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CLAM DOWN posted:To change the subject a bit to BC politics: Nothing of value would be lost if somebody actually firebombed the legislature at this point, seriously. Well, except the awesome architecture I guess. Pity the hardest part would be finding one of the 16 days a year they bother to show up for work. Hopefully when the economy finally tanks here they drag them out screaming and do the job right.
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Starsfan posted:I was wondering how that works... property values are way down lately, does that gently caress people over on the return they well get from insurance, or is the property insured for what you paid for it? I've never owned a house so I don't know the finer points of this dynamic. The insurance company says the wild fire is an Act of God and you get nothing. Thanks for playing.
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Cultural Imperial posted:Just in case any of you have forgotten what horrible loving pieces of poo poo albertans are, let me post some choice cbc comments Mostly, yes, but assholes like Leo DiCaprio and Neil Young can go gently caress themselves running. No one should pay attention to them, because it acclimatizes people to the idea that they should uncritically accept what celebrities say. Where their rantings happen to agree with reality, let a scientist or an expert in the field in question convey the same message instead.
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Rime posted:Nothing of value would be lost if somebody actually firebombed the legislature at this point, seriously. Well, except the awesome architecture I guess. Pity the hardest part would be finding one of the 16 days a year they bother to show up for work. save your outrage. clark only cares about rural voters and she knows they don't give a gently caress because they're dumb
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PT6A posted:Mostly, yes, but assholes like Leo DiCaprio and Neil Young can go gently caress themselves running. No one should pay attention to them, because it acclimatizes people to the idea that they should uncritically accept what celebrities say. Where their rantings happen to agree with reality, let a scientist or an expert in the field in question convey the same message instead. that's some deep thinking there, wise mcgill graduate
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May 4, 2016 05:30
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DiCaprio was the genius who thought that Chinook winds were proof of global warming.
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lol Brian Pallisters Minister who handles Francophone affairs doesn't speak french http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/english-speaking-rochelle-squires-francophone-affairs-1.3565449
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Winter coats inbound to ft. mcmurray. https://twitter.com/CBCEdmonton/status/727716867285078016
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If you're going to listen to celebrities about global warming, you should also listen to them about the myriad dangers of vaccination and the benefits of kabbalah or whatever that poo poo is. Celebrities can be right from time to time, but under no circumstances should they be considered authorities on random poo poo, because they can also be incredibly wrong. DariusLikewise posted:lol Brian Pallisters Minister who handles Francophone affairs doesn't speak french He's leading by example: the solution to all Francophone problems is for everyone to learn to speak English 
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Ikantski posted:Winter coats inbound to ft. mcmurray. Fort mac will be gone in 2 days at this rate
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CLAM DOWN posted:Fort mac will be gone in 2 days at this rate Well, that's basically the south half of the city right there (along with the trailer park which burned earlier). The only thing separating Abasand from downtown is the highway.
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CLAM DOWN posted:Fort mac will be gone in 2 days at this rate Supposed to be rain tomorrow night but it's going to be gone tomorrow morning. https://twitter.com/portiaclarkcbc/status/727715272233201665 Army'll be able to help setup a nice photo-op for mr. just hang in there alberta.
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May 4, 2016 05:52
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Brian Jean has apparently told reporters that the Fort Mac hospital is on fire, and that the fire has moved into downtown. Jesus.
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What exactly would they expect the army to do this very instant? They aren't firefighters. Logistical support, food, water, workers sure, but other than that...?
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Ikantski posted:http://twitter.com/gmbutts/status/701966348218408960 Hey lets remember this article which gave us the best bit of info: For example, only 33 per cent of people living in the Fort-McMurray—Cold-Lake riding in Alberta believe climate change is partly or mostly caused by humans.
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flakeloaf posted:What exactly do they expect the army to do? They aren't firefighters. Logistical support, food, water, workers sure, but other than that...? They're labourers who can be told to do dangerous and physically demanding things under the direction of people who have some idea what to do. They don't really need to be trained firefighters to help out.
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What do they expect anyone to do at this point? You can't fight wildfiresPT6A posted:If you're going to listen to celebrities about global warming, you should also listen to them about the myriad dangers of vaccination and the benefits of kabbalah or whatever that poo poo is. Well I agree with the setiment, celebrities hold a lot of influence over people that look up to them and if they want to be in favour of poo poo that actually helps the earth then I'm all for it.
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Ikantski posted:Winter coats inbound to ft. mcmurray. flakeloaf posted:What exactly would they expect the army to do this very instant? They aren't firefighters. Logistical support, food, water, workers sure, but other than that...? I'm remembering back when all you chucklefucks claimed we couldn't just abolish our worthless warhawking military because "what if there's a natural disaster!!!1111". 
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That's logistical support. That comes after the part where everyone gets the hell away from the fire.
