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Potsticker
Jan 14, 2006


15% increased drop rate for So Awful is goooooo!

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Shinino Kage
Sep 5, 2008

Drakes posted:

Sounds like you won crystals and they want you to fill in some support form with name of your Twitter account?

Could be wrong.

Question is -- where is it -- I'm gonna look soon.

ilifinicus
Mar 7, 2004

I believe they're asking you to fill in the Contact Us form at the bottom of the game's front page and put in your twitter account name there

Scoss
Aug 17, 2015

Rainuwastaken posted:

From my extremely limited experience, I think you need a copy of that weapon to act as a sacrifice to uncap. So in order to uncap, uh....a "mythril rapier", lets say, you would need to find another mythril rapier to smash into it.

I got two Tyrant spears from the current event and I can't figure out for the life of me why I am not able to smoosh them together. One of them is level 30 and the fodder is level 1, and any time I try to uncap either of them it says no suitable item is in my inventory.

Potsticker
Jan 14, 2006


Scoss posted:

I got two Tyrant spears from the current event and I can't figure out for the life of me why I am not able to smoosh them together. One of them is level 30 and the fodder is level 1, and any time I try to uncap either of them it says no suitable item is in my inventory.

Do you have the level 1 one equipped on any preset? That's usually the reason why it won't show up. Even if it's not your current party it still counts as being equipped and you can't use it to uncap.

Shinino Kage
Sep 5, 2008

Rainuwastaken posted:

From my extremely limited experience, I think you need a copy of that weapon to act as a sacrifice to uncap. So in order to uncap, uh....a "mythril rapier", lets say, you would need to find another mythril rapier to smash into it.

Thanks -- I think I did it, although I didn't have anything to put in for Item Name, issue or time-date. I'm hoping all they wanted was my email and my Twitter name.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

RGCrab posted:

Boots and Blades has been kind to my poor starter self. Story was a ton of gems, and since I got Lucifer in my starter gacha this event has been helping me start building a mediocre weapon grid. Got two maxed out tyrant bow, one maxed tyrant spear, and need just one more Druj to max him out. I'm hoping by the end of the event I get lucky on Druj drops and get a few harps so I can max one of those out too.

Now I just need some light characters other than Vermeil, though for a rare he has been amazing damage.

If you get multiple harps do not uncap them until you fill your entire weapon grid with weapons that have a skill to boost Light Attack. Light and Dark are hard to start early on because the availability of Element Attack skills on weapons is really garbage. The Tyrant Spear is Light Health (useless) and the Tyrant Bow is Light Multi Attack (mostly useless). Still useful as stat sticks early on or materials for upgrading.

The harps themselves are pretty mediocre because their stats suck and they are an SSR weapon with Medium (3%) instead of Large (6%) bonus due to having a second Light (1%) bonus to health.

Raitzeno
Nov 24, 2007

What? It seemed like
a good idea at the time.

This event has been all Light, and the Guild War stuff was also Light-focused. When do us 'normal' element team havers get a useful event? :/

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
Fire Wind Water and Earth are all incredibly easy to farm up a basic set of weapons so you shouldn't complain or you will face karmic justice in the form of bad RNG.

Raitzeno
Nov 24, 2007

What? It seemed like
a good idea at the time.

Eej posted:

Fire Wind Water and Earth are all incredibly easy to farm up a basic set of weapons so you shouldn't complain or you will face karmic justice in the form of bad RNG.

That's so condescending it's almost cute, now please enlighten me on how. Not everyone has been playing this since the age of moonrunes and knows the game inside and out.

Valatar
Sep 26, 2011

A remarkable example of a pathetic species.
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Raitzeno posted:

That's so condescending it's almost cute, now please enlighten me on how. Not everyone has been playing this since the age of moonrunes and knows the game inside and out.

There are element-themed events in the rotation, just have to wait for them to pop up. In the meantime, you can fight the 3-day rotation bosses and trade in their loot for weapons in the store. And you get medals for fighting in raids that can also be exchanged for elemental weapons in the store.

Raitzeno
Nov 24, 2007

What? It seemed like
a good idea at the time.

That's much more helpful, thank you. When you say 3-day rotation bosses, which ones are those / how do I get to them? I'm up to the beginning of the island with Celeste, i think, in the story.

Valatar
Sep 26, 2011

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Raitzeno posted:

That's much more helpful, thank you. When you say 3-day rotation bosses, which ones are those / how do I get to them? I'm up to the beginning of the island with Celeste, i think, in the story.

