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Rhesus Pieces posted:https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/728297587418247168 One of my old high school acquaintances who has recently become pro-Trump (After spending months railing against him) posted this tweet and commented that it seemed, "Genuine. Flawed, but genuine." So I guess he is managing to convince some people? Of course he then went on to rail against Hillary for another two paragraphs so he probably wasn't exactly an independent to begin with but apparently the Trump pivot is working on some people!
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WampaLord posted:Another great feature is that the test scores are used as a way of doling out budget to the schools, with high-grading schools getting more money and low-grading schools getting less. I don't loving understand why liberals have such a hard-on for rewarding failure and punishing innovation. If you aren't achieving impact with your current methods, change your goddamn methods.
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May 6, 2016 01:11
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My Imaginary GF posted:I don't loving understand why liberals have such a hard-on for rewarding failure and punishing innovation. If you aren't achieving impact with your current methods, change your goddamn methods. Changing methods requires money. If a school gets less money, the most likely methods they can change to are less effective ones. Money isn't just a reward, it's a tool and a requirement for many actions and abilities, and "punishing failure" by taking away tools for success is nonsensical. Maybe if you were talking about administrator salaries or something, it'd make sense, but you're talking about schools' functioning budgets. EDIT: and also lol at standardized tests being a useful measure of a school's innovation or effectiveness. and also hi MIGF, nice to see you back. Ditocoaf fucked around with this message at 01:23 on May 6, 2016 |
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Do we have an over/under on the number of pundits that are going to get kicked off of the Op-Ed pieces for newspapers yet?WhiskeyJuvenile posted:i used blu to quit smoking ... -how-? I switched to VUSE to get around my half a pack a day habit and I can't tell if I'm actually using it less or not.
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Person Dyslexic posted:One of my old high school acquaintances who has recently become pro-Trump (After spending months railing against him) Is this guy the easily suggestible type? Has he been involved in cults? Has he tried to sell you cutlery or vacuum cleaners lately?
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May 6, 2016 01:18
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He probably can't pivot enough to win but he can reclaim suburban whites and bring make the election close enough that his rhetoric is made a conservative pillar and just shunts the whole country further to the right.
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May 6, 2016 01:20
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Person Dyslexic posted:One of my old high school acquaintances who has recently become pro-Trump (After spending months railing against him) posted this tweet and commented that it seemed, "Genuine. Flawed, but genuine." So I guess he is managing to convince some people? Is your friend Hispanic? Is he 14 million Hispanic voters? If not then that's hardly evidence this is having the desired effect.
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May 6, 2016 01:24
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Person Dyslexic posted:One of my old high school acquaintances who has recently become pro-Trump (After spending months railing against him) posted this tweet and commented that it seemed, "Genuine. Flawed, but genuine." So I guess he is managing to convince some people? So was Bernie Madoff upto the last days...
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May 6, 2016 01:28
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Ditocoaf posted:Changing methods requires money. If a school gets less money, the most likely methods they can change to are less effective ones. Money isn't just a reward, it's a tool and a requirement for many actions and abilities, and "punishing failure" by taking away tools for success is nonsensical. Maybe if you were talking about administrator salaries or something, it'd make sense, but you're talking about schools' functioning budgets. Figure out a loving way to introduce new methods in a sustainable manner. Yeah, its more work. So loving what? I'm doing it, so can your organization. Maybe if your org doesn't want to, your funding should be cut and given to a more deserving org like mine.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTfbBvIEbfA Another good watch - consider Trump and the Dark Enlightenment
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Ditocoaf posted:Changing methods requires money. If a school gets less money, the most likely methods they can change to are less effective ones. Money isn't just a reward, it's a tool and a requirement for many actions and abilities, and "punishing failure" by taking away tools for success is nonsensical. Maybe if you were talking about administrator salaries or something, it'd make sense, but you're talking about schools' functioning budgets. Like, why the gently caress are schools paying textbook publishers anything when curriculum could be developed in-house in a method which addresses real-world problems in order to make the school some gently caress'n money?
