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Thisuck posted:What do you guys think of using a restricted list for Modern and maybe legacy? I mean, the problematic thing would be if Big Jace becomes restricted, everyone will be splashing blue so they can cast him? If you restrict cards like JtMS, then the game becomes more luck-based. You can't build your deck to get them with any consistency, so too much of the game comes down to who's lucky enough to draw their singleton broken card. A restriction only makes sense if you have a card that's only broken when interacting with other copies of itself. Imagine that pros discovered Squadron Hawk is secretly insanely overpowered because of certain ways to exploit its +3 raw card advantage value. You could ban Squadron Hawk, but it would also be reasonable to restrict it to 1 or even 2 ("semi-restricted") copies per deck. At that point it would no longer be broken, since it would give +0 or +1 card advantage instead of +3. Obviously Squadron Hawk isn't powerful enough to need a ban/restriction, but you get the idea.
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It also works in vintage, a format where there's enough ridiculously powerful stuff that restricted cards are a deck building cost instead of auto-include. Every blue deck (and some non-blue) would play 1-of jtms and start having a bunch of games that "end" on t4.
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May 2, 2016 21:11
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Sickening posted:I would assume fnm's that do this have top heavy payouts and not the pack per win thing. Yeah it's this. I'd much rather have higher payouts for fewer people, it makes the tournament feel more worth it for winning.
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May 2, 2016 21:16
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Our store does FNM MTGO style. 4 rounds, 3/0 gets 9 packs, 4/0 gets 18. It saves us from playing in 5 or 6 rounds and being there until midnight or later. It's pretty great as long as everyone is willing to scoop if they're losing in the event of a tie.
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May 2, 2016 21:21
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Paul Cheon was streaming with what I believe was this 75 just now, looked good.
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May 2, 2016 21:23
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My store does actually the worst prize support for FMN. They charge 6 bucks to play FNM and everyone gets 1 pack and then 2 bucks goes in the prize pool per person. It's awful. You end up playing for virtually nothing.
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May 2, 2016 21:24
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mcmagic posted:Ban Chord. Unban Green Sun's Zenith 
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BizarroAzrael posted:Paul Cheon was streaming with what I believe was this 75 just now, looked good. how did that kid do btw, i missed out on Day 2 cause of work
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Entropic posted:Unban Green Sun's Zenith I would take this trade immediately. But honestly I'd rather have both. Count Bleck fucked around with this message at 21:44 on May 2, 2016 |
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Lottery of Babylon posted:If you restrict cards like JtMS, then the game becomes more luck-based. You can't build your deck to get them with any consistency, so too much of the game comes down to who's lucky enough to draw their singleton broken card. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Blaze_Fenix,_the_Burning_Bombardment_Bird Since this card acts as a material to help make another copy of itself there were OTKs involving summoning three of these in one turn, limiting it fixes that problem. I guess the main question is what is lost by just banning these cards instead of restricting them though. The card would have to be very important to the format for it to be worth it. Irony Be My Shield fucked around with this message at 21:40 on May 2, 2016 |
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BizarroAzrael posted:Paul Cheon was streaming with what I believe was this 75 just now, looked good. Eh, he changed it up a bit or at least did when I was watching. He won his league with a more up to date b/w control list. That list from the GP is just weird. I feel like its matchup against bant is great but its matchup against g/b aristocrats is pretty bad outside of the one cleetus. It seems like the tokens matchup could be pretty medium.
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Sickening posted:Eh, he changed it up a bit or at least did when I was watching. He won his league with a more up to date b/w control list. I just turned it on to see him win the last game and caught a quick look at what I thought was that list (1 Sorin, 2 Gideon, 2 Ob Nix, 2 Declaration , 4 Secure the Wastes) Do you know what he changed?
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mcmagic posted:My store does actually the worst prize support for FMN. They charge 6 bucks to play FNM and everyone gets 1 pack and then 2 bucks goes in the prize pool per person. It's awful. You end up playing for virtually nothing. Mine does $5 entry with I think 1.5 packs per person into the pool, and the pool gets distributed among all the 3-X-X or better, with a a couple of random rolls for 2 packs that can go to anyone who didn't already prize. You can take $4/pack store credit instead of packs. But they have a separate "Ferocious" prize pool (they started doing this around with FRF came out) that's $5 to pay into and gets distributed only among those who paid into it in a very top-heavy fashion. I think it's if there's less than 5 people in the pool it all goes to the top person, 5-8 it's 70-30 between the top 2. That way the super competitive players can have their top-heavy prizing without the casual players getting nothing.
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mcmagic posted:My store does actually the worst prize support for FMN. They charge 6 bucks to play FNM and everyone gets 1 pack and then 2 bucks goes in the prize pool per person. It's awful. You end up playing for virtually nothing. The store I'm at does the same thing, except $5. Everyone gets 1 pack, top 8 get 2 packs, 1-3 split the remaining amount in store credit. They removed the round cap so we usually end up playing 5 rounds with no cut. It is miserable. I'm only playing there at this point because my friends play there. Nothing like winning out and getting $10 + 2 packs. Prior to this it was capped at 4 rounds and paid out based on record with 4-0 getting 10 packs, 3-0-1 getting 6, 3-0 getting 4, and everyone else getting 1 pack.
