a thing they can interrupt attacks, so you can use it to ensure you get off the spinny flashy part of the attack..
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Harrow posted:What are your stats and what twinblades are those? I can't tell at a glance but drat they outdamage my Gotthards by a good amount on the L1s. Sharp +9 Sellsword Twinblades with 40 dex. I stopped leveling up at level 85, and then reversed course and dumped another 10 levels into Vitality for fashion souls purposes. So I think I'm level 95 with 40 DEX, 18 STR, and the rest in Vigor and Endurance with whatever difference in Vitality. I could just go look but I'm super loving lazy right now sorry. Also, if it helps I'm using the Pontiff's Left Eye (the damage one), which helps alot on those long combos.
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^burtle posted:Spent 45,000 souls to level up and unlock the Wolf Knight's Greatsword and really all I learned is that I'm much better with a quick one hander. yeah I leveled up the wolf knight's greatsword to +4 but can't decide if it's any good for pvp in place of a faster straight sword or katana. looking for a good greatsword to level up for quality build but not sure which one to go with.
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Ice Fist posted:Sharp +9 Sellsword Twinblades with 40 dex. I stopped leveling up at level 85, and then reversed course and dumped another 10 levels into Vitality for fashion souls purposes. So I think I'm level 95 with 40 DEX, 18 STR, and the rest in Vigor and Endurance with whatever difference in Vitality. The +9 Sharp Gotthard Twinswords at the same stats definitely don't do that much on the L1s. Jeez, maybe I should try out the Sellsword Twinblades then. The Gotthards do have a sweet rolling L1 though.
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Internet Kraken posted:Is the shotel parry usable or is it complete garbage? It's usable but... I've tried it out for a large part of my first playthrough and missed a shitload of parries with it so i suspect its parry window is weird When I switched to target shield/buckler or parrying dagger, I did a lot better!!! But that also might just be because I learned the timings better so i dunno
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Harrow posted:The +9 Sharp Gotthard Twinswords at the same stats definitely don't do that much on the L1s. Jeez, maybe I should try out the Sellsword Twinblades then. The Gotthards do have a sweet rolling L1 though. I've had a ton of success using them against bosses. Other than bosses though I almost never use them. They don't stagger enemies very well, so I use them for shear DPS when a boss gives me an opening. Otherwise I have a +10 Wolf Curved Sword that I totally love for clearing levels, but it's too slow for most bosses. My results with them in PvP are mixed. They're loving disgusting if you manage to get in a nice combo, but they're not any faster than a straightsword or Katana so you can easily get into trading matches. Not only that but their roll and running attacks are pretty lack luster imo so they're not very good at helping you chase someone down. I have 2 slabs in my inventory but I'm refusing to +10 them until I get the Ghotthards and Twin Katanas or whatever and see how I like those.
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Ice Fist posted:I've had a ton of success using them against bosses. Other than bosses though I almost never use them. They don't stagger enemies very well, so I use them for shear DPS when a boss gives me an opening. Otherwise I have a +10 Wolf Curved Sword that I totally love for clearing levels, but it's too slow for most bosses. I really do love the Gotthard Twinswords, they're a ton of fun. The second hit of the L1 combo is pretty slow, but it combos well into R1 and L2. And the rolling L1 is so fast, powerful, and far-reaching that it honestly feels like cheating. Real good weapon.
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What on earth is going on with all of untended graves? Alternate reality?
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Stormgale posted:^^ looks like the grave warden pair to me. AH I see. Yeah I've used it on like Lothric Knights and just wreck them with the dodge behind em, but then they just laugh at my attempts to out style them and just crush my face. I have better luck with boring estoc and boring shield than with the cool as hell ninja great sword and it makes me sad.
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mastershakeman posted:What on earth is going on with all of untended graves? Alternate reality? My guess is that it's the present version of firelink that the princes never went and linked the fire in, so poo poo started to go dark. The firelink used as a hub is the weird rear end alternate reality dream world made by ludleth
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mastershakeman posted:What on earth is going on with all of untended graves? Alternate reality? Most likely time travel. It's some weird poo poo. I don't know if you've beaten the boss there yet so I'll make this a separate spoiler: Champion Gundyr is Iudex Gundyr, the first boss. When you find him impaled on the coiled sword, it's because he was defeated in the past by an unknown warrior: you. Or at least, that's what Gundyr's soul hints at. What's interesting is that the Shrine Handmaid that you buy items from is there and has some very interesting things to say. And if you find the Eyes of a Fire Keeper there, you can give them to the Fire Keeper in your Shrine and also talk to Ludleth for some pretty fascinating lore about what a world without fire would look like. I've seen other theories that suggest it's an alternate reality, or a Ludleth's shrine, or any number of other things, but I'm going with it being the same shrine in the far past going by Champion Gundyr's soul's description. Spanish Manlove posted:My guess is that it's the present version of firelink that the princes never went and linked the fire in, so poo poo started to go dark. The firelink used as a hub is the weird rear end alternate reality dream world made by ludleth Yeah, it could be that the Champion Gundyr you fight in Untended Graves is an alternate version of Iudex Gundyr and not literally the same one, you're just mirroring what happened to Iudex Gundyr. It's all fascinating stuff though.
