|
Double vision is so great with the magic lamp as you just crush bosses with your army of hulked-out muscle genies punching the poo poo out of them.
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 02:19
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 31, 2024 15:34 |
|
|
Digirat posted:Double vision is so great with the magic lamp as you just crush bosses with your army of hulked-out muscle genies punching the poo poo out of them. Actually, an army of tigers appearing out of nowhere is more satisfying.
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 02:25
|
|
|
Jibo posted:Magic Lamp and Bait Launcher both work on Dragun. I'm guessing the Compressed Air Tank doesn't work because it has to travel along the ground and he exists over a pit. I had Fat Bullets too, which I put entirely too much faith in after my megasharks destroyed the poo poo out of the kill pillars. (At least that run wasn't all for naught, after never getting wax wings or jetpack on a pilot run I finally got the gunpowder to finish the bullet that can kill the past by loving up on the minecart jumps like 25 times before getting it after getting a Siren from the Trigger Twins)
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 02:28
|
|
|
I've only managed to get the bait gun with shadow bullets before but I imagine any of those weapons would get pretty nuts if you hit up the Pop Pop shrine a few times.
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 02:28
|
|
|
Zorodius posted:If you're a real rear end in a top hat, I mean a total plonker, a pencil-lipped, butter-dipped, shoes-untied poltroon, here's what you can do: You actually don't need to do the juggling thing. The rat only steals an item when you're not in the room. Take one to the door you want to go through and drop it, go pick up the other and carry it through, drop it quickly on the other side, go pick up the first and rush back in case the rat showed up, repeat. You should have enough time for most short halls, but longer halls might prove to be an issue.
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 02:43
|
|
|
You can min-max your ammo drops for weapons that aren't empty yet by not picking up an ammo drop and going one room back, then re-enter the ammo drop room and scaring the rat that appears away. If you scared it off the ammo once, it won't appear until you are two rooms or more away. So now you can clear out the adjacent uncleared rooms with your near-empty gun and afterwards pick up the ammo that dropped. (nerd)
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 02:50
|
|
|
Digirat posted:Double vision is so great Fixed for you. It's way too good an item for something so cheap.
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 02:53
|
|
|
HenryEx posted:You can min-max your ammo drops for weapons that aren't empty yet by not picking up an ammo drop and going one room back, then re-enter the ammo drop room and scaring the rat that appears away. you know, for railgun ammo, it's probably worth it
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 03:21
|
|
|
Carecat posted:Patch Notes Ice cube + good passive is broken as gently caress though, I know double vision recharges faster than you can use it with 0 cigarette uses.
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 05:41
|
|
|
Digirat posted:Double vision is so great with the magic lamp as you just crush bosses with your army of hulked-out muscle genies punching the poo poo out of them. Try to get scattershot with the magic lamp
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 05:54
|
|
|
Today I finally managed to kill the Dragun first the first time and also kill the past for the Marine. Thank you, my trusty Patriot that killed the Dragun's first phase in 500 rounds, and thank you for your service to our country, The Boss. 
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 06:04
|
|
|
The new patch is great, I was getting somewhat discouraged but now that I know how to get ammo to drop I don't have to bother with the starter gun past the second chamber, really. Two Dragun kills in one day, though that's because Proton Pack/Eyepatch/Shock Rounds and Muscle Relaxant/AWP are preposterously deadly combos. Just have do the Pilot and Convict pasts, then Bullet Hell. Any advice for doing the shortcuts beyond just saving everything coin and key you get, selling what you can do without and just assuming that run is pretty much hosed?
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 18:23
|
|
|
Papal Infallibility posted:The new patch is great, I was getting somewhat discouraged but now that I know how to get ammo to drop I don't have to bother with the starter gun past the second chamber, really. Two Dragun kills in one day, though that's because Proton Pack/Eyepatch/Shock Rounds and Muscle Relaxant/AWP are preposterously deadly combos. Just have do the Pilot and Convict pasts, then Bullet Hell. Stack up Curse. The Jammed enemies drop more money, more money = more keys you can buy.
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 18:26
|
|
|
Also play as as the pilot and try to lockpick the entrance to the secret level.
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 18:27
|
|
|
HenryEx posted:Stack up Curse. The Jammed enemies drop more money, more money = more keys you can buy. Yeah just play pilot and pray to the starting shrine. Enjoy taking 20 min to clear a room though with his garbage gun.
