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When I worked at Fry's for 2 months and got paid $8.50/hr we had to wear button down shirts, slacks and ties. 
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May 3, 2016 20:12
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H110Hawk posted:This is a great way to ruin a tie. If you wear it often/daily it's largely fine. Ruin how exactly? Permanently crease the fabric that's under the knot and no one will ever see?
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May 3, 2016 20:15
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Four in hand, because I'm not a fat 50-year-old stockbroker.
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May 3, 2016 20:30
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RFC2324 posted:Not really?
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May 3, 2016 20:33
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How to look like a massive tool in 17 complicated steps.
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May 3, 2016 20:51
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stubblyhead posted:How to look like a massive tool in 17 complicated steps.
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May 3, 2016 20:54
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Non-standard shoe lacing? Do I even want to know? (You'd better not be talking about straight-lacing).
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May 3, 2016 21:01
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Non-standard shoe lacing? Do I even want to know? (You'd better not be talking about straight-lacing). Here's a few: http://imgur.com/gallery/vu8xpli
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May 3, 2016 21:26
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TWBalls posted:Here's a few: :facepalm: why
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May 3, 2016 21:28
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TWBalls posted:Here's a few: Sweet that brought me back to middle school ca. 2003.
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May 3, 2016 21:36
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*Puts on my black and white alt laced chucks, my vest with matching trinity knot tie and white gloves* "I'm ready to IT"
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May 3, 2016 21:40
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SaltLick posted:*Puts on my black and white alt laced chucks, my vest with matching trinity knot tie and white gloves* Forgot your dress cape.
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May 3, 2016 21:41
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:When I worked at Fry's for 2 months and got paid $8.50/hr we had to wear button down shirts, slacks and ties. In the technology sector there's a definite inverse correlation between the amount you get paid and the amount people care about how you dress.
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May 3, 2016 21:57
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Speaking of tie knots, I think I just found the best one, and everyone should use it.
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May 3, 2016 22:04
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MF_James posted::facepalm: why There are some lacing methods that are supposed to be good for various foot issues in runners, but these are pretty silly. I mostly wear slip-ons anymore, but I do use a different knot for laced shoes. That's 100% practical though, and you can't even tell the difference unless you look very closely.
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May 3, 2016 23:00
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Pretty much the future will be two ties like in BttF 2
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May 3, 2016 23:02
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Straight lacing looks really nice. It doesn't belong on the same page as all those other goofy lacing methods.
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May 3, 2016 23:08
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RFC2324 posted:Forgot your dress cape.
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May 3, 2016 23:10
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Straight lacing looks really nice. It doesn't belong on the same page as all those other goofy lacing methods. I thought it was on there, but I think the alternative part was hiding the knot under the flap, I forget what that part is called. I think that could look really cool on a closed-laced oxford / balmoral / whatever you want to call it, but you actually couldn't do it, I'm pretty sure. A neatly tied bow also kind of completes the look of a well-fitted balmoral, anyway. I love my [url=http://www.allenedmonds.com/shoes/mens-shoes/dress-shoes/park-avenue-cap-toe-oxfords/SF270.html[park avenues[/url]. They're in a sort of cordovan color not for sale anymore. Not as formal as black.
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May 3, 2016 23:30
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A year ago I wore a button up shirt and tie to work. Now I wear jeans and a polo, and make 40% more money and do 80% less work.
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May 4, 2016 00:12
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Grimshak posted:A year ago I wore a button up shirt and tie to work. Now I wear jeans and a polo, and make 40% more money and do 80% less work. Living the dream.
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May 4, 2016 00:22
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RFC2324 posted:Forgot your dress cape. Dress capes are only impressive if you sew them yourself! 
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May 4, 2016 00:45
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psydude posted:In the technology sector there's a definite inverse correlation between the amount you get paid and the amount people care about how you dress. Depends. for the people fixing poo poo and rescuing people, sure. But for the people reassuring the senior executives while it happens, a nice suit helps. A good firm needs both types.
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May 4, 2016 02:00
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psydude posted:In the technology sector there's a definite inverse correlation between the amount you get paid and the amount people care about how you dress. If a very senior network guy with deep institutional knowledge started showing up in clear violation of the dress code, he will probably get away with it but that doesn't mean no one cares. edit: I don't think any "IT guy" should be expected to wear a suit or even a tie unless they are doing it for a very specific reason on a specific day.
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May 4, 2016 02:33
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I'd prefer not to look like a scrub because how you look loving matters in a business.
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May 4, 2016 02:36
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GreenNight posted:I'd prefer not to look like a scrub because how you look loving matters in a business. Maybe if you're a salesman or a hooker.
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May 4, 2016 02:47
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Even if you're a tech, to management. Gotta be professional.
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May 4, 2016 02:48
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GreenNight posted:Even if you're a tech, to management. Gotta be professional. There's "being professional" and then there's "wearing a suit and tie to run checkservers.sh and eat cheetos while posting on forums.somethingawful.com"
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May 4, 2016 03:00
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RFC2324 posted:Speaking of tie knots, I think I just found the best one, and everyone should use it. Care must be taken in the art of Ties. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKvkBQukTgU invision posted:There's "being professional" and then there's "wearing a suit and tie to run checkservers.sh and eat cheetos while posting on forums.somethingawful.com" Don't forget scuffing up dress shoes on hardware!