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My Imaginary GF posted:What else were you expecting from Trudeau's Canada? The question your government should be asking is, "What policies result in the lowest public expenditures over 10 and 20 years, taking kids or keeping them in place?" Until you ask that question, you just gonna throw away your money and create a whole lotta hurt in the process. Situation began under Harper. Underlying situation predates MacDonald.
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Another thought regarding the 'Jerry Building' video - one-party states are certainly bad, but are two parties much better? I'm thinking about writing in 'Yang Wenli' for president in November.
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Hodgepodge posted:Situation began under Harper. Underlying situation predates MacDonald. Right. As I said, what the gently caress else would one expect from a Trudeau government?
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Edmund Lava posted:Is your friend Hispanic? Is he 14 million Hispanic voters? If not then that's hardly evidence this is having the desired effect. No but strangely enough he is married to one. Pretty sure the military broke his mind years ago though so Trump is just the end result.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Right. As I said, what the gently caress else would one expect from a Trudeau government? Excellent hair, of course.
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May 6, 2016 01:42
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Person Dyslexic posted:No but strangely enough he is married to one. Pretty sure the military broke his mind years ago though so Trump is just the end result. Soon enough, the touch of He Who Walks In Nightmares will claim us all. Trump 2016! Edit: although really, I guess that's more of a Cruz ad.
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My Imaginary GF posted:I don't loving understand why liberals have such a hard-on for rewarding failure and punishing innovation. If you aren't achieving impact with your current methods, change your goddamn methods. Because when schools fail it is almost always because they have structural problems that cost more money to fix. For example, rural schools have to pay *more* because teachers don't want to live in rural areas. Schools with collapsing infrastructure need more money for repairs, etc. Google "corridor of shame"
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My Imaginary GF posted:Like, why the gently caress are schools paying textbook publishers anything when curriculum could be developed in-house in a method which addresses real-world problems in order to make the school some gently caress'n money? Save money by making the kids do chores around the school!
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From middle or junior high school you should start building a profile or a portfolio of knowledge, skills, and certifications. Everyone should be an equal 'independent contractor' in the 21st century economy. Without a top-down restructuring of how we approach education and employment the global economy will continue down a dire path of misallocated resources. But down that road there is a dangled carrot - immortality through digital or medical means. One day a privileged few will have the money to eat the apple of immortality and be more than homo sapiens, but make no mistake they will still be very human beings.
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McDowell posted:From middle or junior high school you should start building a profile or a portfolio of knowledge, skills, and certifications. Everyone should be an equal 'independent contractor' in the 21st century economy. Without a top-down restructuring of how we approach education and employment the global economy will continue down a dire path of misallocated resources. I liked you better when you were ranting about God rather than whatever this hot bullshit is.
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May 6, 2016 02:08
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WampaLord posted:I liked you better when you were ranting about God rather than whatever this hot bullshit is. In Genesis once Adam and Eve receive knowledge and can commit sin, what fruit is denied to them?
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DemeaninDemon posted:Save money by making the kids do chores around the school! Save money by orientating your entire curriculum around solving real-world problems in a profitable manner, and eliminating all the loving useless and pointless busy work we have students do now.
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McDowell posted:In Genesis once Adam and Eve receive knowledge and can commit sin, what fruit is denied to them? Hopefully the Apple, so they won't be able to post.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Because when schools fail it is almost always because they have structural problems that cost more money to fix. For example, rural schools have to pay *more* because teachers don't want to live in rural areas. Schools with collapsing infrastructure need more money for repairs, etc. gently caress that. I don't want to pay for the breakfast of some poor's brood. /sarcasm I just remembered a conversation I had in college about how the tea party would destroy the Republican party from the inside by taking them further right, when Republicans should be moving left because of changing demographics. In the present, my step-dad thinks Trump will win the general election. He also thinks Ben Carson was the 2nd best candidate and would win the general election of Trump would not have shown up. My step-dad is a nice man, but his politics utterly baffle me. He really needs to stop following Fox news.