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 19:31
|
|
|
I seem to have hit a brick wall on this game (almost literally, one of the problems is Wallmonger). I've died 120 times now and I find it practically impossible to make it past the floor 4 bosses, I find I get drained of all my health and ammo in the hollow and come up against them in the worst shape. For the few times when I've been able to get a good reserve of hearts and ammo they all just loving wreck my poo poo. To the people who are cheating themselves extra keys and/or ammo, did that dramatically help you get over this hump? khwarezm fucked around with this message at 19:43 on May 7, 2016 |
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 19:41
|
|
|
khwarezm posted:I seem to have fit a brick wall on this game (almost literally, one of the problems is Wallmonger). I've died 120 times now and I find it practically impossible to make it past the floor 4 bosses, I find I get drained of all my health and ammo in the hollow and come up against them in the worst shape. For the few times when I've been able to get a good reserve of hearts and ammo they all just loving wreck my poo poo. Cheating in keys is great because it builds your arsenal and lets you save money for hearts and shields if you need to beef them out. That said, Wallmonger is far and away the easiest of the Floor 4 bosses. Stick to one side of the area, all its big attacks can be rolled over and you'll rarely be so pinched that you need to fire off a Blank. If you get the High Priest or the Kill Pillars, well, good fuckin luck.
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 19:44
|
|
|
I can beat the high priest without taking damage but kill pillars is too much chaos and when they jump at you I will always take damage unless I have an invincibility item
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 19:47
|
|
|
khwarezm posted:I seem to have hit a brick wall on this game (almost literally, one of the problems is Wallmonger). I've died 120 times now and I find it practically impossible to make it past the floor 4 bosses, I find I get drained of all my health and ammo in the hollow and come up against them in the worst shape. For the few times when I've been able to get a good reserve of hearts and ammo they all just loving wreck my poo poo. Especially coupled with the ammo bug, the advice of using your starter into level three or swapping to it to kill small guys is what held me back. Use powerful guns, don't save them. Especially on small rooms and bosses. My first winning run was with a sniper rifle with the muscle relaxant which turns it into a one shot gun on pretty much everything and being able to shut down even lowly shotgun kin in a single shot is a much better survival tactic than any amount of dodging.
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 20:17
|
|
|
Nevvy Z posted:No I want the game to be worth the money I paid for it. Do you want some cheese with that whine?
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 21:21
|
|
|
I.N.R.I posted:Do you want some cheese with that whine?
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 21:28
|
|
|
sling owns
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 22:39
|
|
|
Sigma-X posted:Especially coupled with the ammo bug, the advice of using your starter into level three or swapping to it to kill small guys is what held me back. Muscle Relaxant is one of the best passives in the game, especially if you can luck into getting multiple guns that get the damage boost. Even without muscle relaxant, Sniper Rifle is a great room clearer - instant projectiles and limited piercing means you can clear most of a floor quickly and painlessly; Hexagun is even better since even without any upgrades you've still got a decent chance on ANYTHING being an effective one-shot kill. I generally categorize weapons as "Good Boss Killers", "Good Room Clearers", and "Other", and try and make sure that I keep at least one boss killer and one room clearer topped up with ammo. I'll use "Other" weapons frequently to save on ammo for the good room clearers, and don't use good room clearers on bosses or good boss killers clearing rooms - I'll switch to the starter weapon if I have to. You might classify stuff differently, but this generally keeps me in good standing ammo-wise through the Dragun. I haven't been making attempts on Bullet Hell yet, though.
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 23:15
|
|
|
Probably the best two Room Clearers in the game are the Mega Hand and the BSG. BSG is insanely quick and painless, and the Mega Hand will get you through two entire floors without needing an ammo drop, it's insanely efficient. Good Boss Killers are usually Bees and Explosives (cancel enemy bullets), or both in The Stinger.
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 23:24
|
|
|
HenryEx posted:Probably the best two Room Clearers in the game are the Mega Hand and the BSG. BSG is insanely quick and painless, and the Mega Hand will get you through two entire floors without needing an ammo drop, it's insanely efficient. AU Gun and the RC Rocket are right behind Stinger for boss killers imo
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 23:32
|
|
|
Olesh posted:Muscle Relaxant is one of the best passives in the game, especially if you can luck into getting multiple guns that get the damage boost. My most recent run I got muscle relaxant on the first floor and proceeded to get the sniper rifle, AWP, and winchester rifle, plus the unity ring and a handful of other guns, plus a shrine where i turned 1 heart into a damage boost, plus a D20 shrine that gave me haste, and wax wings. That was a hella fun run, had absolutely no trouble with bullet hell and took out the lich fast enough i don't even know what his patterns are.
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 23:32
|
|
|
Power of Pecota posted:AU Gun and the RC Rocket are right behind Stinger for boss killers imo RC Rocket is okay, but shoots up into S++ boss killing tier as soon as you get Angry Bullets on the same run. It's hilarious. It needs to be seen to be believed.
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2016 23:41
|
|
|
My first encounter with the Old King did not go so well. But that was a fun run, actually making it to the Abbey.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2016 00:00
|
|
|
Zodack posted:My first encounter with the Old King did not go so well. But that was a fun run, actually making it to the Abbey. Yeah, he got me too when I got him down to like 10% health  Is it definitely meant to be the case that like half the enemies in the abbey are cursed? Sigma-X posted:Especially coupled with the ammo bug, the advice of using your starter into level three or swapping to it to kill small guys is what held me back. Funny, I took on that advice pretty early, but I still find myself running low on ammo at really bad times. On the flipside I was going through the Gungeon Proper with a Magnum and the game deigned it fit to give an ammo drop every second room. Not in the Hollow though! khwarezm fucked around with this message at 01:27 on May 8, 2016 |
|
#
?