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Sickening posted:Its still a really popular format. Locally, we are starting to get back to pre-pro tour oath of the gatewatch numbers. Of course not having a modern PT might have some effect, but have GP's, opens, and local events is enough for people. It might even be better since WOTC won't need to "shake" anything up, since they don't know how to do this correctly. I'm not disputing the popularity (although I know anecdotally Eldrazi actually brought a bunch of dudes out around here to play modern), I'm saying more in terms of innovation and seeing new decks. I mean even stuff like the SCG Opens and whatnot don't seem to drive the diverse deck evolution that the pro tours do, so I'm worried with it no longer being a PT format, you'll just see people playing the same decks, forever. Not saying there was tons of stuff before that came out new, but stuff like lantern control and grishoalbrand seemed to at least be new lines for deckbuilding from the last couple of years (not to mention eldrazi which is pretty much dead as a deck now).
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Sickening posted:Eh, he changed it up a bit or at least did when I was watching. He won his league with a more up to date b/w control list. He's now playing a fairly poor looking Grixis deck. Against Tom Martel in the 0-2 bracket. Jake Cheon is the MVP right now.
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May 2, 2016 22:44
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Considering where they're at now I think it's really funny that lsv was once best known for being a member of Cheontourage.
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I broke out some of my old Tempest basics recently and started using them in all my decks. I've never had so many "wow, those are cool! What set are they from? Are they for trade?" comments in all my time playing the game. Full art is so yesterday now. Vintage lands are the future.
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Xaerael posted:I broke out some of my old Tempest basics recently and started using them in all my decks. I've never had so many "wow, those are cool! What set are they from? Are they for trade?" comments in all my time playing the game. Since when is tempest vintage?
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Xaerael posted:I broke out some of my old Tempest basics recently and started using them in all my decks. I've never had so many "wow, those are cool! What set are they from? Are they for trade?" comments in all my time playing the game. To be fair, Tempest islands are some of the best looking islands ever printed.
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Sickening posted:Since when is tempest vintage? It did come out almost 20 years ago.
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Some Numbers posted:It did come out almost 20 years ago. I suddenly feel old... and nerdy.
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Xaerael posted:I broke out some of my old Tempest basics recently and started using them in all my decks. I've never had so many "wow, those are cool! What set are they from? Are they for trade?" comments in all my time playing the game.
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Thisuck posted:To be fair, Tempest mountains are some of the best looking mountains ever printed. Just gonna co-opt this post here, thanks. That's another little thing I miss about no more core sets- far fewer chances to see favorite land arts re-appear. Also I still need to track down a foil stack of Urza's Saga Plains or the closest non-Duel Decks approximation I can find.
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I'm a freak who loves lands with the old angled T symbol on them. Don't know what it is, but I love those drat things.
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Whenever I build a mono-red deck I sleeve up these:
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Euro and APAC lands are undoubtedly the best lands because you get to tell stories about your trips to those places while you use them.
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The correct choice for any sort of mono R deck is the ugliest white bordered mountains you can find. Preferably mismatched.
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Static Equilibrium posted:The correct choice for any sort of mono R deck is the ugliest white bordered mountains you can find. Preferably mismatched. I did that once during THeros standard when the the sub-$20 mon-red aggro deck was briefly really good, and I didn't use sleeves. Schoolyard style! :smugdragon:
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Riffle shuffling unsleeved cards without a playmat really tilts some people on a visceral level even if they know there's no card in your deck worth more than $3 and even those cards aren't going to hold value when they rotate.
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Entropic posted:Riffle shuffling unsleeved cards without a playmat really tilts some people on a visceral level even if they know there's no card in your deck worth more than $3 and even those cards aren't going to hold value when they rotate. Riffle shuffling sleeve cards looks painful  On that note, if a person is trying to riffle shuffle my deck, and I don't want them to do that, but they don't want to cooperate, am I able to call a judge for this?
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Entropic posted:Whenever I build a mono-red deck I sleeve up these: 
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Thisuck posted:Riffle shuffling sleeve cards looks painful Yeah, you can request someone to not riffle shuffle. I've also never seen anyone riffle someone else's deck, but there's always going to be someone who tries.
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Yawgmoth posted:All of the lands I use are either mirage or ice age, although there is a specific swamp from portal I'd love to get 15-20 of. Fire me a PM with the Portal Swamp. I bought up a huge collection that had a bunch of Portal lands in, and I'm likely to just dump the lot on my LGSs for drafting/sealed stock. If I have them, they're yours.
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Yawgmoth posted:A good mountain, but my choice will always be: The new go to Mountain is now the vaginaland. 
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keeblerdrow posted:The new go to Mountain is now the vaginaland. Goes with Pen Island. 
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keeblerdrow posted:The new go to Mountain is now the vaginaland.
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Jonked posted:Jesus Christ why does it have a clitoris? How else do you lube up the outer gates?
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Lawnie posted:I'm a freak who loves lands with the old angled T symbol on them. Don't know what it is, but I love those drat things. I love that sideways T tap symbol. I always sleeve up matching unlimited or revised basics. They just look so good.
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Jonked posted:Jesus Christ why does it have a clitoris? The city of Ghirapur is a living thing.
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