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Morris posted:I'm not sure it's necessarily well suited to our current situation. The 60-day plan seems to be targeted towards getting people core skills as well as the basic skills to rat - very Gallente/drone heavy. Given that we don't really have newbie-friendly AFK ratting space anymore What makes serpents so much harder than gurmistas? Or are you talking about having to watch for hostiles? Ratting is one of two methods available to increase ADMs. It's actually a thing that needs to get done.
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OWLS! posted:We love newbies. We love them lots and wish to press them to our space bosom. Be cute, a bittervet will throw isk at you, give you a skillplan, and maybe mentor you. I think we still have that going. How useful are logi ships out there? Part of the reason I skipped over groon to go to RvB is that my shiptype of choice doesn't really work solo. RvB is fun but pretty dead outside of EU TZ, and EU TZ is usually when I'm helping with RVCMF.
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CainFortea posted:What makes serpents so much harder than gurmistas? Or are you talking about having to watch for hostiles? I think it's mostly that drone ratting may not be the best way to steer newbies now that AFK ratting isn't safe in our space?
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vandalism posted:I'm trying to get up to level 4 missions and currently have 2 characters at my disposal. One can currently do Caldari l3's, but the other has no rep. He can fly Amarr and Minmatar ships. Either of those faction missions better? Caldari missions remain a good LP conversion (best in highsec) so carry on there. Shipwise a Maelstom runs L4s and a Mach will blitz them with good skills / a little spent on it. There are good guides around on blitzing them. Don't fall into the trap of trying to run them to completion or loot everything. There's more money in the LP.
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Sweet. Thanks for the info. I set up a maelstrom to shoot poo poo while my Drake tanks 3's to speed things along. The guide to fitting the maelstrom suggested 1400mm artillery and my fitting skills are as far as I can tell perfect. I went with 1200mm, t2 of course, and a bit beefier tank.
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Dallan Invictus posted:I think it's mostly that drone ratting may not be the best way to steer newbies now that AFK ratting isn't safe in our space? It never was safe. You have to pay more attention to Intel now, but it's not that much different. Hell, PH hasn't figured out that putting an afk cloaker in system only works with characters who actually get on ratter kill mails. I used my freaking carrier to do two FSP finals the other day. It is less safe than ratting in Deklein 3 months ago. But it's still very doable.
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Ad by Khad posted:How useful are logi ships out there? Part of the reason I skipped over groon to go to RvB is that my shiptype of choice doesn't really work solo. RvB is fun but pretty dead outside of EU TZ, and EU TZ is usually when I'm helping with RVCMF. Logi is useful and good. I'm fairly sure there are 0 people who would say "No, don't hop into a logi" (Unless we're very VERY specifically trying to downship and not scare a gang or something.) We've also been known to fly dumb poo poo like Remote-repping stratioses for blops drops. Also all logi frigs and cruisers are reimbursable, I believe, and have been forever. OWLS! fucked around with this message at 16:28 on May 7, 2016 |
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The trick with Soth is that he actually seems chill and cool until you actually have to organize something with him in some way. When you're a newbee you'll be in a fleet with him and you'll say "yes" to what he wants no matter what the gently caress he wants and you get reimbursement anyway and so you don't think about it. Or if you're a bona-fide chillman like Spankys you don't give a gently caress, and you barely pay attention anyway. So people go for years without realizing how loving bad he is. It's not until you actually have to do some kind of leadership that you realize how awful he is and how bad he is at responding to anyone else's ideas, no matter how uncontroversial and sensible your idea is. Once he has a loving idea in his head it's over.
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# ? May 7, 2016 16:37 |
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Oh no! Clay is blue now. I have have committed an egregious error in judgement. Let me back onto the swarm I'll twist the knee, bend the knife. Anything!
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Zephyrine posted:Oh no! Clay is blue now. I have have committed an egregious error in judgement. Let me back onto the swarm What's a Clay and why does s/he matter?
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# ? May 7, 2016 16:56 |
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Zephyrine posted:Oh no! Clay is blue now. I have have committed an egregious error in judgement. Let me back onto the swarm I figured you knew he was blue since he's in PL and you joined PH. One is literally the feeder Corp to the other.
