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BCR posted:It's in the United States, Vietnams, Phillipines, Japanese, Indonesian, etc's self interest that China doesn't claim all the islands and build missile bases Yeah, but it's still going to happen. They simply can't stop them. And long-term Australia has to be careful about which side of the argument it wants to be on. It doesn't matter how we characterize their actions, they're still going to act. Unless you really want an Asian war, cos they really don't give a poo poo what we think. quote:Well long term if you want us to become more integrated in Asia, that would mean supporting in words and deeds our Asian neighbours against China. No, long term, you want to still be talking to China. It might seem prudent in the short to medium term to oppose their interests, but its not the end game. That's the brutal truth. Look, the US has pretty much done a similar thing worldwide in the last century but it doesn't have China's patience or its resolve. They won't stick around, and I'm betting that a few of our neighbours will at some point accommodate the Chinese just to be on the "right" side themselves. Best you can hope for is internal collapse like Russia, but that's Armageddon for everyone too.
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It's OK, this is as good as it gets for BS. His numbers will ebb once ScoMo does a job tonight.
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ScoMoJo(e) Australian Politics is weird, I was drat sure Turnbull wasn't going to be Abbotts replacement yet here we are.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:It's real. The reason it's not indexed is that politicians prefer to have the option of giving tax cuts every few years or of raising more money without it being obvious.  quote:Scientific surveys of Iraqi deaths resulting from the first four years of the Iraq War found that between 151,000 to over one million Iraqis died as a result of conflict during this time. A later study, published in 2011, found that approximately 500,000 Iraqis had died as a result of the conflict since the invasion. If D. Trump gets in we should seriously consider ripping up ANZUS.
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Negligent posted:It's OK, this is as good as it gets for BS. His numbers will ebb once ScoMo does a job tonight. It's lovely to see that we're rapidly moving through the denial stage. The reality is that Turnbull has the Rudd problem. High expectations combined with the "oh, he's not what we thought"
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May 3, 2016 06:32
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As well as much of Turnbull's personal popularity vis-a-vis Abbott being sourced from younger voters. The same class of voters he is alienating every time he professes his undying love for negative gearing.
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I don't think polling this far out is anything to worry about, and historically the predictive value of polls has been directly proportional to how close to election day they were done Hardly denial
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Anidav posted:I wonder if all those PUP voters will evaporate back to the ALP. PUP vote seems like people hated the ALP due to leadership scandals but hated Abbott too. ALP has fixed itself up and now the Coalition is stuck with Tone Era policy skeletons. I think Xenophon would probably get the bulk of Palmer's voters, with the ALP and Greens picking up the rest.
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Negligent posted:Essential asked "for future purchases investors can only claim tax deductions for investments in newly built homes" A majority thinks it'll help housing affordability? Sounds good.
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May 3, 2016 06:41
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Negligent posted:Essential asked "for future purchases investors can only claim tax deductions for investments in newly built homes" 26 neither know, approve or disapprove? That seems like it could only be a good thing for the ALP.
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Pup got 5.5% of the vote, most of that was Labor protest voters putting 1 palmer, but they came back on preferences to put Labor bums on seats, esp in the Worst State
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May 3, 2016 06:56
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One item, a packet of cigarettes, they were more than $3.25bn out and put it down to a rounding error. But for the Labor party, it is not a rounding error, it is a complete and utter cock-up on your capacity to have oversight over the affairs of the nation. What an absolute load of rubbish. Their economic policy is a load of rubbish.
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May 3, 2016 07:04
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Labor and Libs voting together bet EvilElmo's got a great justification for this one
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Recoome posted:Labor and Libs voting together greens didn't, ergo it's good
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Caaaaaaaarrrp
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Negligent posted:Caaaaaaaarrrp
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Negligent posted:Caaaaaaaarrrp
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Negligent posted:Caaaaaaaarrrp
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I have no mouth and I must carrrrrrp 
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May 3, 2016 07:23
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As soon as there are more people locked out of the housing market due to greedy fucks negatively gearing en masse, than negative gearers, it will become an election issue. It will happen eventually.
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First Dog on the Moon: Well gently caress. That was depressing. Have some kittens: 
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Pickled Tink posted:First Carp on the Moon
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First Carrrpp on the moon
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You had one job Dutton One Job
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Can't stop the boats can they stop the carp
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Video footage of Masoumali at Nauru hospital shows him clearly conscious as he paces up and down while screaming – with severe burns apparent to his arms, legs, chest and back – while distressed friends plead for him to be given assistance. A second clip shows doctors and nurses struggling to administer painkillers, as Masoumali, still standing, continues to scream. People watching nearby are vomiting.
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Negligent posted:
Don't worry we have boat herpes now- CARRRRPP
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katlington posted:Video footage of Barnaby at CARRRPP hospital shows him clearly conscious as he paces up and down while screaming – with severe CARRPP apparent to his arms, legs, chest and back – while distressed friends plead for him to be given herpes.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJMdCbT0mE4 First Online Ad of the election
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May 3, 2016 07:50
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And it's not even cropped properly.
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May 3, 2016 07:50
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Anidav posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJMdCbT0mE4 Kevin Mcloud creative commons track. No expense spared. edit. seeing as you asked, Kevin McCloud writes a tonne of music that is under creative commons. This means anyone can use it for any reason without having to pay any royalties to the author.
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It was not a very good ad
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May 3, 2016 07:57
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Actually, it's called The Complex, and I know this because it is on his website under the "most popular downloads" section, because Labor is original and modern.
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Boats haven't stopped, bring back Toned Abs
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I wonder when political parties will actually spend decent money on online advertising outside of banner ads on News.com.au? ...and Astroturfing
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