The special tab on your quest screen, they're the "showdown" option and rotate out every few days.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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Raitzeno posted:

That's so condescending it's almost cute, now please enlighten me on how. Not everyone has been playing this since the age of moonrunes and knows the game inside and out.

I'm not actually being serious about karmic justice and I started recently but anyway

How to gear up and shoot past everyone who doesn't know what they're doing

PUNCH OMEGA RAIDS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE

The Really Basic Way

1.
Hit rank 30 so you can start seeing Omega raids pop up.

2.
Look for the corresponding summon in the raid list and go poke it. If you're relying on the raid list this can suck when someone hosts something like Celeste Hard and no one wants to spend their EP on hitting a half dead undead boat for little reward and your list won't refresh until everything it grabbed is dead. Easier and faster way is to go to Twitter (or Tweetdeck) and search for the boss directly since it circumvents the limitations of the internal raid list. So let's say you're looking to gear up your Fire team, well you go to twitter and search for コロッサス・マグナ (Colossus Magna/Omega) and suddenly you'll see a constant stream of Requests for Help. Just make sure to check the level on it because you won't be able to join the level 100 ones and they're not meant for the kind of farming you want to do anyway.

Everyone who has contributed more than 0 points gets a chance at loot, usually 4 gold chests but you can get 5 if you're lucky and/or get second place in points. If you join in and the boss explodes before you can touch anything you get your EP refunded, don't worry. Very helpful to set your animations to fast since everyone else does and you'll spend extra time watching your dudes and dudettes hit things while they've already cycled through their skills and attacks twice. You can of course set it back to normal speed when you're doing solo stuff cause the game is very pretty and you should appreciate it.

Farming this way is painful because you very frequently will just get tons of Archangel Weapons that will clog your inventory/stash but EP is free and recharges pretty fast so you might as well.

The Slightly More Involved Way

So you're really bummed out about how awful the droprates are (I believe it's 3% for Fire/Water/Wind/Earth?). How do you increase your chances and Farm Smarter? Let's say you're Wind and you want to farm up some cool weapons to really boost your damage, here's how you do it.

First, beat Tiamat Normal. She'll be lurking around in Chapter 4. Then beat Tiamat Hard. You can request backup for these but here's where things get more complicated.

Whoever "Discovers" (hosts) a raid gets a guaranteed Red chest which usually has better items than the regular drops inside. Additionally, if you are #1 on points you get another Red chest for being the MVP of the fight. Generally speaking if you are using all your debuffs and do about 50% of a boss' HP you're guaranteed to be the MVP. Just be aware that debuffs, even missing, give pretty good contribution and landing them gives even more.

Anyway once you've beaten those you can go back to the starting island and look around for Tiamat Omega. She requires 50 AP and 3 Tiamat Omega Animas to start. The Omegas can drop directly from Tiamat Hard or you can craft them in the Shop under Treasures for 3 regular Tiamat Animas + a bunch of those useless crystals you get for assisting on Omega raids. The very nice guaranteed way of getting Omega Animas is to get the ball rolling on your Casino fortune cause Omega Animas cost 15k (or 20k for Celeste/Luminiera) each. Those plus maxing out Half Elixirs and Soul Berries costs you about like 70-80k a day which isn't really that bad when you can make that much in like two good Poker hands (or one Bingo in the 10 man room).

So the reason why you're hosting these raids that you will do like 2 damage to is as the host you get that guaranteed red chest. The red chest on an Omega boss is pretty much guaranteed to have something good, I think the worst thing you can get is 1 Omega Anima which is still useful. Most of the time the chest will have SR Magna Weapons (their skill is labeled as M and everything you look up about them + the bosses will be called Magnas but I'm calling the actual bosses Omegas for this part since that's what the client calls them in the raid list) but there is supposedly a ~10% to get an SSR weapon or SSR summon of that boss.

When you get bigger and buffer you can start up Omega raids and take em down to 50% yourself before sending out the call for help, giving you twice the number of red chests and so better chances at loot.

Why am I grinding these stupid bosses?

If you didn't start with a Lucifer or Bahamut, you want to get started on leveling an SSR Magna (switching to the Japanese term now since everyone still uses them) and of course the coveted SSR Weapons.

however

There is a catch to those weapons you grind at 3% drop rate for. Some of them actually suck. Yeah if your weapon grid is full of random crap then you take what stats you can get. Going back to Tiamat:



Much like any respectable Japanese mobage, the only thing that matters is damage. In this case the ideal setup would be to have a whole bunch of Tiamat Fists for that Large (6%) bonus. If you look down though, you'll see that Guns have a Medium (3%) and a Light bonus (1%). The Guns are actually the best but that's only when you are way, way, way higher leveled in the game since they need level 120 to even unlock that second bonus. Haha nevermind only Light has to deal with their double dipping weapon needing level 120. Keep the Health weapons around though because you can use them to skill up your good weapons.

