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havenwaters posted:Yeah you're probably right. Unless AMD punches back in a shocking way (say 1080 power at sub $500 price) Don Lapre posted:Depends on amd xthetenth posted:Pretty much for sure. They're backordered on the big chip's compute card till start of next year, and then once supply builds they're going to milk with the Titan and probably wait a bit after that to release the 1080 Ti unless AMD does something extraordinary with big Vega. Cool. My 980ti is still humming along just fine, doubly so considering I'm still on a 60 Hz monitor @ 1440P. If I can find a non-poo poo 144 Hz IPS monitor it might warrant an upgrade at this time, but those generally come with Gsync which would probably negate the need for an upgrade to begin with. I guess the 1080 is a real upgrade over the 980ti for folks chasing 4K/60?
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I'm so torn on which to get. Do I drop the extra money on the beast or get the cheaper but still massively good card that will probably still run most things at 60+ fps in 1440p. Especially since I'm thinking of splurging on a nice g-sync monitor. 
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Evil Fluffy posted:I'm so torn on which to get. Do I drop the extra money on the beast or get the cheaper but still massively good card that will probably still run most things at 60fps in 1440p. Benchmarks will answer this and those are likely coming very soon. The price spread is exactly like the 970/980 msrps, and the 980 was widely considered not a good deal relative to the 970. I imagine the 1070 might be the star again
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Anti-Hero posted:I guess the 1080 is a real upgrade over the 980ti for folks chasing 4K/60? 1440p/60 isn't a sweat for the 980 Ti today but who knows with next year.
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Anti-Hero posted:Cool. My 980ti is still humming along just fine, doubly so considering I'm still on a 60 Hz monitor @ 1440P. If I can find a non-poo poo 144 Hz IPS monitor it might warrant an upgrade at this time, but those generally come with Gsync which would probably negate the need for an upgrade to begin with. Probably not for 4k/60. Yes for VR.
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Maybe I'll buy a second 980 Ti to SLI for my 21:9:1440p.
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I'm getting a 1070 for 1080p gaming because after limping along with a 660Ti I want overkill for a while. 
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 at the inevitable people who will think you need the 1080 to game at 1080, at least they shouldn't need to upgrade for a while.
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So is the thing done? Is there some place where I can read about the features and poo poo?
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I think that for hobbyist deep learning the 1080 looks pretty awesome. 8 GB should fit pretty much everything except for the super deep and wide CNNs hardly in use by anyone other than those doing computer vision on video / image time series. On the other hand, I think I'll take pretty much literally everything else being better than a Titan X as more than fair. If I need to care that much I'll be on a Pascal Tesla at least. Hell, at this kind of performance and efficiency I think 2x 1080 cards could be justifiable for hobby purposes.
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spasticColon posted:I almost feel sorry for all the people that bought a new 980Ti at full price. Almost. I bought mine last July so I'm pretty satisfied...
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fozzy fosbourne posted:So is the thing done? Is there some place where I can read about the features and poo poo? No, they were literally just announced and it's a Friday night and Tom is probably getting fired.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I bought mine last July so I'm pretty satisfied... Same. I actually looked up my order history after the 1080 reveal to confirm. I'm sure I'll sell the 980Ti for $300 or whatever when the 1080Ti is out next year.
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fozzy fosbourne posted:So is the thing done? Is there some place where I can read about the features and poo poo? http://www.geforce.com/hardware/10series/geforce-gtx-1080
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necrobobsledder posted:I think that for hobbyist deep learning the 1080 looks pretty awesome. 8 GB should fit pretty much everything except for the super deep and wide CNNs hardly in use by anyone other than those doing computer vision on video / image time series. On the other hand, I think I'll take pretty much literally everything else being better than a Titan X as more than fair. If I need to care that much I'll be on a Pascal Tesla at least. Hell, at this kind of performance and efficiency I think 2x 1080 cards could be justifiable for hobby purposes. Do we know if the 1080 supports FP16 at twice the FLOPs like the Pascal Tesla does? That is sort of the killer feature. In terms of raw power, memory bandwidth is pretty important since many NN kernels are memory-bound. NVidia's specs have the 1080 as slightly slower than a Titan X on that front.
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Eyes Only posted:Do we know if the 1080 supports FP16 at twice the FLOPs like the Pascal Tesla does? That is sort of the killer feature. In terms of raw power, memory bandwidth is pretty important since many NN kernels are memory-bound. NVidia's specs have the 1080 as slightly slower than a Titan X on that front. I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't, the fact that the 1080 can do almost as many FP32 FLOPS as the much larger P100 makes me think that the GP104 might be totally dedicated to FP32.
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So why only announce high end stuff, what about people who just want to keep gaming at 1080p until 4k 60fps is mainstream?
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objects in mirror posted:So why only announce high end stuff, what about people who just want to keep gaming at 1080p until 4k 60fps is mainstream? They have a card for that, its called the 970 and itll be available for about $100 in a few months.
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Eyes Only posted:Do we know if the 1080 supports FP16 at twice the FLOPs like the Pascal Tesla does? That is sort of the killer feature. In terms of raw power, memory bandwidth is pretty important since many NN kernels are memory-bound. NVidia's specs have the 1080 as slightly slower than a Titan X on that front.
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Thanks. Here is another thing: http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/a-quantum-leap-in-gaming:-nvidia-introduces-geforce-gtx-1080
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The 970 is already available  Shimrra Jamaane posted:They have a card for that, its called the 970 and itll be available for about $100 in a few months.
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:The 970 is already available For $100? Show me where, and I'll buy one right now. E: Check this out: https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/4i8iro/usacah_evga_980_ti_sc_w_backplate_wpaypallocal/ People are buying 980ti's for more than the 1070 will cost? 
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There are people who haven't gotten the news yet, it'll hover around 300 after a few days.
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Probably bullshit, but the rumor mill sites have been saying May/June is a "paper launch" and there won't be worthwhile quantities around until August.
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Or they're picking one up for 980Ti SLI, which if you can score a second card for $300 ain't a bad deal--figure if you sold your 980Ti for $300 and bought a 1080 for $600, you'd be spending the same $300 and coming out with less horsepower (assuming whatever you play works well with SLI and doesn't loving choke or microstutter or use DX12 or VR or whatever other issues SLI might spring on your poor soul).
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Xae posted:Probably bullshit, but the rumor mill sites have been saying May/June is a "paper launch" and there won't be worthwhile quantities around until August. Well back to "well amd need that happen" but I feel like there have been enough of those squandered by now
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So what does "double the bandwidth" for sli mean, in practice? Has SLI been constrained by bandwidth? E: also wccftech is saying the 1080 has DisplayPort 1.4? Is that even possible yet? fozzy fosbourne fucked around with this message at 06:07 on May 7, 2016 |
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fozzy fosbourne posted:So what does "double the bandwidth" for sli mean, in practice? Has SLI been constrained by bandwidth? Perhaps they are reaching a point where sli is going to be bandwidth limited and preparing for the future? amazed the thing only uses one 8 pin connector.
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Bardeh posted:For $100? Show me where, and I'll buy one right now. ahh, misread your post, whoops!
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fozzy fosbourne posted:So what does "double the bandwidth" for sli mean, in practice? Has SLI been constrained by bandwidth? 1080 specs site on nvidia.com say that it has DisplayPort 1.4. http://www.geforce.com/hardware/10series/geforce-gtx-1080
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Remind me, is Pascal on TSMC's 16nm or Samsung's 14nm process? TSMC, and iirc Polaris will be Samsung (courtesy of GloFo when possible) and Vega is likely TSMC.
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