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McDowell posted:In Genesis once Adam and Eve receive knowledge and can commit sin, what fruit is denied to them? Durians. People who like the flavor of Durians are related to the tribe of Cain's wife.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Save money by orientating your entire curriculum around solving real-world problems in a profitable manner, and eliminating all the loving useless and pointless busy work we have students do now. Busy work teaches the life skill of putting up with bullshit work well below your talent level because your boss said so.
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McDowell posted:In Genesis once Adam and Eve receive knowledge and can commit sin, what fruit is denied to them? I liked Assassin's Creed too, at least, until Unity came out.
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Fojar38 posted:A cartoon was posted of Donald Trump getting assfucked by a donkey and barely anyone noticed it Mr tiny hands
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:My step-dad is a nice man, but his politics utterly baffle me. One of my dear, lovely female family members is pro-Whoever The Republican Candidate Is and has hated Hillary with a slightly demented vengeance since the 1990s. I don't know why I thought Trump would be a bridge too far for her. It wasn't.  ...I don't quite understand this very particular strain of Hillary hate. One of my friends has suggested that it comes from the sometimes complicated relationship women have with other powerful women? I suspect it's more a permanent case of Schlafly Syndrome ("we were better off in the kitchen!") but the Boomer housewife mindset is just alien to me.
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Combed Thunderclap posted:Hopefully the Apple, so they won't be able to post. Fantastic.
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DemeaninDemon posted:Busy work teaches the life skill of putting up with bullshit work well below your talent level because your boss said so. Do we want kids who are talentless hacks, or do we want our kids to be their own bosses?
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DemeaninDemon posted:Busy work teaches the life skill of putting up with bullshit work well below your talent level because your boss said so. Why do we do this to each other? This is existential BDSM. I recently picked up this Raymond Williams book and early on was struck by some declaration in the 60's or 70's that we are entering 'unconscious' modernity. Life is more than checklists, assembly lines, and performance targets. Look at how poorly our education system prepares people for MLMs, workplace abuses, and medical quackery. The USA is on the same road as the USSR. Maybe we'll get the NSF and UNATCO.
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McDowell posted:This is existential BDSM. My safe word is sehnsucht.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Do we want kids who are talentless hacks, or do we want our kids to be their own bosses? There are people who don't see the issue with everyone being the boss shaping policy as we speak, aren't there?
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Hodgepodge posted:There are people who don't see the issue with everyone being the boss shaping policy as we speak, aren't there? How many national parks were created by men willing to do meaningless bullshit until it blinds them? None. National parks were created by self-starters who worked a lot harder and did things a lot smarter, men like John Muir.
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Standardized testing is clearly imperfect but it seems to work fine in other countries and unlike something like vouchers, I'm unaware of any spoiler effects that might make them uniquely terrible in the states. What's wrong with them, aside from wishy washy feel good poo poo? Most of the arguments against them that I've seen are coming from teachers and more represents frustration with the erosion of teacher privilege and teacher wages. Those are things worth fighting for but, again, are present in other countries with standardized tests. It seems like another part of the culture war that ignores more substantive economic issues.
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Those worthy of being the boss will see past the busy work, put in their time, and earn their way up the ladder. Those who lack that ability do not deserve becoming the boss.
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McDowell posted:From middle or junior high school you should start building a profile or a portfolio of knowledge, skills, and certifications. Everyone should be an equal 'independent contractor' in the 21st century economy. Without a top-down restructuring of how we approach education and employment the global economy will continue down a dire path of misallocated resources. Alpha Centauri?
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Shbobdb posted:Standardized testing is clearly imperfect but it seems to work fine in other countries and unlike something like vouchers, I'm unaware of any spoiler effects that might make them uniquely terrible in the states. What's wrong with them, aside from wishy washy feel good poo poo? Most of the arguments against them that I've seen are coming from teachers and more represents frustration with the erosion of teacher privilege and teacher wages. Those are things worth fighting for but, again, are present in other countries with standardized tests. It seems like another part of the culture war that ignores more substantive economic issues. They are one metric, among many. Folk tend to over-rely upon them rather than instituting processes which innovate to raise scores on them. Innovative processes, like opening a community health center in your school. Innovate more, support failures less.
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