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WampaLord posted:Another great feature is that the test scores are used as a way of doling out budget to the schools, with high-grading schools getting more money and low-grading schools getting less. But if we don't punish them for their stupidity, how will they ever be motivated enough to really TRY? We don't want them to become DEPENDENT, do we?
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Joementum posted:The state senator who was bribed wrote a memo to the Paul campaign asking for $100,000 in cash, payable in twelve monthly installments of $8,000. Seriously. Haha that's pretty great.
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May 5, 2016 18:26
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Zelder posted:i only know one guy who vapes and he is exactly as you just envisioned him in your mind's eye. My nephew vapes It's infected my family
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Joementum posted:The state senator who was bribed wrote a memo to the Paul campaign asking for $100,000 in cash, payable in twelve monthly installments of $8,000. Seriously.
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May 5, 2016 18:31
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I'm against legitimate vape, but some of the charges are absurd.
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WampaLord posted:Another great feature is that the test scores are used as a way of doling out budget to the schools, with high-grading schools getting more money and low-grading schools getting less. The quality of the tests is also extremely questionable. My fiancee teaches 3rd grade and she told me about several questions that had some fundamental problems like not being grammatically correct, not having the correct answer for a question listed in the multiple choices (and there wasn't a "no answer is right" option), etc.
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May 5, 2016 18:36
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The biggest problem I have with the whole vaping thing is the candy and fruit flavored crap, which is likely targeted at getting children to buy it like they used to with flavored cigarettes.
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May 5, 2016 18:43
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An Angry Bug posted:Has he actually said this? Because the first time I've seen it brought up in the thread was N4I's Fox News-style "just asking questions." Yes.
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May 5, 2016 18:43
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VitalSigns posted:If the fear that polls will change in the next six months is actually causing you this much mental distress, it's time to turn off the computer and go take a walk outside or talk to someone about your irrational anxiety. Plus we're now at the point where polls are somewhat predictive: http://election.princeton.edu/2016/05/01/what-do-head-to-head-general-election-polls-tell-us-about-november/ They can narrow (or expand) somewhat but by early May they're now in the "actually somewhat useful" territory.
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May 5, 2016 18:44
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http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/trump-loving-tow-truck-driver-says-god-told-him-to-leave-bernie-sanders-supporter-stranded/quote:The conservative Christian suggested he had a religious right to refuse service to Sanders supporters. Who could have possibly seen something like this coming?
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May 5, 2016 18:46
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Aerox posted:http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/trump-loving-tow-truck-driver-says-god-told-him-to-leave-bernie-sanders-supporter-stranded/ Can't wait till its used to justify refusing service to blacks and middle eastern people. God Bless America.
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May 5, 2016 18:48
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Just like we all know the story of the average Samaritan who passed by the poor soul on the road because he was from a different religion and that was all fine and groovy.
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axeil posted:Plus we're now at the point where polls are somewhat predictive: The polling about Trump has never once been wrong this entire cycle. CommieGIR posted:Can't wait till its used to justify refusing service to blacks and middle eastern people. God Bless America. Miss the KY County Clerk saga?
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:It is inherently based on racism. Get this, Big Labor was hella racist. It sure was, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say they hated certain ethnicities/races because those groups were deliberately brought in to break the union/scab. Union guys loving hate scabs and the employers decision to import a different race/ethnicity is a deliberate tactic. The different periods of migration in the US were basically the quest for lower cost labor by using different groups against each other. Although the fact that the waves of immigration were from different area may have merely been very very convenient rather than a plan conscious or not. Now that transportation costs are low the companies can just ship the whole factory overseas and domestic stuff that you can't send overseas uses illegal migrants that work for less and have zero access to recourse. The best kind of labor!
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An Angry Bug posted:Has he actually said this? Because the first time I've seen it brought up in the thread was N4I's Fox News-style "just asking questions." rkajdi posted:Because being rural is a protected class like being a native American. Oh wait... rkajdi posted:How is removing a child out of an abusive situation beating a poor person? The child's well-being is more important than allowing the parent to continue to parent. If you abuse your kids, you shouldn't have the privilege of raising them. Note that I've seen the same trash being put up by good, upstanding middle class families too. Both should be losing their kids. rkajdi posted:Depends on the wrongthink. "I get to abuse the gay out of my kid", "I want to homeschool them into permanent underclassdom", and "My useless religion wants to deny them medical care" are all abuse. Sorry, your kid is a future member of society, not some extension of the parents. I want kids who are more competent and educated than my generation was.
