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Yes he is. That really makes me wonder if it's really a joke anymore?
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# ? May 6, 2016 17:02 |
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:Yes he is. That really makes me wonder if it's really a joke anymore? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wdunM5XZwo
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# ? May 6, 2016 17:54 |
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McDowell posted:I wonder what kind of weird 1984 technoslavery we'll have once the whole country is digital native. You act like people aren't already technoslaves, look at the number of idiots tethered to a smartphone 24/7, whether it's personal or work. Browse the web on your phone, talk on your phone, text while driving/eating/watching movies/etc. And that doesn't even get into the realm of addiction to electronic games by people who have no lives. People are slaves to tech and either don't realize it, or don't care...not sure which is more scary, honestly.
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# ? May 6, 2016 18:26 |
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Ozz81 posted:You act like people aren't already technoslaves, look at the number of idiots tethered to a smartphone 24/7, whether it's personal or work. Browse the web on your phone, talk on your phone, text while driving/eating/watching movies/etc. And that doesn't even get into the realm of addiction to electronic games by people who have no lives. People are slaves to tech and either don't realize it, or don't care...not sure which is more scary, honestly. I almost never play computer games or any games really ever these days, but hoo boy didnt my wife like to get on my case about being starved of attention when I would be playing battlefield or something, meanwhile she is and has always been glued to her phone. I never saw them as different but she definitely does.
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# ? May 6, 2016 18:57 |
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EX250 Type R posted:I almost never play computer games or any games really ever these days, but hoo boy didnt my wife like to get on my case about being starved of attention when I would be playing battlefield or something, meanwhile she is and has always been glued to her phone. I never saw them as different but she definitely does. Same thing here... I think it's not a conscious act on her part, but if my wife's fooling around on her phone and I pick up mine, she'll put hers down and then want attention.
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# ? May 6, 2016 19:20 |
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No one likes to be ignored, and still using the smartphone is perceived like willfull detachment from surrounding people. I'm reading Generation 64, a really great book about Commodore's reign in Sweden and people being influenced by it, and on nearly every page there is a mention that computers were often another way to meet and socialize with other geeks, forming computer clubs and demoparties, just to know new people with shared interest of toying with the computer. Nowadays everyone has a computer in their pocket, social media are all the rage, yet it seems there are more trouble because of it.
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# ? May 6, 2016 19:32 |
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oohhboy posted:Since we are talking about bad MS decision making, Windows 10 pro will not be allowed to block the Windows 10 Store. Microsoft said it had made the change "by design". Oh that is amazing. I can hear the collective groans of every IT department across the country, I can feel the wind generated by the shaking of heads I'm guessing there's still got to be some way to block it, maybe via AD policy or... something? I guess they could block it at the network level maybe, like people block the telemetry stuff. What a pain though.
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# ? May 6, 2016 19:49 |
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laserghost posted:No one likes to be ignored, and still using the smartphone is perceived like willfull detachment from surrounding people. When having a computer was a quirk of some hobbyists, you could socialize around it. Nowadays it's not a hobby, it's not interesting, it's just the norm, and you can drown in the sheer volume of information being exchanged on a casual basis. Also in the past you had to physically exchange information if you wanted to deal with fellow enthusiasts. Even if you just mailed floppies around or whatever, it was still more intimate and social than the fully electronic communication you have today.
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# ? May 6, 2016 20:29 |
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Ozz81 posted:You act like people aren't already technoslaves, look at the number of idiots tethered to a smartphone 24/7, whether it's personal or work. Browse the web on your phone, talk on your phone, text while driving/eating/watching movies/etc. And that doesn't even get into the realm of addiction to electronic games by people who have no lives. People are slaves to tech and either don't realize it, or don't care...not sure which is more scary, honestly. You're just getting old. If you had been born in the 1800s you'd be ranting about how those darn newspapers are ruining society because everyone on the train has their face buried in one instead of
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# ? May 6, 2016 20:44 |
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Guy Mann posted:You're just getting old. If you had been born in the 1800s you'd be ranting about how those darn newspapers are ruining society because everyone on the train has their face buried in one instead of This is the worst argument ever.
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# ? May 6, 2016 21:18 |
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Really though, how is sending a box "more social" than instant worldwide communication? It's more personal, maybe. Intimate, ok sure. You could even make an argument for it being "better" in a quality sense but I don't see "more" as an option there. Yeah I used to send letters too. You're basically talking to the letter itself, not the person. It's nice that you end up with a box of old letters, but you can read an IM log too if you want. IM gets you closer to the actual person in a real conversation anyway, since there's less "what should I say" downtime involved. You talk to nearly the real live person instead of a frozen-in-time, prepared image of a person. Perhaps the magic of "oh poo poo another idiot into the same idiot stuff I am!" is gone these days but eh.
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# ? May 6, 2016 21:23 |
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steinrokkan posted:This is the worst argument ever. Why? If people aren't staring at their phones, they will be reading a newspaper or a book or silently looking out a window. People don't talk to each other and never have.