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DariusLikewise posted:What do they expect anyone to do at this point? You can't fight wildfires Absolutely right, which is why we shouldn't bother funding wildfire prevention 
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flakeloaf posted:What exactly would they expect the army to do this very instant? They aren't firefighters. Logistical support, food, water, workers sure, but other than that...? PT6A posted:They're labourers who can be told to do dangerous and physically demanding things under the direction of people who have some idea what to do. They don't really need to be trained firefighters to help out. They were in Sask during last year's bout of firestorms helping out too: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/saskatchewan-wildfires-canadian-soldiers-take-crash-course-in-firefighting-1.3141315
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flakeloaf posted:What exactly would they expect the army to do this very instant? They aren't firefighters. Logistical support, food, water, workers sure, but other than that...? the cf can throw their corpulent bodies at the flames to keep them from burning equity building real estate
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DariusLikewise posted:What do they expect anyone to do at this point? You can't fight wildfires Yeah, but then you have fuckos like DiCaprio that are rightly made fun of for saying the dumbest poo poo imaginable, and it turns into a talking point to discredit the movement in general. DiCaprio is a knuckle-dragging retard who doesn't understand chinook winds, and climate change is a real thing. However, giving climate change deniers an easy route to attack you, when you claim to be a representative of the movement in general, is unquestionably harmful and bad. EDIT: And that's before you even get into the celebrities who are supporting complete nonsense without any basis in fact at all. If you're happy to see people follow Leo on climate change, just realize that you're implicitly supporting people following Jenny McCarthy on anti-vaccination and that sort of poo poo. PT6A fucked around with this message at 06:03 on May 4, 2016 |
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klockwerk posted:They were in Sask during last year's bout of firestorms helping out too: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/saskatchewan-wildfires-canadian-soldiers-take-crash-course-in-firefighting-1.3141315 Okay that's kinda cool.
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Cultural Imperial posted:the cf can throw their corpulent bodies at the flames to keep them from burning equity building real estate Nah, fat burns hot. A big guy can literally destroy a cremation machine if you're not careful.
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Brannock posted:Absolutely right, which is why we shouldn't bother funding wildfire prevention There's some pretty good arguments that fighting them is actually counterproductive. Better just to let them burn so the deadfall doesn't accumulate.
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Drunk Canuck posted:Hey lets remember this article which gave us the best bit of info: For example, only 33 per cent of people living in the Fort-McMurray—Cold-Lake riding in Alberta believe climate change is partly or mostly caused by humans. Did nobody else think that Butts was making an arrogant little joke about 61% of people voting against Liberals last election?
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PittTheElder posted:There's some pretty good arguments that fighting them is actually counterproductive. Better just to let them burn so the deadfall doesn't accumulate. I believe controlled burns are part of firefighting measures now, although I could be wrong (and it could vary from province to province).
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Drunk Canuck posted:For example, only 33 per cent of people living in the Fort-McMurray—Cold-Lake riding in Alberta believe climate change is partly or mostly caused by humans. Yeah. It's such schadenfreude that the Canadian capital of climate change denial is now burning down by wildfire, but I still feel bad for them. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
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Deadfall is so bad in a lot of areas that if you let a lot of these areas just burn naturally it'd destroy entire towns, kinda like what's happening now. It's too big to fail. EDIT: if anyone wants to see what they're up against (with a 24h delay) you can download fire data straight from NASA. https://earthdata.nasa.gov/earth-observation-data/near-real-time/firms/active-fire-data Fire's on both sides of the river as of when the last VIIRS data was collected so ya it's conceivable that literally the entire town will be gone by morning. EvilJoven fucked around with this message at 06:20 on May 4, 2016 |
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If Brian Jean is correct and the fire is already in downtown Fort McMurray (and the hospital is more or less dead center in the middle of downtown) then there's nothing they can do to stop the real damage from happening. North of the river you have a sea of houses, the lower townsite is where all the essential services are. The city went on a big kick a couple years back of centralizing all government services downtown.
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less than three posted:Yeah. It's such schadenfreude that the Canadian capital of climate change denial is now burning down by wildfire, but I still feel bad for them. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I know. My feelings about this situation mirror how I felt when Rob Ford died. I empathize with those who are suffering... but the science has been pretty conclusive for a while now that climate change would affect fire seasons, especially in the north.
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Brian Jean lied. The hospital isn't damaged by the fire. Yet.
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THC posted:Actually it's Notley's fault for cutting the wildfire budget. loving socialism strikes again. The cuts won't go in effect until August, and even then it's only for full time pay; any emergencies come up will be funded. Before the budget, firefighters were paid full time up until September.
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Jordan7hm posted:a lot of really lovely people posting itt ... so it's a day that end in -ay?
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Sovy Kurosei posted:Brian Jean lied. The hospital isn't damaged by the fire. Yet. MPs knew
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Jesus, there's a city burning down, 80,000 people are out of their homes, and it might be a day or two before its all under control ... and many of you can't seem to hold back your glee long enough to stop scoring political points and act concerned. Metaposting, I know, but this is a disgrace.
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David Corbett posted:Jesus, there's a city burning down, 80,000 people are out of their homes, and it might be a day or two before its all under control ... and many of you can't seem to hold back your glee long enough to stop scoring political points and act concerned. Metaposting, I know, but this is a disgrace. Posting on this forum won't make the fires burn any less hot. Hell, even if the people of Ft. McMurray had woken up one day and decided to start a people's revolution to overthrow the shackles of big oil and have a giant solar farm love-in, their town would still be burning down because climate change is an aggregate sort of thing. I suppose it's not so much glee as it is a kind of resignation that this type of thing was predicted to be inevitable and unstoppable long ago. If not Fort Mac, then High River, or Kelowna, or Prince George. This won't be the last human settlement that will face an increased threat from wildfires due to climate change. But, as one of the first to experience the type of devastation we can expect to occur with increasing frequency during the 21st century, there is a certain bit of morbid irony about it.
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Nah gently caress you too. These people are all greedy fucks and are complicit in electing the worst loving politicians all out of their own self interest. If we have to endure the bullshit perpetrated by a bunch of trucknutting retards in Alberta I'm sure as gently caress going to milk every ounce of pleasure i get in seeing these ungrateful fucks suffer (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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David Corbett posted:Jesus, there's a city burning down, 80,000 people are out of their homes, and it might be a day or two before its all under control ... and many of you can't seem to hold back your glee long enough to stop scoring political points and act concerned. Metaposting, I know, but this is a disgrace. gosh
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