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JFairfax posted:yup Someone get on with editing Trump's hair on that guy.
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Firos posted:I think it's just saying that, under the new "everything is back to normal" plans, poor performing schools will be forced to academise. https://twitter.com/BBCVickiYoung/status/728585684366282753 I'd take it that the gov't would pressure Ofsted into rating more state school as sub par in the future and continue on as normal.
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VileLL posted:how could anyone actually justify voting lib dem Also there's a lot of rural constituencies where Labour don't have a hope in hell of getting in, so under FPTP it's better to vote Lib Dem than split the vote and let a Tory in.
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Pissflaps posted:What climate is this? Aggressive press, internal division and widespread distrust of established brands in favour of nationalism. They've done fine considering.
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May 6, 2016 15:39
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Guavanaut posted:Also there's a lot of rural constituencies where Labour don't have a hope in hell of getting in, so under FPTP it's better to vote Lib Dem than split the vote and let a Tory in. This presents a problem for Labour if any by-elections get called in the South West: on one hand, they're obligated to fight by elections wherever they can; on the other, standing aside for the Lib Dems (in exchange for Labour getting a clean run in other battlebus by-elections) presents the best chance of reducing the Tory majority.
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May 6, 2016 15:42
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TinTower posted:This presents a problem for Labour if any by-elections get called in the South West: on one hand, they're obligated to fight by elections wherever they can; on the other, standing aside for the Lib Dems (in exchange for Labour getting a clean run in other battlebus by-elections) presents the best chance of reducing the Tory majority. If Tim Farron wasn't a worthless opportunist I would suggest a Lib-Lab pact.
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ultrabindu posted:https://twitter.com/BBCVickiYoung/status/728585684366282753 Current head of ofstead is the executive officer of an academy and Morgan was reportedly looking for an American to replace him, so I doubt much pressure would be needed.
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Tesseraction posted:Is it really worth burning basically the entire Muslim vote in Britain for it? Realistically how many Muslims were likely to vote Tory anyway? Although oddly one thing Boris did pretty well in his campaigns was wooing the Muslim vote - it probably wasn't enough to be decisive but it was something noted at the time as something no Tory candidate had ever particularly bothered with. Besides even if they managed to somehow magically win them over, the only places Muslims live in sufficient numbers to be politically significant are already Labour strongholds, whereas the kind of people who are likely to come to the Tories if they start bashing Muslims live in much more politically interesting places like Thurrock where grabbing even a couple of dozen away from Labour could be enough to win them the seat. I guarantee you all of this will have been plotted out pretty carefully before they started cribbing moves from the Republican playbook.
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VileLL posted:how could anyone actually justify voting lib dem My dad would never vote Tory cause they're obviously evil but he thinks Labour are somehow more authoritarian than them, also he's a member of CAMRA and has a beard.
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Dabir posted:Also he's a member of CAMRA and has a beard. CAMRA are basically a drinking club for Lib Dems, so…
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Currently Labour and the Tories have lost 24 seats each, with the Lib Dems picking up 30 and UKIP getting 24.
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Tesseraction posted:If Tim Farron wasn't a worthless opportunist I would suggest a Lib-Lab pact. goddamnedtwisto posted:I guarantee you all of this will have been plotted out pretty carefully before they started cribbing moves from the Republican playbook. Dabir posted:My dad would never vote Tory cause they're obviously evil but he thinks Labour are somehow more authoritarian than them, also he's a member of CAMRA and has a beard.
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May 6, 2016 15:58
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Heisenberg1276 posted:Currently Labour and the Tories have lost 24 seats each, with the Lib Dems picking up 30 and UKIP getting 24. Now it's 23 Labour losses to 28 tory ones.
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Guavanaut posted:The majority of Muslims in the US were Republican voters prior to the 9/11 witch hunts. I know that's not the playbook you're referring to, but their rhetoric on traditional family, religion, and hard work, appealed to conservative Muslims. Was there ever a similar thing in the UK or were the Tories more transparently anti-Muslim? Other way, I think - since the Section 28 thing the Tories haven't really done much that you can say would be pitched to appeal specifically to religious conservatives. It's just not anywhere near as profitable politically here as it is there, whereas xenophobia is always a favourite, and they wouldn't want to risk losing two votes to UKIP/BNP to gain one from Labour.