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# ? May 6, 2016 21:24 |
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Cojawfee posted:Why? If people aren't staring at their phones, they will be reading a newspaper or a book or silently looking out a window. People don't talk to each other and never have. A book or a newspaper isn't a bottomless rabbit hole of data. Though my point was that dismissing an argument just because something similar was said in the past is lazy and dumb.
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# ? May 6, 2016 21:27 |
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steinrokkan posted:A book or a newspaper isn't a bottomless rabbit hole of data. "Stupid millennials buried in their phones" is a stupid argument made by old people who hate anything new. People have been finding ways to ignore the people around them since the dawn of time. Complaining that the current young people use the latest technology to do what everyone has always done is idiotic. Technology isn't to blame for societies ills any more than the written word itself is.
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# ? May 6, 2016 21:40 |
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i just wanted to make it clear, not that i really should have to justify myself to somebody who thinks windows 10 is good, but i was talking about the frontend/ui aspects of it. os are hard to make and there is some good stuff under the hood but who gives a poo poo when the only way to drive it is through consistently terrible, non-unified gui? that's the reason so many people like os x.
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# ? May 6, 2016 21:55 |
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Hey maybe there is a reason literally everyone around the world, regardless of age, ethnicity, culture, and creed complain about how everybody got they noses glued to a telephone screen. Maybe there is something about that we find repellent, in how it is fundamentally altering the way we communicate with each other. Maybe people find these changes unpleasant and undesirable.....but we can't change it, we are being swallowed up in the gaping maw of change and we ourselves are part-and-parcel of this very change. Maybe... just maybe.. the world isn't the better for being able to instantly google image search a picture of rasputin's weird penis or being able to play anger birds or watch a movie or whatever.
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# ? May 6, 2016 22:00 |
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The Something Awful Forums > GBS 4.1 > Computer Relics: Windows 10 and the Human Condition
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Cojawfee posted:"Stupid millennials buried in their phones" is a stupid argument made by old people who hate anything new. People have been finding ways to ignore the people around them since the dawn of time. Complaining that the current young people use the latest technology to do what everyone has always done is idiotic. Technology isn't to blame for societies ills any more than the written word itself is. People and technology, you must be critical of the latter if you want to inspire a critical approach in the former. Also let starwar drop the truth bomb 8 track betamax posted:Hey maybe there is a reason literally everyone around the world, regardless of age, ethnicity, culture, and creed complain about how everybody got they noses glued to a telephone screen. Maybe there is something about that we find repellent, in how it is fundamentally altering the way we communicate with each other. Maybe people find these changes unpleasant and undesirable.....but we can't change it, we are being swallowed up in the gaping maw of change and we ourselves are part-and-parcel of this very change. Maybe... just maybe.. the world isn't the better for being able to instantly google image search a picture of rasputin's weird penis or being able to play anger birds or watch a movie or whatever.
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# ? May 6, 2016 22:15 |
Light Gun Man posted:Really though, how is sending a box "more social" than instant worldwide communication? It's more personal, maybe. Intimate, ok sure. You could even make an argument for it being "better" in a quality sense but I don't see "more" as an option there. When my grandma died, my dad went on a quest to unearth all the hidden relics of her life, all the old photos from her youth, all the scraps of genealogy he could scrape together. He found boxes of old letters and postcards that she and her friends had habitually sent each other throughout their first few decades. Without exception they all went like this: quote:Dear Mildred, This was the midwest in the 30s but still. Boxes and boxes and boxes
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Were there any lithographs of boobs?
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# ? May 6, 2016 22:26 |
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Data Graham posted:When my grandma died, my dad went on a quest to unearth all the hidden relics of her life, all the old photos from her youth, all the scraps of genealogy he could scrape together. He found boxes of old letters and postcards that she and her friends had habitually sent each other throughout their first few decades. Without exception they all went like this: Of course these letters were banal as gently caress. But in the end you got functional long-distance friendships. With forums and Twitter you get - and yes, this is a hyperbole! - goonmeets, shitposters and trolls.
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# ? May 6, 2016 22:29 |
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steinrokkan posted:Of course these letters were banal as gently caress. But in the end you got functional long-distance friendships. With forums and Twitter you get - and yes, this is a hyperbole! - goonmeets, shitposters and trolls. If you've never been able to form a lasting friendship with someone over the internet then maybe that might be a personal problem
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# ? May 6, 2016 22:34 |
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ishikabibble posted:If you've never been able to form a lasting friendship with someone over the internet then maybe that might be a personal problem I consider all 14 posters left in GBS to be my only friends.
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# ? May 6, 2016 22:36 |
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Oh poo poo, we're in GBS right now?
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# ? May 6, 2016 22:43 |
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8 track betamax posted:I consider all 14 posters left in GBS to be my only friends. We few, we happy few, we band of brothers...
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steinrokkan posted:Of course these letters were banal as gently caress. But in the end you got functional long-distance friendships. With forums and Twitter you get - and yes, this is a hyperbole! - goonmeets, shitposters and trolls. A goonmeet - even the horrid worst-case ones - is more social than a postcard saying "weather nice, huband still dead".