The Red chests (and even just the random drops from assisting on Omega raids) will very frequently have SR weapons. Which is fine because they still give you Damage bonuses unlike the SSR Health bonus lemons. You'll end up with an entire grid full of Magna weapons with attack bonuses and suddenly you're approaching end game and do way more damage than before.

So why does Light and Dark suck to farm? Well...



As you can see the vast majority of their drops aren't +Damage which is to compensate for the fact that they are both a more universally useful element. So instead of getting to rely on SR weapons to even out the early-mid game you gotta go balls to the wall farming SSR weapons and suffer the entire time through.

On a side note the Luminiera Axe is pretty unique in that it's actually a really good weapon for Water teams, just don't equip it to your main character because that will turn you Light.

Eej fucked around with this message at 03:12 on May 6, 2016

Potsticker
Jan 14, 2006


When is it better to have a MLB Omega SR over a not fully starred SSR? Assuming my Summon choices are a MLB Omega Colossus and a not fully starred Ifrit?

Omega Colo has been very stingy with weapon drops, but very free with Summons, the only SSR weapons I have from him is one Katana, plus one Staff (SL 6) I bought with emblems. I do however have for SRs two MLB Daggers(SL 5 & 4), two MLB Fists, one MLB Piton (SL 5), and one each of all not yet full starred. I also have an array of 0-starred SSR character weapons and a 1-starred Ifrit Spear.

Now from reading guides I know I want about 5-7 Omega weapons in my pool, but I'm not sure how I can figure out how to best maximize my damage right now. The Total ATK shown doesn't seem to work in all these bonuses (unless I'm wrong here?) so I'm not sure if I should be running my five MLB SR Omega weapons with the SSR Staff and then the rest being the Ifrit Spear, MLB Flohrenberk and two character weapons (Percy and Aliza's seem to be the best, but maybe Magisa's instead because it's also a staff?)

Or do I just let the Auto Select fill me with the best ATK I have right now and run Ifrit with Ifrit or Athena friends?

cathead
Jan 21, 2004

Potsticker posted:

When is it better to have a MLB Omega SR over a not fully starred SSR? Assuming my Summon choices are a MLB Omega Colossus and a not fully starred Ifrit?

Omega Colo has been very stingy with weapon drops, but very free with Summons, the only SSR weapons I have from him is one Katana, plus one Staff (SL 6) I bought with emblems. I do however have for SRs two MLB Daggers(SL 5 & 4), two MLB Fists, one MLB Piton (SL 5), and one each of all not yet full starred. I also have an array of 0-starred SSR character weapons and a 1-starred Ifrit Spear.

Now from reading guides I know I want about 5-7 Omega weapons in my pool, but I'm not sure how I can figure out how to best maximize my damage right now. The Total ATK shown doesn't seem to work in all these bonuses (unless I'm wrong here?) so I'm not sure if I should be running my five MLB SR Omega weapons with the SSR Staff and then the rest being the Ifrit Spear, MLB Flohrenberk and two character weapons (Percy and Aliza's seem to be the best, but maybe Magisa's instead because it's also a staff?)

Or do I just let the Auto Select fill me with the best ATK I have right now and run Ifrit with Ifrit or Athena friends?

This calculator might be helpful. You can get a better translation than google translate by pasting the crap in this pastebin into the console of Chrome Developer Mode (F12).

It allows you to plug in all your stuff and then you can play with different summons or weapon changes and save or load different sets to get a comparison.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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There's a calculator floating around out there but the general rule of thumb is that a 1* SSR is better than a fully uncapped SR. The attack stat in your party screen doesn't take into account skill bonuses so don't rely on that.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that Athenas are still your best bet right now though.

Potsticker
Jan 14, 2006


cathead posted:

This calculator might be helpful. You can get a better translation than google translate by pasting the crap in this pastebin into the console of Chrome Developer Mode (F12).

It allows you to plug in all your stuff and then you can play with different summons or weapon changes and save or load different sets to get a comparison.

