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dscruffy1 posted:Coincidentally, there are 40 militia checkpoints and watch towers. There's forty militia checkpoints and watch towers. That's as many as four tens. Tasteful Dickpic posted:That's terrible! this but game design
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Rigged Death Trap posted:I want joker to slip in the shower and crack his head wide open on the rim. That's stealing from the Hal Jordan playbook, and Joker only steals from the best.
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May 7, 2016 04:31
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OldMemes posted:When they were promoting Arkham Origins, they made it sound like the Joker would only have a small part in the story, basically a cameo, and that Black Mask would be the main villian, but nope! There are some signs Joker wasn't actually planned for it really early in development- at a minimum, a bunch of plot points got heavily edited during development, and the seams from that rework still show. My favorite example of that, because it's fairly easy to see, is that the weapons deal you interrupt was originally going to be with Bane's gang. dscruffy1 posted:Coincidentally, there are 40 militia checkpoints and watch towers. There's forty militia checkpoints and watch towers. That's as many as four tens. That's fine if you still like the gameplay.
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May 7, 2016 08:25
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Back to everyone's favorite part: the main story! Breaking (Limbs) And Entering/PolsyNew story: Down The Rabbit Hole
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May 7, 2016 17:15
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In today's update  Though Scruffy does make a good point. If Scarecrow hadn't evacuated the city, then Batman's failure to stop him from setting off the Cloudburst would have undoubtedly killed a lot of people. It's kind of a Catch 22. To acquire the Cloudburst, he needs Gotham evacuated. But evacuating Gotham means that setting the Cloudburst off in Gotham isn't AS effective as it could have been. Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 17:48 on May 7, 2016 |
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May 7, 2016 17:46
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The Cloudburst was also plan B, remember he originally planned to blow-up ACE Chemicals which would have resulted in a much larger spread of Fear Toxin. Also, wow I'm an idiot. I only just realised that it's the Batmobile's wheels driving the drill at the end there, I didn't figure that out when playing. For some reason I thought that pulling on the supports drove a motor or something, so I didn't figure out the logic of which side to pull to raise or lower the platform.
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May 7, 2016 18:00
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Regarding how Batman decoded Gordon's transmission, that's pretty simple. The DC universe has pretty much always operated under the rules of Hollywood-style hacking, where it's all about furiously mashing keys and then saying "I'm in." Come to think of it, does the Bat-Computer even have a mouse?
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May 7, 2016 18:06
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I really feel like that Militia suicide vest speech set piece was originally intended to be waaay earlier in the game.
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May 7, 2016 18:31
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JT Jag posted:I really feel like that Militia suicide vest speech set piece was originally intended to be waaay earlier in the game. Yeah, that really strikes me as something you'd see to introduce the Militia's tactics. It could be doubly funny because they would see from that little display that the bomb vests don't work, and would never use them again.
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May 7, 2016 18:41
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Why would Gordon be using a SWAT radio that the comms room couldn't decrypt in the first place? I first figured this might implicate Branden, the SWAT captain from Arkham Origins, who would certainly have a beef with the Bat.
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May 7, 2016 18:50
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It seems to me that the bomb vests would work just fine if everyone had them. Not so much as an actual armor from being knocked out, but as a delaying tactic as batman has to try to get people relatively alone in the middle of a fistfight to have time to disable their vests. This obviously wouldn't be fun as a game mechanic, but as actual strategy, it could keep batman busy at a key defense point while you bussed in about 50 dudes with guns and similar bomb vests. And then Batman has to leave because it's too dense and even fear takedowns would just result in explosions. Then Batman makes a new gadget that disables the vests remotely and kicks everyone's rear end.
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May 7, 2016 18:56
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Also, unless I'm remembering things very wrongly: they weren't introducing a new gameplay mechanic there with the vest, it never appears again in the game. It's just a one-time thing.
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May 7, 2016 19:02
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How to Unmask Batman Guide Step 1: Hold hostages as far from Gotham as possible. Step 2: Get media attention and tell Batman to reveal his identity or you will kill more hostages every minute, and shoot a hostage. Step 3: Keep shooting hostages until Bruce Wayne admits to being Batman. Better than spending hundreds of billions on your weird fear plan or whatever.