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zoux posted:Miss the KY County Clerk saga? Considering its still ongoing thanks to Liberty Council using it as a placard for support? No.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Those fears are based on racist assumptions. ok we get it while people are racist I'm glad you can sum up 400 years of North American labor in a word.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:he must hail from the benighted suburbs nice meltdown In all seriousness though. Living in Kentucky where people in rural areas were actively admitting they voted for Matt loving Bevin and then were shocked, shocked, that he took away their healthcare (but still think they did the right thing), I can understand the anger and frustration. Largely because of the rural vote (and abysmally low turnout but dammit I'm gonna shake my impotent fist anyway), I'm standing by helplessly as Kynect had literally had its plug pulled---the site now gives you a 404---the KYHC was immediately dismantled, he gave millions of dollars to a creationist museum to build a loving ark, and sexual assault is apparently no longer a reason for suspension/expulsion from schools. Does this mean round everyone up into camps, gas them, and brainwash their children? gently caress no, gently caress that guy for mentioning it or even thinking it. Plus, loving Conway didn't even bother telling people in his stronghold urban cities to come out and vote. But someone voted that rear end in a top hat in, and outside of Berea, I'm drawing a complete blank for a non-urban center that would've voted against him. I hold Louisville in the same disregard as Nader voters in Florida 2000---they could've made a difference given the low turnout, but they couldn't be loving bothered. But the rural vote is the main reason we have a psychopath in the governor's mansion right now, and I think that's as much a reason to be very, very angry with them as we would with whatever Trump's key demographic is if he wins. Stupid white old makes? gently caress, I dunno. Fascism is bad and stupid and wrong but let's not white knight an entire demographic that has doomed the state to Mad Max style anarchy. I'm sure individually there's some lovely people out in the East and West but a literal goddamn measurement has been taken that there's a whole lot of awful ones. Chokes McGee fucked around with this message at 18:57 on May 5, 2016 |
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Torpor posted:ok we get it while people are racist I'm glad you can sum up 400 years of North American labor in a word. You very much can sum up the history of American labor with the word: racist. You can sum up American history with that word too, for the most part.
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nutranurse posted:You very much can sum up the history of American labor with the word: racist. You can sum up American history with that word too, for the most part. Ok that is true got me there. Edit: I mean the more broad way you phrased it. Race/ethnic hatred has historically been used by employers to gently caress over workers. I think that is why the left has more recently adopted anti-racism stances, for instance by the Wobblies, to counter the that tactic and to unify labor. Torpor fucked around with this message at 19:02 on May 5, 2016 |
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Aerox posted:http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/trump-loving-tow-truck-driver-says-god-told-him-to-leave-bernie-sanders-supporter-stranded/ Maybe it is religious he just doesn't like jews. Wait, that isn't better.
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Joementum posted:The state senator who was bribed wrote a memo to the Paul campaign asking for $100,000 in cash, payable in twelve monthly installments of $8,000. Seriously. I'll take "More people unfamiliar with structuring" for $1000, Alex.
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Talmonis posted:The biggest problem I have with the whole vaping thing is the candy and fruit flavored crap, which is likely targeted at getting children to buy it like they used to with flavored cigarettes. There's no reason to ban this along as peppermint schnapps is still available.
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Aerox posted:http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/trump-loving-tow-truck-driver-says-god-told-him-to-leave-bernie-sanders-supporter-stranded/ Yeah we're gonna see a lot more of this because this is exactly what "religious liberty" means to the people pushing for RFRA style bills. Expect a lot of time, energy and resources to be wasted in the next decade fighting over this blatant nonsense. Chokes McGee posted:and sexual assault is apparently no longer a reason for suspension/expulsion from schools. Wait what
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All labor is xenophobic by its very nature. It's not an American phenomenon, and the only "unique" aspect of America's labor is how badly black people and natives were ground underfoot to get the country up and running.