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May 4, 2016 03:08
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Don't forget scuffing up dress shoes on hardware! 
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May 4, 2016 03:27
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GreenNight posted:Even if you're a tech, to management. Gotta be professional. What qualifies as professional dress varies from field to field and even organization to organization. Whether or not management cares if you wear a t-shirt or a three piece suit also varies depending on who is doing the management. Like many of the arguments in this thread on proper workplace etiquette it comes down to "learn to read social cues, and err on the side of caution early on."
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May 4, 2016 04:35
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NippleFloss posted:What qualifies as professional dress varies from field to field and even organization to organization. Whether or not management cares if you wear a t-shirt or a three piece suit also varies depending on who is doing the management. Like many of the arguments in this thread on proper workplace etiquette it comes down to "learn to read social cues, and err on the side of caution early on." Social... Cues? Listen pal, I work in IT. I didn't graduate with a liberal arts degree.
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May 4, 2016 06:13
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GreenNight posted:Even if you're a tech, to management. Gotta be professional. My management would laugh at me if I showed up wearing a button down shirt and a tie. And then assume I've got an interview somewhere else. Polo and jeans are perfectly acceptable.
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edit: I work federal government; and normally just throw dress-pants, a t-shirt, and a sweater or REI button-down on. I am pretty well regarded in my office and mostly sit in front of a computer screen so my management tends to give me a free pass even though I'm never quite up to snuff on the dress code. I do always keep a dress-shirt/tie in my office in case there's a surprise meeting with upper management though. --- I work alternating days in the office and at home. I also prefer to hand-write things for notes/daily tasks/etc. Conceptually, Dropbox + OneNote seems like a STELLAR option, but I really prefer to handwrite my notes (and prefer to be able to bring these to meetings). Yes I know a paper notebook also solves this, but I have a tendency to leave notes at one place or the other, thus am unable to get them the following day; plus being able to search would be nice, but not as critical Do any of those notebooks/styluses (e.g. lighstcribe) or handwriting tablets (ipad pro/surface) actually work well enough for this that it's more than a gadget? I can get work to purchase whatever within reason, but I dont want to just buy a gadget just to buy it. I'm actually trying to solve a problem. If none of those actually work that well, I'm just going to buy a nice moleskine and make sure I dont leave it behind. Walked fucked around with this message at 12:31 on May 4, 2016 |
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May 4, 2016 12:28
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Walked posted:edit: I work federal government; and normally just throw dress-pants, a t-shirt, and a sweater or REI button-down on. I am pretty well regarded in my office and mostly sit in front of a computer screen so my management tends to give me a free pass even though I'm never quite up to snuff on the dress code. I do always keep a dress-shirt/tie in my office in case there's a surprise meeting with upper management though. I use OneNote on my surface pro 3 / Samsung Note 4 / macbook pro and it works nicely. Not sure how searchable handwritten notes can get, but i haven't screwed around with the version that comes with paid MS Office either. next time you're in a Best Buy or pass by a Microsoft Store, try a surface out and see if you like writing on it.
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May 4, 2016 13:01
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My current office's dress code is 'make sure your nerdy t-shirt and jeans don't have visible gaping holes in them, and maybe wear shoes', and I've even been in violation of that.
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May 4, 2016 13:15
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When I work from home, my dress code is underwear if you're lucky. I've done a couple of Webex conferences sitting in my bedclothes. I wish I could do WFH all the time... Are there any good resources for installing MS Systems Center in either print or online copies? I've got a coworker who is struggling with getting the software setup in our development environment. I wish I could help him, but unfortunately my expertise is SQL in the organization.
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May 4, 2016 13:19
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rafikki posted:My management would laugh at me if I showed up wearing a button down shirt and a tie. And then assume I've got an interview somewhere else. Polo and jeans are perfectly acceptable. After my second interview (and hiring offer) they told me I was free to wear whatever I wanted, except I could never wear a suit here ever again.
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Vargatron posted:When I work from home, my dress code is underwear if you're lucky. I've done a couple of Webex conferences sitting in my bedclothes. I wish I could do WFH all the time... I wear pajamas all day. I think at this point I have more pajamas and gym clothes than khakis and polos. 
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Vargatron posted:Are there any good resources for installing MS Systems Center in either print or online copies? I've got a coworker who is struggling with getting the software setup in our development environment. I wish I could help him, but unfortunately my expertise is SQL in the organization. Systems Center is a whole suite (SCCM/SCVMM/DPM/SCOM) Which component is he trying to get going? SCCM is the bees knees, SCOM is okay but a bit of a kludge initially, SCVMM everyone seems to have mixed views on, and DPM is kinda mediocre but nice for backup if youre already licensed for the whole suite. Either way; there are plenty of guides - espeically for lab environments. https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/kevinholman/2013/10/30/configmgr-2012-r2-quickstart-deployment-guide/
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