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Rare footage of something decent in the Guardian.quote:When it comes to assessing Labour’s electoral fortunes, Corbyn is treated with all the due process of a 17th-century woman accused of witchcraft and dunked in a river. If she drowns she’s innocent; if she floats she’s guilty and condemned as a witch. Either way the verdict is never in her favour.
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Respect have been completely wiped out. They had five councillors left in 2014, all in Bradford, who were going through a will-they-won't-they phase of resigning then rejoining. One of them joined Labour, and won his election; the other four have been beaten, one by a Lib Dem, one by an Independent, and two by Labour. Tooting will almost certainly be Galloway's last stand. The BNP still hang on by one councillor, by dint of him not being up for election this year. Given he only squeaked through by six votes in 2014, his days are numbered.
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Guavanaut posted:Sometimes worthless opportunists are the best to deal with for temporary pacts. No, no, more authoritarian than the Tories.
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sweek0 posted:I voted Lib Dem with a Labour second preference. They're the party closest to my own ideas and, while I have very mixed feelings about the coalition years, I do believe that they got way too much flack for a minority partner in that government and that they stopped the Tories from doing quite a few bad things. But I'm used to coalitions and I feel like the Brits don't quite view them in the same way I do. thanks for the explanation, definitely helpful and such
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PCC Election Updates: Most places reporting kept the same person (Cleveland, Dorset, Durham, Hertfordshire, Northumbria, Suffolk, Wiltshire). South Yorkshire's previous PCC wasn't standing but stayed Labour. Lincolnshire swapped Independent Alan Hardwick for Conservative Marc Jones. e: West Mercia replaced Independent Bill Longmore with Conservative John-Paul Campion. Two up for Tories. Turnout has tended to be up across the board, between 3-20% Dabir posted:No, no, more authoritarian than the Tories. goddamnedtwisto posted:Other way, I think - since the Section 28 thing the Tories haven't really done much that you can say would be pitched to appeal specifically to religious conservatives. It's just not anywhere near as profitable politically here as it is there, whereas xenophobia is always a favourite, and they wouldn't want to risk losing two votes to UKIP/BNP to gain one from Labour. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 16:38 on May 6, 2016 |
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I'm still hoping that we will all get to use the Nicola Murray chop images shortly
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TinTower posted:CAMRA are basically a drinking club for Lib Dems, so… CAMRA are bad, they hate non-traditional English ales and don't want pubs to be anything but old men's drinking dens, Midlands CAMRA have repeatedly told pubs if they want higher rankings in their local guides they should offer less wine and cocktails, it is no surprise they are all Lib Dems as both are so awful.
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Given how popular Corbyn was in polls, I'm suprised how average Labour did. Though it's clear why if you join up the dots, and you can see the hand of the CIA involved. Obama visits, then Corbyn mysteriously doesn't sweep the board? Given Corbyn's opposition to TPP and Agenda 21, it's obivous that the CIA wouldn't want him to meddle with western captialist (i.e. American) interests. The CIA have a long history of secretly underminding and overthrowing leftist movements, it's the only explaination for why Corbyn's movement didn't sweep the board.
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Is there a graph of how many council seats Labour has over the years? because after Milliband got over 800 I'm not sure how many more can reasonably be on offer.
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StoneOfShame posted:CAMRA are bad, they hate non-traditional English ales and don't want pubs to be anything but old men's drinking dens, Midlands CAMRA have repeatedly told pubs if they want higher rankings in their local guides they should offer less wine and cocktails, it is no surprise they are all Lib Dems as both are so awful. My local CAMRA seems to be heavily Labour run, and has a ballin' selection of wines. Suck it Libailures. OldMemes posted:Given how popular Corbyn was in polls, I'm suprised how average Labour did. Local elections are more about local politicians. Hell, remember half the councils supported Not-Corbyn in the leadership contests.
