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ethanol posted:The Xbox one is already really small; can't see it getting any smaller theultimo posted:Your joking right No, he's 100% right. It can't get any smaller because MS is bad at designing electronics.
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Crazy internet rumor: Nintendo NX might not use optical storage, will switch back to cartridges
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May 5, 2016 16:15
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Rastor posted:Crazy internet rumor: Nintendo NX might not use optical storage, will switch back to cartridges Why the gently caress not. What are the manufacturing costs of a blu-ray disk vs an SD card?
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May 5, 2016 16:22
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Rastor posted:Crazy internet rumor: Nintendo NX might not use optical storage, will switch back to cartridges Because its a hybrid handheld with no games at launch so it will of course have a 3ds slot
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May 5, 2016 16:24
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Rastor posted:Crazy internet rumor: Nintendo NX might not use optical storage, will switch back to cartridges Costs on producing "cartridges" of this side have reached a point where this starts kind-of becoming feasible. There's a pro-con tradeoff which is about right at this point. Per-unit cost is higher but not necessarily cripplingly so like it was in the N64 days. Better read speeds means installs aren't necessarily required, can possibly get away with smaller internal storage for the console itself which will be important if it's portable (not good for spinny disks), and may have better options for >50 gig games in future should the need arise. Wheany posted:Why the gently caress not. Blu-ray discs on on the order of pennies for 50 gigs, 32 gig SD cards seem to be sub-$15 on eBay.
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May 5, 2016 16:25
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univbee posted:Blu-ray discs on on the order of pennies for 50 gigs, 32 gig SD cards seem to be sub-$15 on eBay. Contract price for 32 gigs of NAND flash is $1.50 right now. Blu-ray replication is around $2-$3 for a dual layer (50 GB) disc with packaging. Basically: Smartphones, tablets and SSDs have driven the costs of NAND flash way the hell down, and as less people are buying optical media in favor of streaming, the pressing costs of blu-ray haven't dropped to the level that the CD and DVD formats have. Instant Sunrise fucked around with this message at 17:17 on May 5, 2016 |
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May 5, 2016 17:13
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Instant Sunrise posted:Contract price for 32 gigs of NAND flash is $1.50 right now. Blu-ray replication is around $2-$3 for a dual layer (50 GB) disc with packaging. Goddamn, that's a lot closer than I expected. gently caress optical media.
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May 5, 2016 17:14
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univbee posted:Goddamn, that's a lot closer than I expected. gently caress optical media. Last time I used a disk was in the Xbox one and it didn't install right anyway
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May 5, 2016 17:15
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We've come full circle and cartridges are cheaper again.
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May 5, 2016 17:20
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Maybe the NX is the N64...GB
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May 5, 2016 17:24
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Rastor posted:Crazy internet rumor: Nintendo NX might not use optical storage, will switch back to cartridges They're not even bothering to pretend to give a gently caress about third parties this time.
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May 5, 2016 18:32
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Just rip the bandaid off already and go digital only. gently caress the people who keep thinking up imaginary scenarios of one or two gamers living off the grid not having access to video games, as if anyone with that kind of life style is playing video games.
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May 5, 2016 19:12
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I said come in! posted:Just rip the bandaid off already and go digital only. gently caress the people who keep thinking up imaginary scenarios of one or two gamers living off the grid not having access to video games, as if anyone with that kind of life style is playing video games. Physical is still too huge, especially in Japan where people don't do credit cards. See this?  This was a lineup to RESERVE a regular edition of the most recent Pokémon game. On 3DS. Which you could buy digitally without putting on pants. This was just a year and a half ago.
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May 5, 2016 19:28
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Yeah, but Japan loves waiting in lines. Look at the shape of the country. It's just a bunch of landmasses waiting in line.
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May 5, 2016 19:29
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Jokes on us the NX is going to distribute games on amiibos.
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May 5, 2016 19:31
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Takoluka posted:Yeah, but Japan loves waiting in lines. Look at the shape of the country. It's just a bunch of landmasses waiting in line. Exactly, they don't give a poo poo about this all-digital future. Nintendo's not going to do it because Japan, Sony's not going to do it because also Japan, and Microsoft literally died trying.
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May 5, 2016 19:32
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Takoluka posted:Yeah, but Japan loves waiting in lines. Look at the shape of the country. It's just a bunch of landmasses waiting in line. 
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May 5, 2016 19:47
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Is anyone really surprised anymore that the Japanese don't line up for Americans dropping bombs in Tokyo
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May 5, 2016 19:57
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univbee posted:Physical is still too huge, especially in Japan where people don't do credit cards. See this? omg why
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May 5, 2016 20:10
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univbee posted:Physical is still too huge, especially in Japan where people don't do credit cards. See this? America is better than Japan.
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May 5, 2016 20:13
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People in America do that for iPhones though so I guess it's whatever
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May 5, 2016 20:14
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Bass Bottles posted:omg why I'm kind of surprised since trade-ins aside (which are admittedly huge in Japan) Japan should be embracing the hell out of digital. No long-rear end lines. No item taking up physical space. Hell, order online and get it release day, drat. And yet you'd think it was Black Friday every single time a major title launched, especially major Nintendo titles and Monster Hunter. And I'm guessing Final Fantasy XV will be total insanity too.  Bass Bottles posted:People in America do that for iPhones though so I guess it's whatever Yeah but you can't download an iPhone. Yet.