Thanks. I've been messing around with this a bit, but I feel like I'm not 100% on the terms. Unknown is for event items and summons, right? And Zeus is for something like if I had Agni? And setting the skills for weapons I want to set the first one to be the Might boost and the second to be Magna? Or do Magna and Magna II correspond to Medium and High boosts on their own?

Eej posted:

There's a calculator floating around out there but the general rule of thumb is that a 1* SSR is better than a fully uncapped SR. The attack stat in your party screen doesn't take into account skill bonuses so don't rely on that.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that Athenas are still your best bet right now though.

Maybe I should just set up two party presets with the two different weapon pools and try it out on Tia Hard or something and see if the difference is noticeable. Actually. I'm going to do just that. I can spare the 1/2 pot.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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Here is the big thread on weapon mechanics.

The takeaway is basically this:

Total Damage = Base Damage * Magna Weapon * Magna Last Stand * Normal Weapon * Normal Last Stand * Unknown * Elemental

"Last Stand" is a different kind of attack bonus that some weapons have that do more damage based on how low your HP is.

So if you're looking at like 20% bonus damage from Magna then you get something like for 2x 100% Magna summons: 1 + (20% * 2) = 1.4x damage

Athena is 80% Elemental so with a Magna + Colossus you're looking at your Magna modifier just being 1.2x and then that is multiplied by 1.8 via Athena giving you 2.16x.

Basically the easiest way is to add up all the percent boosts you're getting from your Magna weapons and do some napkin math from there. Small, Medium and Large boosts are 1%, 3% and 6% respectively and each additional skill level is a flat 1%.

Potsticker
Jan 14, 2006


Well, as far as I can tell, it doesn't actually matter that much which I go with right now.

I ended up doing Tia Hard three times because I couldn't get the exact same summons to show up between attempt 1 and 2. Both times I used Aether Blast II immediately and noted the damage, then attacked and noted the damage on the first swing. After that I then engaged the boss as normal to beat it.


Team 1: Colo SR weapons instead of Character SSRs, MLB Colo Summon
Team 2: Autoselect weapons with 40% Ifrit Summon

Attempt 1: Team 1 + friend's 40% Ifrit because there were no other Colo summons to choose from
Aether Blast did 45,000 damage, first swing did about 8100

Attempt 2: Team 2 + rando 60% Ifrit because there were no other 40% Ifrits (Even though my friends list showed 2 friends for the first battle? What happened to my other friend?)
Aether Blast did 54,000 damage, first swing did about 8700

Well, that seems like it's obviously better to just go with the flat attack boost, but I waiting a couple of minutes I had enough AP to make a third attempt, so I tried to get closer data.

Attempt 3: Team 1 + friend's 60% Ifrit
Aether Blast did 55,000 damage, first swing did about 8700


Sooo, it seems that at least if I'm picking Athena or Ifrit for the support summon it doesn't really matter which weapon setup I go with. At the very least they're close enough in equivalency that it's going to be negligible when attempting the most difficult stuff I'm tackling.

Souplesse
May 31, 2011

Gentlemoas.

Potsticker posted:

(Even though my friends list showed 2 friends for the first battle? What happened to my other friend?)
Borrowing from friends has a cooldown, just like irl.

Potsticker
Jan 14, 2006


Caffeine IV posted:

Borrowing from friends has a cooldown, just like irl.

Right, but if I have two friends showing with the same summon, I should've been able to use one right after the other, no?

Drakes
Jul 18, 2007

Why my bullets no hit?

Eej posted:

omega magna guide

Occasionally they will have 1/2 resource events for magna raids, half the ap to host or half bp to join'em. Best to horde resources for those. And tiamat bolt doesn't need lvl 120 for its 2nd skill, drat wind has the good stuff.

Rainuwastaken
Oct 30, 2012

Another blue ribbon for Hecarim.
Could I get an invite to Arcadia? ID is 10972129, thanks much.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

Drakes posted:

Occasionally they will have 1/2 resource events for magna raids, half the ap to host or half bp to join'em. Best to horde resources for those. And tiamat bolt doesn't need lvl 120 for its 2nd skill, drat wind has the good stuff.

Oh haha woops, guess it's just Light that gets the big grind again! :shepicide:

Sizup
Nov 25, 2008


How are you guys making such huge gains in poker, or I guess how much are you betting per hand? I usually end up with like a double 2 pair or a triple and the profit even with several double ups is pretty small. I made way more just randomly winning 10 man bingo once then my small poker gains.