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# ? May 6, 2016 23:27 |
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I can't SMS a fart, but thanks to tupperware and the finest drat postal service on the planet, I can snail mail a fart.
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8 track betamax posted:Maybe... just maybe.. the world isn't the better for being able to instantly google image search a picture of rasputin's weird penis
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Germstore posted:I can't SMS a fart, but thanks to tupperware and the finest drat postal service on the planet, I can snail mail a fart. Both I and a former coworker of mine who lives across the country were bought an apple watch by our employers when it came out. His first reaction to any kind of mobile tech is "hey, I can do xyz while I take a dump!" The apple watch can send someone your heartbeat with vibrations. He told me he was going to send me his heartbeat while he took a poo poo. A few weeks later I was sitting in a meeting at work and felt an unsolicited th-thump, th-thump, th-thump. I soon realized what this meant. This is how I know humanity's best work is being wasted on its worst generation
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Guy Mann posted:You're just getting old. If you had been born in the 1800s you'd be ranting about how those darn newspapers are ruining society because everyone on the train has their face buried in one instead of However if you were looking for the fear of social decay via new technology (which is a very old theme) there's a cartoon somewhere of a couple sitting under a tree having conversations with each other by telegram - the implication was that people would be lured in by the convenience of shorthand messages that they'd not talk to each other in person. Speed and the lack of detail was a concern as well. quote:Superficial, sudden, unsifted, too fast for the truth, must be all telegraphic intelligence. Does it not render the popular mind too fast for the truth? Ten days bring us the mails from Europe. What need is there for the scraps of news in ten minutes? How trivial and paltry is the telegraphic column?"
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Sir_Charles posted:windows 10 is fine you nerds This needs to be the word filter to every yospos post
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I mean here, just read these http://donteatthefruit.com/2013/06/the-pace-of-modern-life-and-the-loss-of-letter-writing-circa-1900/
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Regular Nintendo posted:Both I and a former coworker of mine who lives across the country were bought an apple watch by our employers when it came out. His first reaction to any kind of mobile tech is "hey, I can do xyz while I take a dump!" I laughed way too hard at this.
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# ? May 7, 2016 01:44 |
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The highest tech anyone needs on the bog is over fifty years old.
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Lowen SoDium posted:Windows 10 Pro is not for professionals. Thanks for clearing that up, Microsoft. It makes a little sense to me: install Pro if the person using the PC is a pro and doesn't need help to not break their PC, whereas locking down a PC seems enterprisey. You just have to think of "enterprise" as "business", not "large business", which I guess isn't what I'm used to. As a pro - not at Windows 10, admittedly, but at lots of other PC stuff - I don't need to be able to stop myself or my wife from accessing the store. I wish there was an option like this somewhere: [X] Whatever the gently caress you're doing in the background that makes my PC run really slow, stop it, I don't care how important you think it is. Don't make me spend ages Googling all these registry and Group Policy changes.
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The best thing in life is having a computer class in 10'th grade on desktops that really were well locked down for the time with Novell and something called Fortres that kept you from switching outside the allowed file extensions, but then finding a link to 16 bit winfile.exe somewhere in the Office 97 helpfiles and proceeding to spend all day errday with sweet sweet Netscape 4.0
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8 track betamax posted:Hey maybe there is a reason literally everyone around the world, regardless of age, ethnicity, culture, and creed complain about how everybody got they noses glued to a telephone screen. Maybe there is something about that we find repellent, in how it is fundamentally altering the way we communicate with each other. Maybe people find these changes unpleasant and undesirable.....but we can't change it, we are being swallowed up in the gaping maw of change and we ourselves are part-and-parcel of this very change. Maybe... just maybe.. the world isn't the better for being able to instantly google image search a picture of rasputin's weird penis or being able to play anger birds or watch a movie or whatever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV0wTtiJygY
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Data Graham posted:I mean here, just read these Pretty much, the one thing that has never changed over the generations is bitching about new things, about kids these days, and about how technology is cheapening life and the human experience. The kids today are going to be saying the same poo poo about holographic virtual reality or direct neural interfaces or whatever.
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I say a variation of this so many times at work every day.
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steinrokkan posted:Of course these letters were banal as gently caress. But in the end you got functional long-distance friendships. With forums and Twitter you get - and yes, this is a hyperbole! - goonmeets, shitposters and trolls. I dunno, I'm an expat and FB is allowing me to keep friendships alive pretty easily. When I went back home for a visit, I had plans set up for half the time I was there in just a few minutes of messaging. And, the entire reason I became an expat is through friends I met on a forum (not this one). Also, Twitter isn't a social network, it's a *broadcast* medium. It's great for breaking news, curating 'listening posts' to get great examples of different points of view delivered to you, and in general, finding good stuff. It's also great for finding worthless poo poo because Sturgeon's law, so it takes a bit of work. You might just be bad at life. Or twenty and whining about being 'an old, old soul' to us real old fucks who are trying hard not to laugh.
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