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article75797342.html
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Talmonis posted:All labor is xenophobic by its very nature. It's not an American phenomenon, and the only "unique" aspect of America's labor is how badly black people and natives were ground underfoot to get the country up and running. Well many European nations did it too, they just ground people in their native countries rather than live alongside them.
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We must stop those religious extremists who pay to marry their children off to each other and oh wait they're Christian nevermindquote:1) The ‘youth’ ready for marriage has breasts. A woman who is to be married is one who has breasts; breasts which signal her readiness for marriage, and breasts who promise enjoyment for her husband. (We believe that ‘breasts’ here stand as a symbol for all forms of full secondary sexual characteristics.) quote:Bride price: What is it, and why is it important? Wouldn’t a bride price be like selling your daughter? But wait, you ask, does not a legitimate marriage require the consent of both people marrying? quote:Doesn’t a legitimate marriage require the consent of both the people marrying?
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Let me present you with the greatest newspaper cover image ever: Pounded in the rear end by My Own rear end
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Talmonis posted:All labor is xenophobic by its very nature. It's not an American phenomenon, and the only "unique" aspect of America's labor is how badly black people and natives were ground underfoot to get the country up and running. Ok, unless your goal is some sort of minimum income, I have to question how you might plan helping the lives of the poor. "Getting a grown up job" is not a valid answer.
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Radbot posted:There's no reason to ban this along as peppermint schnapps is still available. Alcohol doesn't have remotely the same penetration into school communities as tobacco products. And it's much harder to aquire (as it's much tighter regulated) for a child than cigarettes are. The legal purchase age is a large part of it, and likely why California is raising the minimum to 21.
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Luigi Thirty posted:We must stop those religious extremists who pay to marry their children off to each other and oh wait they're Christian nevermind
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Talmonis posted:All labor is xenophobic by its very nature. It's not an American phenomenon, and the only "unique" aspect of America's labor is how badly black people and natives were ground underfoot to get the country up and running. I can see that, but again I think the racist/bigoted response stems from economic resentment that is fostered by employment tactics. Calling labor racist could be correct but that would be like punching someone who then falls over and then calling that person clumsy. ( I am bad at analogies)
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MacheteZombie posted:I don't know a single person who vapes to quit smoking. I think the closest anyone really gets to this is 'has to be better than actual cigarettes'. My parents started because it was cheaper than cigarettes at the time, then kept doing it because they stopped coughing up tar and poo poo. There's no way the poo poo's healthy, but from superficial observation they seem to be hacking and coughing less. They don't use those bigass lightsaber looking vape things that sound like somebody trying to clear a lungful of water when you fire them up, though. I have to imagine they're huffing less of that poo poo than is typical.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Wait what Mea culpa, that one's actually unrelated to Bevin. It's just normal terribleness! E: aaaand on second read assault/abuse is not covered so I was misinformed. Still lovely though! Chokes McGee fucked around with this message at 19:26 on May 5, 2016 |
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Torpor posted:It sure was, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say they hated certain ethnicities/races because those groups were deliberately brought in to break the union/scab. Union guys loving hate scabs and the employers decision to import a different race/ethnicity is a deliberate tactic. Yeah no, the Labor movement was just as racist as anyone else. No mitigating it by blaming the Chinese or Mexicans for taking our jobs. The fact blacks were banned from most unions is all the proof you need. Wobblies were like the biggest exception.
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MacheteZombie posted:I don't know a single person who vapes to quit smoking. Tons of guys in the military claim that they do.
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Technogeek posted:Pounded in the rear end by My Own rear end (this is the space where I'd post a picture of "Pounded in the Butt by My Own Butt" but I'm not googling that poo poo at work)
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:I hope you don't actually talk to people and say this stuff out loud, you're the liberal boogeyman that republicans are scared of. No, that's me. I'm super authoritarian and also sincerely believe in one world government complete with tracking chips, controls on movement, and all that other good stuff. And probably a lot of unfortunate but necessary sidelining, let's call it, of people who won't go along. Which is for the best really because we're going to need a population reduction.
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