Crono S. Magnum
Feb 29, 2008

Sizup posted:

How are you guys making such huge gains in poker, or I guess how much are you betting per hand? I usually end up with like a double 2 pair or a triple and the profit even with several double ups is pretty small. I made way more just randomly winning 10 man bingo once then my small poker gains.

The secret is that you start small. Get maybe 400 chips from just picking them up off the floor or buying them. Go into 10 chip bets and just play like a robot. Once you hit 10k chips, switch up to 100 chip hands.

Souplesse
May 31, 2011

Gentlemoas.

Sizup posted:

How are you guys making such huge gains in poker, or I guess how much are you betting per hand? I usually end up with like a double 2 pair or a triple and the profit even with several double ups is pretty small. I made way more just randomly winning 10 man bingo once then my small poker gains.
Volume. Play the 100 room and play double-up to the 50k limit, every time. Try not to walk away with less than 25k-30k from double-up; shouldn't be hard if you keep a bit of a card tally during double-up (cards won't show up twice).

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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Sizup posted:

How are you guys making such huge gains in poker, or I guess how much are you betting per hand? I usually end up with like a double 2 pair or a triple and the profit even with several double ups is pretty small. I made way more just randomly winning 10 man bingo once then my small poker gains.

Keep all pairs.
If you can get a flush with one card go for that, otherwise go for a straight.
If nothing else just pick a card you like and write it off.

Always play double up with two cards.

2-5: High
6-9: Stop
10-A: Low

Remember that the card revealed will become the card you are comparing to if you win this round.

Once you're comfortable with Poker, don't stop until you hit at least 10k. You will lose a lot more but you'll win more chips over time (since you take more risks).

dra600n
May 2, 2014

Rainuwastaken posted:

Could I get an invite to Arcadia? ID is 10972129, thanks much.

Sorry I didn't see your other post.

laith_rem posted:

If there's still a crew open i would like an invite. ID: 9938555

Invites sent.

Potsticker
Jan 14, 2006


I used to go for the limit every time, but now if it's around 12800 or over and I get a 7-9 I just take the money. Gotta feed my omega and pot addiction.

If it's less than that highs for 7, lows for 9 and 8s are a combination of gut feeling and really basic card counting.

nftyw
Dec 27, 2006

It is a game... where you will put your life on the line.
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Potsticker posted:

I used to go for the limit every time, but now if it's around 12800 or over and I get a 7-9 I just take the money. Gotta feed my omega and pot addiction.

If it's less than that highs for 7, lows for 9 and 8s are a combination of gut feeling and really basic card counting.

Every time I see a 9 the next card is a Q, it's 100% not even debatable. Every time I decide to play the odds, I lose, and it's a Q. Every time.

Potsticker
Jan 14, 2006


nftyw posted:

Every time I see a 9 the next card is a Q, it's 100% not even debatable. Every time I decide to play the odds, I lose, and it's a Q. Every time.

I had the K -> A thing happen a lot when I started playing poker. Thankfully it stopped doing it after like a week. The draw into a second draw however still goes on. What are the chances in 11 randomly pulled cards that three of the same value are all in a row? A whole lot less than I hit three of a kind in the five card portion!

Drakes
Jul 18, 2007

Why my bullets no hit?
Annnd incoming star gacha for real monies, don't do it. Always wait for the surprise ticket, the only reason you'd bother is probably for marginally better odds for one of the big 3 summons.

Potsticker
Jan 14, 2006


And May's schedule!

May 13th through the 22nd: Sakura Taisen Collab!

May 23rd through the 30th: Guild War!

May 31st through June 8th: Scenario event!

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

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Drakes posted:

Annnd incoming star gacha for real monies, don't do it. Always wait for the surprise ticket, the only reason you'd bother is probably for marginally better odds for one of the big 3 summons.

What if you just really want SSRs

Valatar
Sep 26, 2011

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My understanding is that the star fest will get you a SSR. But not necessarily a SSR character. Non-character weapons and summons count, as far as the star fest cares. For characters, wait for a surprise ticket where you can just pick one, or the legend fest at the end of the month that does boost character odds.

Teslavi
May 28, 2006
Ridiculous.
Non-character SSR weapons don't exist in the gacha anymore. The only danger in star gacha is rolling a dupe.

Drakes
Jul 18, 2007

Why my bullets no hit?

Eej posted:

What if you just really want SSRs

Bad value since theres nothing really special and you ain't cherry picking someone you like or has a 5* LB. While you can still roll dupes, but if you got the money to throw away go for it I guess.

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Tsurupettan
Mar 26, 2011

My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

can someone explain the value of the Sakura Taisen collab for me?

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