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Spanish Manlove posted:My guess is that it's the present version of firelink that the princes never went and linked the fire in, so poo poo started to go dark. The firelink used as a hub is the weird rear end alternate reality dream world made by ludleth when does it say ludleth made firelink 2
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mastershakeman posted:What on earth is going on with all of untended graves? Alternate reality? it's whatever you want it to mean. if you play through the entire game up to that point without ever talking to your old lady vendor in your firelink before you talk to her there, then you talk to her there first, then go back to your firelink and talk to her, she "remembers" you. that, plus gundyr, leaves a lot of people to think that it's the past and there's time travel shenanigans going on. personally I think it's just an alternate reality that exists to show you what happens when there is no hero to save the day. to me, "firelink" is a concept that exists outside of any actual physical location (meaning that it is literally a pocket space that links all of the bonfires, hence fire-link) and the untended graves is just a cast-off portion of a dead world that is a cautionary tale for the player. it gives you reason to try and link the fire, and not to explore the hollow lord ending. I also think it's literally the end of the Dark Souls 1 world, based on the details of the location that you uncover, but that's complete personal speculation.
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Man, the NK keeps kicking my rear end. Or rather, the camera in the first part of the fight. Most of the time I keep turning around just to eat his lance or another attack in the face, or a fire breath which I can't escape from. I can barely get to the second phase and don't really have time to learn his moves until he pummels me. Hardest fight of the game by far.
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Malcolm XML posted:when does it say ludleth made firelink 2 It's hinted because he "willed" himself to be a lord. Either way, the hub firelink takes place after the dark firelink, because of [spoiler] Iudex and also the handmaiden having a different dialogue if you never talk to her before going to the dark firelink and speaking to her there then going back and speaking to her in the hub[/spoiler.
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Am I a weeaboo scrub for enjoying the dual katanas in PvP? 
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One interesting thing is that you find Andre's blacksmith hammer in the dark Firelink, even though he's using it in your Firelink. Some people have taken that to mean that your Firelink has a "fake" Andre and the real one is long dead. That, and the pile of Fire Keeper corpses really suggests something very strange is going on in the player's version of Firelink Shrine.
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Fuzz posted:Am I a weeaboo scrub for enjoying the dual katanas in PvP? No, youre a turtle.
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Shoenin posted:No, youre a turtle. poo poo, now I need that shell armor...
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Harrow posted:One interesting thing is that you find Andre's blacksmith hammer in the dark Firelink, even though he's using it in your Firelink. Some people have taken that to mean that your Firelink has a "fake" Andre and the real one is long dead. That, and the pile of Fire Keeper corpses really suggests something very strange is going on in the player's version of Firelink Shrine. I really do wonder what's with the pile of them at the bottom of the tower and the dead one on top of the tower.
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Harrow posted:One interesting thing is that you find Andre's blacksmith hammer in the dark Firelink, even though he's using it in your Firelink. Some people have taken that to mean that your Firelink has a "fake" Andre and the real one is long dead. That, and the pile of Fire Keeper corpses really suggests something very strange is going on in the player's version of Firelink Shrine. Couldn't he have just woken up and said "oh that's where I left my hammer time to get to work!"
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I don't know if this has been posted before but this video gives some interesting light on Untended Graves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5mHuSFRzZM
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Another thing that I think primed people for the "fake Firelink" theory is the Hunter's Dream in Bloodborne. Separating the rest of this out for Bloodborne spoilers, in case anyone hasn't but wants to play it: It's your hub, explicitly separate from the rest of the world and existing in a literal dream, and if you explore for a while, you can find the real location it was based on in the physical world. It's all very creepy, including an actual, non-living doll the same as the living doll who levels you up in the Hunter's Dream. It makes a certain amount of sense here, because Gehrman and the Moon Presence created a dream version of the Hunter's Workshop to serve as a base of operations for Hunters in Yharnam, which naturally explains why the doll is alive in the Hunter's Dream. It's a wonderfully creepy reveal and I think it's natural to make the same conclusion when you get to Untended Graves. Regy Rusty posted:Couldn't he have just woken up and said "oh that's where I left my hammer time to get to work!" That's what I think--I'm on the "time travel" instead of "alternate universe" or "that's the real Firelink" side of things--though it does lead to a ~*~time paradox~*~ if you pick it up in the past but he still has it in the present, so who knows. One interesting thing is that if you get the Covetous Silver Serpent Ring in the main Firelink, it isn't in the Untended Graves, and vice-versa, suggesting that maybe it's the same ring and therefore the same place at different times.
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Or maybe he has more than one hammer.
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One thing that interests me also lore-wise is that the final boss suggests dozens if not hundreds of people have linked the fire before, but only these five lords of cinder are needed to restart the fire. I wonder what it is specifically about these five that makes them special
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Spanish Manlove posted:I really do wonder what's with the pile of them at the bottom of the tower and the dead one on top of the tower. If you kill the fire keeper, she'll be alive again next time you visit Firelink shrine. Where do you think the old one went?
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Mel Mudkiper posted:One thing that interests me also lore-wise is that the final boss suggests dozens if not hundreds of people have linked the fire before, but only these five lords of cinder are needed to restart the fire. I don't think they're special at all, it simply takes a lot of soul power to do the linking and those guys have the most when you come around. A lot of the fluff around the linking and power amassing is ritualistic and not fundamental to the linking of the fire, which is why it changes every cycle.
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