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Xolve posted:What's a Clay and why does s/he matter? He tried to Mandozer but awoxed too close to the sun and was burned to a crisp.
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Zephyrine posted:Oh no! Clay is blue now. I have have committed an egregious error in judgement. Let me back onto the swarm You're also blue to BFM
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# ? May 7, 2016 17:19 |
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Orange Red Bull posted:You're also blue to BFM Good or evil one?
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# ? May 7, 2016 17:23 |
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Both
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# ? May 7, 2016 17:25 |
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Zephyrine posted:He tried to Mandozer but awoxed too close to the sun and was burned to a crisp. That's giving Clay too much credit.
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# ? May 7, 2016 17:28 |
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YouTuber posted:Both How do I know which is which?
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# ? May 7, 2016 17:41 |
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Zephyrine posted:How do I know which is which? Just avoid both to be safe
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# ? May 7, 2016 17:48 |
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Zephyrine posted:How do I know which is which? One likes schoolchildren.
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# ? May 7, 2016 17:49 |
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Zephyrine posted:How do I know which is which? ISRAD doesn't have a lot to do with PH, so you probably don't have to worry about it.
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# ? May 7, 2016 18:03 |
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CainFortea posted:It never was safe. You have to pay more attention to Intel now, but it's not that much different. Hell, PH hasn't figured out that putting an afk cloaker in system only works with characters who actually get on ratter kill mails. Honestly I've been safer now than I ever was in Dek. In Dek you had a lot less people, but generally they were much more competent and didn't operate in large groups which make it easy to see coming a mile away. Plus even though there is a ton more traffic in systems, most of it is people passing through, looking for camps, or doing sov work.
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# ? May 7, 2016 18:05 |
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Everytime this thread brings up what happened to topgoon I feel sad
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# ? May 7, 2016 18:09 |
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Wait that retard clay hakaari is in PL? Wow
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# ? May 7, 2016 20:00 |
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Wait that retard clay hakaari got into pl and angelique douchecanoe couldn't make the cut? Lol wow
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Syndic Thrass posted:Wait that retard clay hakaari is in PL? Wow Clay is still failing upwards, I see
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# ? May 7, 2016 20:05 |
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Waffles isn't PL.
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Syndic Thrass posted:Wait that retard clay hakaari got into pl and angelique douchecanoe couldn't make the cut? Lol wow Such is life
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# ? May 7, 2016 20:09 |
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Xolve posted:
It's been p much a decade and still people haven't worked it out. Fire the branding team.
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Xolve posted:
Guilt by association.
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Zephyrine posted:Such is life I think you should shoot Clay next time you get a chance. Always shoot blues, especially if it's Clay Hakaari.
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# ? May 7, 2016 20:18 |
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lmao at the crew coming in to defend the caste system
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Xolve posted:
thats like saying karmafleet isnt goons i mean yall lump sma and fcon in with goons so get hosed Horde, Waffles, Ncdot = PL deal with it
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# ? May 7, 2016 20:31 |
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it's really important that we draw distinctions between The Same drat People who totally aren't blue and have identifying characteristics such as
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# ? May 7, 2016 20:32 |
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Imgay
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# ? May 7, 2016 20:32 |
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Syndic Thrass posted:Imgay
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# ? May 7, 2016 20:40 |
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goons are pl
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# ? May 7, 2016 20:48 |
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Foehammer007 posted:goons are pl hosed up if true
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# ? May 7, 2016 20:58 |
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Xolve posted:ISRAD doesn't have a lot to do with PH, so you probably don't have to worry about it. ISRAD runs programs and fleets teaching the newbeans quite often. Hell I personally run ISBAD which teaches newbies how to properly cloak camp.The cloak camping of Fade by Horde was a direct result of teaching that first batch of ISBAD dudes. Hell I'd go so far to say that ISRAD probably lends the most support to Horde out of any corp in PL.
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# ? May 7, 2016 20:59 |
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hell hell hell yeah
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Xolve posted:
Lol. Waffles is basically the AAA team for PL. You will never convince anyone otherwise.
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