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May 5, 2016 20:14
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univbee posted:Physical is still too huge, especially in Japan where people don't do credit cards. See this? Japan is made to suffer for their sins (creating anime).
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May 5, 2016 20:15
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that pic is a perfect example of why japanese people don't deserve to live on an island paradise neither can they engineer buildings that properly withstand an earthquake but their queue forming is atrocious ever here of take number i mean jesus look at that walkway, it's going to kill at least three dozen people i forgot they're all anime freaks too let's just hope a tsunami hit a few minutes after this picture
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May 5, 2016 20:15
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ethanol posted:an island paradise Holy poo poo you have some serious misconceptions about the bulk of Japan's geography if you think this.
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May 5, 2016 20:17
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Judge not a country by the character of its nerds
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May 5, 2016 20:18
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univbee posted:Holy poo poo you have some serious misconceptions about the bulk of Japan's geography if you think this. Its a smelly humid network of valleys packed with unhappy smokers
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May 5, 2016 20:20
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Bass Bottles posted:Judge not a country by the character of its nerds speaking of judging a character of a nerd i thought this was the xbox thread please don't probate me for cullutural hate, mods i apologize thought iw as talking about hawaii anyawys
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May 5, 2016 20:20
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Yeah, nobody hates the otaku like Japanese people. A major anime convention got cancelled due to the big tsunami. The governor of Tokyo publicly said they deserved it. Then he was re-elected.
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May 5, 2016 20:22
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It's like a glimpse into the future of Donald Trump's America
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May 5, 2016 20:24
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Which is funny, because deep down, he knows that otaku help control the economy despite Abe's earnest attempts to make sure it crumbles to the ground. On top of that, Japan loves foreign otaku who visit, because they also spend tons of money. They might hate otaku, but they certainly don't hate their money.
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May 5, 2016 20:26
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lucky for me i dont know what otaku means
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May 5, 2016 20:27
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Takoluka posted:Which is funny, because deep down, he knows that otaku help control the economy despite Abe's earnest attempts to make sure it crumbles to the ground. Yup. This is also why the bulk of lower-cost anime series and videogames are fanservice-y: that guarantees a certain intake, and oftentimes their business strategy is this: 1. How much money do we want to make? This is x. 2. How many people are so broken they will buy our special edition boxset/saucy anime figurine/whatever no matter what it costs? This is y. 3. OK x divided by y is what the boxset/anime figurine is going to cost. ethanol posted:lucky for me i dont know what otaku means anime weeaboo
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May 5, 2016 20:29
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And then they majorly hosed that up by putting America and Japan in the same blu-ray region. So all the Japanese fans would just wait for the American release and import that instead of buying the overpriced Japanese release.
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May 5, 2016 20:35
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Instant Sunrise posted:And then they majorly hosed that up by putting America and Japan in the same blu-ray region. So all the Japanese fans would just wait for the American release and import that instead of buying the overpriced Japanese release. Some studios counter-measured that in various ways, after all this wasn't new due to LaserDiscs which redefined "are you loving kidding me?" pricing ($100 for a single 30-minute episode? Such value!). Also although it's not explicitly region-locked, it is possible for Blu-ray players to do weird things which block Japanese options on non-Japanese players. I have several Blu-ray discs, especially from Warner Bros., which have every world language on them because they decided to just make a single disc for the entire world  , and if I rip the disc I can find and pull the Japanese tracks, but they're inaccessible to me via straight playback. So the disc does this:Japanese players: only allow English and Japanese language options. Non-Japanese players: allow all languages except for Japanese. Also some Blu-ray discs will lock the ability to play in straight Japanese (as in without subtitles) and stuff like that. Hell, here in Canada there are two separate DVD releases of Amélie: One has no subtitles at all (it's an unbelievably lazy PAL-to-NTSC conversion of the European French DVD and is missing features which are on the menu; you hover over them and a "not available" message comes up), and the other has subtitles in English and Spanish but you can't turn them off at all (you can cycle them but they'll always be enabled). Even better, they programmed in two sets of each subtitle track. Why? So if you're watching on a 4x3 TV the subtitles are shifted upwards because they have to guarantee that the subtitles are obstructing the picture. Seriously. Two separate distributors who all did the dumbest poo poo imaginable due to both laziness and not pissing the other off. univbee fucked around with this message at 20:46 on May 5, 2016 |
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May 5, 2016 20:42
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Seriously why do you nerds know all this asinine poo poo
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May 5, 2016 20:44
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ethanol posted:Seriously why do you nerds know all this asinine poo poo Isn't knowing asinine poo poo like the definition of a nerd?
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May 5, 2016 20:47
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 As for why I know poo poo I was stationed in Okinawa way too long
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May 5, 2016 20:50
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my genius idea brain can retain information which i can recall later, basically at will. i can remember whatever i want, and even some things i would rather not. i use this to store things i might want to know later, and even some things i will never need to know again just because it tickles my fancy
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univbee posted:Some studios counter-measured that in various ways, after all this wasn't new due to LaserDiscs which redefined "are you loving kidding me?" pricing ($100 for a single 30-minute episode? Such value!). Also although it's not explicitly region-locked, it is possible for Blu-ray players to do weird things which block Japanese options on non-Japanese players. I have several Blu-ray discs, especially from Warner Bros., which have every world language on them because they decided to just make a single disc for the entire world Remember VCD's from Asia? Those had no penetration in North America yet huge in Asia. It was a terrible format
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