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May 7, 2016 19:12
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JossiRossi posted:How to Unmask Batman Guide That actually happened in one of the Batman movies, and it just resulted in someone else saying he was Batman, while the real Batman watched over him to clobber the villain when they came for him. 
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May 7, 2016 19:18
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IMJack posted:Why would Gordon be using a SWAT radio that the comms room couldn't decrypt in the first place? I first figured this might implicate Branden, the SWAT captain from Arkham Origins, who would certainly have a beef with the Bat. Given how easily Batman decrypted the signal, I'm just guessing the guy at the comm station was really stupid.
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May 7, 2016 19:26
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Oh, right, Commissioner Gordon is still around... welcome back Jim! I hope your time in plot stasis was pleasant. Does firing your electricity gun or beating the militia commander to within an inch of his life cause him to explode? Have these games ever given you the chance to actually kill someone and cause a game over (those 4 people in the water were just stunned, don't be such a cynic!)? That dial on his chest, that Batman immediately knows how to use, reminds me of the dial from a board game I used to play as a kid called 'Perfection'. Felinoid posted:That actually happened in one of the Batman movies, and it just resulted in someone else saying he was Batman, while the real Batman watched over him to clobber the villain when they came for him.
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May 7, 2016 19:28
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CzarChasm posted:Given how easily Batman decrypted the signal, I'm just guessing the guy at the comm station was really stupid. Bats has access to Waynetech's supercomputers.
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May 7, 2016 19:57
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Bats has access to Waynetech's supercomputers. There's a good chance Waynetech supplied the encryption capabilities even. Batman basically makes the world way less secure because he is so paranoid he tries to have backdoors in EVERYTHING.
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May 7, 2016 20:01
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The encryption system the police use is probably Waynetech too.
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May 7, 2016 20:01
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Alternatively, Batman spend some time pre-game getting decryption keys out of SWAT, because everything that demands SWAT is interesting by default? That guy who decided to run when bat-tank - smart of him. That guy who decided to play dead when bat-tank shot guy near him and knocked-out body hit him in the leg - smarter of him. Less damage to heal.
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May 7, 2016 21:06
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Psychotic Weasel posted:The hostages were still in Gotham though, and Joker decided that knowing who Batman was would be boring and instead decided to blow up hospitals until the guy threatening to unmask Batman was killed instead... and then there were a bunch of Batman imitators who also got themselves killed. The main point is that it doesn't work, and has been shown not working. Batman doesn't have to get unmasked just because the hostages are far away from Gotham; poo poo will go sideways somehow long enough until he beats your face in, mask intact.
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May 7, 2016 22:01
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Scarecrow is starting to rival Batman for "number of back-up plans". Plan A: Blow up ACE Chemicals and cover the eastern seaboard in fear toxin. Plan fails due to Batman. Plan B: Use stolen Cloudburst to cover Gotham in fear toxin. Plan fails due to city being largely abandoned and also Batman. Plan C: Take one of Batman's few remaining allies hostage and force the Dark Knight to unmask, which will...do something. I'm guessing reduce Batman to just a man rather than a legend? Plan has not failed yet but is likely to because Batman. The question is...what is Plan D?
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May 7, 2016 22:13
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I'll be honest, abusing Batmans fear of death like that was quite a good idea. If a few more people wore those protection vests at the same time, he'd have no way to disable them. Unfortunately they were kind of terrified by the idea and I can't blame them for that. So here's a question: If someone wore such a west and something was wrong with the wiring so that it just explodes at some point, would Batman feel guilty about it? It's his fault that the person wore the vest in the first place after all. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 22:52 on May 7, 2016 |
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May 7, 2016 22:48
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Air is lava! posted:I'll be honest, abusing Batmans fear of death like that was quite a good idea. If a few more people wore those protection vests at the same time, he'd have no way to disable them. Unfortunately they were kind of terrified by the idea and I can't blame them for that. On the other hand, Batman electrocuted that cluster of dudes in this same video, and they are Definitely Dead No Two Ways About It Very Dead, so i dunno
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May 7, 2016 23:00
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John Liver posted:On the other hand, Batman electrocuted that cluster of dudes in this same video, and they are Definitely Dead No Two Ways About It Very Dead, so i dunno
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May 7, 2016 23:17
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Of course it does.
