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Because we all need a little tech support gore in our lives, behold, the passively-cooled Radeon HD 6450 in various Dell Optiplexes:    Incredibly, there is *not* a recall for these cards yet. http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3515/p/19598632/20858227#20858227 SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 17:17 on May 4, 2016 |
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 nah its fine quote:Be careful when you handle these graphics cards, and the heat sink looks like that. It could explode, I know. It happened today when I was a little bit curios and loosened the heat sink from the graphics card. The bang sounded like a gunshot, and if I had hold the heat sink it would probably hurt. would be one short obituary died from... external causes
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May 4, 2016 15:55
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how the buckfuck is that heatsink made of lead or something, that poo poo shouldn't balloon at all
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May 4, 2016 16:05
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Is that PCB made of the same stuff as those chinese drywall panels that were releasing fumes that dissolved houses?
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May 4, 2016 16:17
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Rastor posted:chinese drywall panels that were releasing fumes that dissolved houses That's some impressive planned obsolescence.
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May 4, 2016 16:20
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Chinesium: Not even once. edit: Anime Schoolgirl posted:how the buckfuck Vapor chamber walls were probably too thin, that's all. Aluminum is great stuff, but it's not magical. Although given the lowest-bidder nature of Dells, I wouldn't be surprised if the actual spec of the material called for 6061, and then they went and made the heatsinks out of mixed aluminum scraps that they melted back down instead. What's the significance of 6061 aluminum? Well, it's an alloy that's essentially the de-facto general-purpose alloy. It's got a little magnesium and silicon mixed in to harden it and give it excellent tensile strength. It's also what commonly gets used in aircraft parts. But mixed in with a bunch of other aluminum of questionable origin, and you get aluminum whose properties aren't what they should be. This is ESPECIALLY a problem in manufacturing, where you can't ever be 100% certain with Chinese material that what you're getting actually is what they say it is. You want 303 SST? Sure, they'll grab you a bar from the back. You want 304? They'll grab you a bar from the same rack. You want a big example, the new replacement span for the Bay Bridge in the SF Bay Area (This is the bridge that shows up on the Golden State Warriors' logo) is riddled with Chinesium, because we didn't have the domestic capacity to make the steel here in America. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 16:59 on May 4, 2016 |
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May 4, 2016 16:43
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A BLEVE isn't phase change cooling guys. 
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May 4, 2016 16:47
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xthetenth posted:A BLEVE isn't phase change cooling guys. 
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May 4, 2016 17:28
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So what's the normal procedure when a new generation of GPU's are released? Obviously there will be a ton of 2nd hand 970's hitting the market once the 1070/1080's come out, but what about the ones left in retailer's stock? Will they be heavily discounted, or what normally happens? I built my current machine with a 750ti as a stopgap measure a year and a half or so ago, but the card is so capable that I've never really felt compelled to spend the money to upgrade. I'm finally ready to do it, and have been waiting for the new generation of cards. However, if I can get a new 970 at a heavy discount, I'll probably just go with that. I think it'll still be good for 60fps 1080p gaming for a couple of years to come, right?
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xthetenth posted:A BLEVE isn't phase change cooling guys. But it does LOOK cool. 
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Bardeh posted:So what's the normal procedure when a new generation of GPU's are released? Obviously there will be a ton of 2nd hand 970's hitting the market once the 1070/1080's come out, but what about the ones left in retailer's stock? Will they be heavily discounted, or what normally happens? I built my current machine with a 750ti as a stopgap measure a year and a half or so ago, but the card is so capable that I've never really felt compelled to spend the money to upgrade. I'm finally ready to do it, and have been waiting for the new generation of cards. However, if I can get a new 970 at a heavy discount, I'll probably just go with that. I think it'll still be good for 60fps 1080p gaming for a couple of years to come, right? In the past I've seen a very short window of discounted old stock, but it does happen. Last gen it wasn't even worth it though
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THE DOG HOUSE posted:In the past I've seen a very short window of discounted old stock, but it does happen. Last gen it wasn't even worth it though
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May 4, 2016 18:45
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRz_CG3DZb4 good poo poo.
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Truga posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRz_CG3DZb4 Is there anything John Malkovich can't do?
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Nfcknblvbl posted:Is there anything John Malkovich can't do? I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this hahah. Pretty neat video too. Engineers do gods' work 
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May 4, 2016 19:48
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Just piss in my mouth already.  Garbage sale.
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May 4, 2016 22:02
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I mean, it's not exactly Boxing Day.
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May 4, 2016 22:25
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Look at dem there mail in rebates.
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Vintersorg posted:Just piss in my mouth already. Wow! What deep discounts! That Hybrid 980Ti for only $915 in CAD, in the US it costs $670 USD, of course that $670 is not a sale price so they might go down a bit here, still, pretty impressive pricing in Canada! $670 USD = $860 CAD. 
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May 4, 2016 22:40
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More sales tax in Canada too. Alas.
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May 4, 2016 22:47
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What you do is take your PC with you across the border to USA. Buy a video card in Michigan, install it in your PC, go eat a long lunch or dinner, then drive back across the border with the explanation that you went to a LAN party. Hide the invoice for the video card underneath the motherboard. Bam, no import duties on video card. IANAL
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May 4, 2016 22:56
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If you're willing to break the law, there are lots of ways to save money.