May 8, 2016 00:36
|
|
|
HenryEx posted:Probably the best two Room Clearers in the game are the Mega Hand and the BSG. BSG is insanely quick and painless, and the Mega Hand will get you through two entire floors without needing an ammo drop, it's insanely efficient. I'd like to go ahead and recommend Heroine as well. The clip size is considerably worse than Mega Hand but at full charge it hits very hard, charges faster and has a larger shot to go with it. Ironically it was during my "gently caress it lets give elevator guy his poo poo" run that the game coughed up that and Alpha Bullets (and Gun Soul, which I'm pretty sure was designed specifically to be exploited) which completely salvaged it.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2016 01:23
|
|
|
Papal Infallibility posted:I'd like to go ahead and recommend Heroine as well. The clip size is considerably worse than Mega Hand but at full charge it hits very hard, charges faster and has a larger shot to go with it. Ironically it was during my "gently caress it lets give elevator guy his poo poo" run that the game coughed up that and Alpha Bullets (and Gun Soul, which I'm pretty sure was designed specifically to be exploited) which completely salvaged it. Yeah I was going to say this more or less. Megahand only one shots people for the first couple of floors unless you get a damage up. Heroine will oneshot people for most of the game, especially if you get a damage up. They are both really great though. Just be careful with duct tape.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2016 01:59
|
|
|
I like to buy an extra blank or two on the fourth floor if I've got any spare money, on the expectation that I'll very rarely flawless the fourth floor boss normally but can frequently do it with 3-4 blanks to make easier.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2016 02:19
|
|
|
Getting the hang of switching weapons makes a big difference with ammo management. You can hold down hold down the gun select button and the game slows down to let you scroll through your guns, and if you tap the gun select button it'll switch between the last two guns you've selected. A lot of people make the mistake of using only one gun at a time. If you use your best gun for the start of every room and switch to a weaker gun once you've got down to fewer weaker enemies you can basically use your best gun for all the hard parts but make the ammo go way further and also get use out of the ammo for the shittier guns you've got that might otherwise get thrown in a gun muncher at full ammo. Or switch between a status effect weapon and a clean up weapon or an aoe weapon and a clean up weapon.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2016 02:30
|
|
|
Blanks only slightly help my ability to nohit bosses. Usually I get hit because I messed up dodging a pattern that I thought I could dodge, and blanks only help if you know in advance that you would get hit.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2016 02:32
|
|
|
Holy poo poo, heavy bullets and the anvil gun I almost one-shot all four Kill Pillars with the first, very very slow, anvil.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2016 02:36
|
|
|
RPATDO_LAMD posted:Blanks only slightly help my ability to nohit bosses. Usually I get hit because I messed up dodging a pattern that I thought I could dodge, and blanks only help if you know in advance that you would get hit.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2016 02:41
|
|
|
The combo of BSG + Backup Gun allowing me to clear floor 5 without taking any damage along with The Emperor doing work on the Dragun just got me my first past kill  If anyone else is at the level of regularly getting to the 4th floor boss but having runs end either there, the 5th floor, or the Dragun fight I really recommend the Convict, I've consistently had my best runs with her. I'm guessing it has to be the DPS boost from the photo, since the Molotov/Sawed Off lose effectiveness fairly early on and I'm not convinced the budget revolver is better than the rusty one the Hunter starts with.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2016 02:52
|
|
|
I like the Convict because her bright color makes it easy for me to keep track of myself without having to look at my character, but having said that, she's now the last one I have to get a past kill with. Pilot's past is wicked awesome BTW.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2016 03:01
|
|
|
I just had a run die to the Dragun because the only guns I had were a pretty much empty Siren and Betrayer's Shield, and the generally useless Alien Engine. Had three pieces of junk despite buying every available key and getting the Ballot halfway through level one. Ran out of ammo of course. Game is still way, way too random. There needs to be another guaranteed key per floor and/or more guaranteed gun/ammo drops.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2016 03:24
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 31, 2024 15:34 |
|
|
K8.0 posted:I just had a run die to the Dragun because the only guns I had were a pretty much empty Siren and Betrayer's Shield, and the generally useless Alien Engine. Had three pieces of junk despite buying every available key and getting the Ballot halfway through level one. Ran out of ammo of course. Game is still way, way too random. There needs to be another guaranteed key per floor and/or more guaranteed gun/ammo drops. You're not wrong about the randomness but you are incredibly wrong about the alien engine. It ruins the dragun.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2016 03:33
|
|