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May 7, 2016 23:21
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Do you think Alfred edits his screen to say unconscious instead of dead so Batman doesn't feel bad about doing his hobby?
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May 7, 2016 23:25
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JT Jag posted:Um sorry his scanner says they're unconscious It's a bit like a doctor saying "stable", dead is stable, mostly, and death definitely causes unconsciousness.
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Quiet Python posted:Scarecrow is starting to rival Batman for "number of back-up plans". Plan C isn't really a Plan C - was actually always intended simultaneous to Plan A.
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I think if the Militia were as half as competent as that speech made them sound, they might've actually worked if they weren't the primary antagonist group of the game. If Scarecrow had his own gang running around doing stuff, and the knight and his forces were less common and fitted the role of more elite dudes, the way that some of the bigger heavier guys are used, but are just smarter and more prepared for the bat instead of just being a four hundred pound pile of sentient muscle. Give scarecrow a mix of mooks of former Jokers, guys on loan from Two Face and Penguin, every one contributing to Crane's effort to Kill The Bat. Then the Knight shows up and does poo poo, partly in with Scarecrow, but partly breaking off to focus on The Bat. This way the militia can seem actually threatening and not, y'know, laughable.
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Air is lava! posted:I'll be honest, abusing Batmans fear of death like that was quite a good idea. If a few more people wore those protection vests at the same time, he'd have no way to disable them. Unfortunately they were kind of terrified by the idea and I can't blame them for that. Batman looted Electrocutioner's body immediately after he died.
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CzarChasm posted:Given how easily Batman decrypted the signal, I'm just guessing the guy at the comm station was really stupid. Or, given that "ten years ago" in Origins there was the whole corrupt S.W.A.T. bit, Batman just went ahead and had the decryption algorithm decoded a long while ago. His interaction with the Communications Officer's workstation mostly being uploading it to the rank-and-file officer's system. Heck, he might have merely asked Gordon for it in the intervening years in case he ever wound up helping S.W.A.T. in a hostage situation with <insert villain of choice here>. An angle without WayneTech even needing to be a relevant thing.
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Wedemeyer posted:Do you think Alfred edits his screen to say unconscious instead of dead so Batman doesn't feel bad about doing his hobby? Could be. After all, Batman is convinced that slamming into people at 100 MPH and having them fly into walls just knocks them unconscious because of electro shock reason stupidity.
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Ronin Of Dreams posted:Or, given that "ten years ago" in Origins there was the whole corrupt S.W.A.T. bit, Batman just went ahead and had the decryption algorithm decoded a long while ago. His interaction with the Communications Officer's workstation mostly being uploading it to the rank-and-file officer's system. Heck, he might have merely asked Gordon for it in the intervening years in case he ever wound up helping S.W.A.T. in a hostage situation with <insert villain of choice here>. An angle without WayneTech even needing to be a relevant thing. Alternatively, they could be WayneTech radios with a backdoor, as it seems that literally everything the GCPD uses is donated by Wayne Industries.
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Air is lava! posted:I'll be honest, abusing Batmans fear of death like that was quite a good idea. If a few more people wore those protection vests at the same time, he'd have no way to disable them. Unfortunately they were kind of terrified by the idea and I can't blame them for that.
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May 8, 2016 06:07
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Wedemeyer posted:Do you think Alfred edits his screen to say unconscious instead of dead so Batman doesn't feel bad about doing his hobby? "Don't worry little buddy their just... sleeping. Once they wake up they'll live on a fine farm were they'll frolic around." If the state of his henchmen is an indication, I bet Bruce killed a lot of pets in his childhood.
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Crystalgate posted:I don't think the strategy would be invincible unless the guys around the one Batman is trying to disable are willing to die for the cause. As soon as Batman grabs one bomb vest wearing guy and starts disarming the bomb, all others around him will freeze out of fear that interrupting him will cause the bomb to go off. It would be a hassle though. That would explain why the 30 guys in there during the video just stood and watched Batman molest the seminar leader.
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May 8, 2016 08:02
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It's simple. We bore the Batman.
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It just occured to me that according to this game batmans greatest fear is turning into someone with a sense of humor.
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Air is lava! posted:"Don't worry little buddy their just... sleeping. Once they wake up they'll live on a fine farm were they'll frolic around." They're at a farm. Upstate. There's a hammock made of dreams.
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