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OldMemes posted:Given how popular Corbyn was in polls, I'm suprised how average Labour did. Though it's clear why if you join up the dots, and you can see the hand of the CIA involved. Obama visits, then Corbyn mysteriously doesn't sweep the board? Given Corbyn's opposition to TPP and Agenda 21, it's obivous that the CIA wouldn't want him to meddle with western captialist (i.e. American) interests. Hey, they undermined the Labour party before, why not do it again!
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Gary Younge is a fantastic columnist and he's wasted at the Graun. He's an always-read column for me.
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Given the wide spread reports of men wearing black suits with American accents hassling voters outside stattions (a story completely ignored by the mainstream media), the CIA were probably invovled.
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/728613572037726208 I'm imagining this like the Commons with the Lib Dem on one side being heckled by 95 Labour councillors on the other.
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OldMemes posted:Given the wide spread reports of men wearing black suits with American accents hassling voters outside stattions (a story completely ignored by the mainstream media), the CIA were probably invovled. Uh huh
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pointsofdata posted:well yes if you ignore the places labour did badly then they did pretty well! I thought corbyn was meant to win back left wing Scotland from the nationalists http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-36227731 The BBC has a wonderful article up about Scotland. "Scottish Labour leaders may ask themselves whether Jeremy Corbyn's leadership was a factor in the Holyrood election result" it says under a big picture of Corbyn, and implies he might have been an issue in the opening few paragraphs. Then it goes on to say that no, he had no adverse affect at all.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Then it goes on to say that no, he had no adverse affect at all. Can you quote that bit from the article please? I must be having an episode as I can't see it anywhere.
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OldMemes posted:Given how popular Corbyn was in polls, I'm suprised how average Labour did. Though it's clear why if you join up the dots, and you can see the hand of the CIA involved. Obama visits, then Corbyn mysteriously doesn't sweep the board? Given Corbyn's opposition to TPP and Agenda 21, it's obivous that the CIA wouldn't want him to meddle with western captialist (i.e. American) interests. Or maybe it's because very few supporters of any political party give a flying gently caress about local elections? I dunno, your explanation is plausible too.
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Pissflaps posted:Can you quote that bit from the article please? I must be having an episode as I can't see it anywhere. Can it be the triumphal final episode?
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Pissflaps posted:Can you quote that bit from the article please? I must be having an episode as I can't see it anywhere. The next sentence after the Corbyn question doesn't say he had no effect at all but cuts to the main point of the article being that Labour did so badly in Scotland because the SNP are the independence party and the Tories are the unionists. quote:But arguments over their manifesto or personalities are to miss the point. This election was clearly about the constitution.
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Fans posted:I'm glad the explanation satisfies even you. Mods shouldn't be editing posts they disagree with imo
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Baron Corbyn posted:The next sentence after the Corbyn question doesn't say he had no effect at all but cuts to the main point of the article being that Labour did so badly in Scotland because the SNP are the independence party and the Tories are the unionists. Ah so the conclusion given by Jakiri that Corbyn had 'no adverse affect at all' is his own, rather than the BBC's.
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Does anyone actually think that the ant-semitism thing is real? A key part of CIA run black ops is planting targets to spread misinformation. Corbyn is the only person in UK politics who can expose the truth behind TTP, Agenda 21, HAARP and the Gloabl banking Elite. Of course CIA imperialists would want to discredit him, with a wave of propogand, misinformation and fluroide inducing brain washing.
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OldMemes posted:Given how popular Corbyn was in polls, I'm suprised how average Labour did. Though it's clear why if you join up the dots, and you can see the hand of the CIA involved. Obama visits, then Corbyn mysteriously doesn't sweep the board? Given Corbyn's opposition to TPP and Agenda 21, it's obivous that the CIA wouldn't want him to meddle with western captialist (i.e. American) interests. Lol
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OldMemes posted:Does anyone actually think that the ant-semitism thing is real?
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Guavanaut posted:It's very real my friend. Stay safe. This file is probably full of captialist CIA lies.
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