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SlayVus posted:What you do is take your PC with you across the border to USA. Buy a video card in Michigan, install it in your PC, go eat a long lunch or dinner, then drive back across the border with the explanation that you went to a LAN party. Hide the invoice for the video card underneath the motherboard. You're not going to get a very good deal if you buy a 980 Ti at a retail outlet. And bearing in mind that $1 CAD is only $0.78 USD, you might actually come out behind. e: $650 USD + 6% tax is the cheapest that Microcenter has, so after 6% MI tax and the exchange rate it's $884 CAD for a base-level Zotac or Asus Strix 980 Ti. Of course you pay 13% (?) sales tax in Canada, so the cheapest there works out to $915 CAD, but you're not exactly saving gigantic piles of cash by bootlegging a GPU, you're talking about $30 CAD (or roughly a nickel in American dollars  ). Mostly you're just saving on sales tax, minus the gas you spend idling on the Ambassador Bridge for two hours.Seriously guys, it's been said before and I'll say it again: Aussies and Canucks are getting hosed by their exchange rate and Europeans are getting hosed by their VAT, the price differences are minimal after those two factors are accounted for. If you don't like that, why don't you try lobbying your governments to cut welfare and education, or let you die of a preventable disease, so that you can vidya more cheaply? I'm sure they'll get right on that. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 00:41 on May 5, 2016 |
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I don't care for the exchange rate - I just feel these are vastly overpriced this long into their life.
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Vintersorg posted:I don't care for the exchange rate - I just feel these are vastly overpriced this long into their life. Retail prices never go down. The 980 Tis for $545 are online only. I agree that's too high at this point in time, however. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 00:59 on May 5, 2016 |
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May 5, 2016 00:47
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Subjunctive posted:If you're willing to break the law, there are lots of ways to save money. Quote this post if you voluntarily declared any out-of-state online purchases in your IRS filings this year
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Hubis posted:Quote this post if you voluntarily declared any out-of-state online purchases in your IRS filings this year Yes. (my state lets you declare that you didn't track them individually and pay a tax based on income instead, and I bought a lot more than the break-even $833 online) Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 02:03 on May 5, 2016 |
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May 5, 2016 01:52
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Hubis posted:Quote this post if you voluntarily declared any out-of-state online purchases in your IRS filings this year Yep, use tax per the lookup table.
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Hubis posted:Quote this post if you voluntarily declared any out-of-state online purchases in your IRS filings this year lmao gently caress no
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Hubis posted:Quote this post if you voluntarily declared any out-of-state online purchases in your IRS filings this year Yes for VA state return.
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Well, I suppose the answer is technically "no", because they go in state filings and not to the IRS.
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I have a GTX 970 right now and game at 1080p. I'm planning on ditching nvidia and going back to AMD once Polaris drops since Freesync monitors are way cheaper than G-sync ones and I want to experience no-tearing, 144Hz buttery smooth goodness. This is a good idea, right? I don't know how credible this is, but Techpowerup claims that the R9 480 non-X version (priced at around $200) performs close to a 390X at half its power draw: https://www.techpowerup.com/222156/amd-radeon-r9-480-non-x-performs-close-to-r9-390x That can't be right, right?
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teagone posted:Freesync monitors are way cheaper than G-sync ones and I want to experience no-tearing, 144Hz buttery smooth goodness. If you're hitting 144Hz, or near it, you IMO don't need *sync. You might want ULMB though.
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teagone posted:I have a GTX 970 right now and game at 1080p. I'm planning on ditching nvidia and going back to AMD once Polaris drops since Freesync monitors are way cheaper than G-sync ones and I want to experience no-tearing, 144Hz buttery smooth goodness. This is a good idea, right? I don't know how credible this is, but Techpowerup claims that the R9 480 non-X version (priced at around $200) performs close to a 390X at half its power draw: https://www.techpowerup.com/222156/amd-radeon-r9-480-non-x-performs-close-to-r9-390x That can't be right, right? That was looked at up-thead, the thing is that they were using the on-screen numbers to claim that the 480 is equal with the 390X, the problem is that the tests were obviously done with vsync enabled, they also include off-screen results which don't have vsync getting in the way, in those results the 480 benches much more like you would expect, at about 75% of the speed of a 390X and with less than half the texturing performance. On top of that this is an OpenGL based benchmark meant for things like smartphones and tablets so basically what I am saying here is the results were badly misrepresented and to take said results with a giant block of salt on top of that.
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For the love of God I need to know the price and performance of a GTX 1080 already. The ZOTAC AMP! 980 Ti price is down to $539. I don't want to miss out on all these smoking deals on a 980 Ti if we find out the 1080 isn't quite on par or is more expensive. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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^^^^ Strange timing there. Don't get too excited for Pascal though quote:However if we compare it GTX 980 Ti running at almost the same frequency (1.8GHz with LN2 cooling), GTX 1080 is actually much slower clock to clock (link). Starting to sound less gamernerd focused and more HPC/Workstation focused. EmpyreanFlux fucked around with this message at 13:08 on May 5, 2016 |
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On the other hand, by putting up firesales retailers are placing a pretty obvious bet on how attractive the current generation will be when the 1080 is released.
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1080 looks compelling, maybe, from a power consumption standpoint. Cores individually are slower and a 1.8ghz 1080 seems to be about 10% faster than a factory OC 980ti (~1.2ghz). The 1080 doesn't seem that attractive at all for 1080 owners, 1070 even less so. Really depends on Pascals headroom.
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Going from 28nm to 14nm is (almost)like going from the intel i5 2500k to the 6600k. There is clock-for-clock performance gains of 25% and ~45% less power draw. plus I would think they would have extra space/power/cooling for other cool stuff on the chip/card if they want
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