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Spiritus Nox posted:You said that Bill is well-liked by people who would never vote for Trump anyway, and that the base would love Trump going after him - implying that Trump going after Bill is a good way to beat Hillary. I pointed out that the republican base is never going to vote for Hillary anyway, so I don't see how Trump going after Bill actually helps him all that much.
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May 7, 2016 22:45
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May 7, 2016 23:05
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He looks like he just peed on the carpet or tore up the sofa or some poo poo
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May 7, 2016 23:11
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386-SX 25Mhz VGA posted:He looks like he just peed on the carpet or tore up the sofa or some poo poo More like his adult diaper is leaking but he just MIGHT be able to play it cool and no one will notice.
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May 7, 2016 23:19
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Guy behind him on the right looks like a thin Chris Christie.
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May 7, 2016 23:33
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So what's the deal with that PPP poll showing Trump up by 27 points in West Virginia? Is it because of his rally?
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May 7, 2016 23:34
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Fojar38 posted:So what's the deal with that PPP poll showing Trump up by 27 points in West Virginia? Is it because of his rally? Off the cuff, I'm going to guess that WV is pretty much the quintessential Trump voter.
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May 7, 2016 23:36
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Litany Unheard posted:Welp so much for the much anticipated pivot. That is the pivot.
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Fojar38 posted:So what's the deal with that PPP poll showing Trump up by 27 points in West Virginia? Is it because of his rally? I thought WV was known to be Trump-heavy to begin with, let alone now with nobody effectively running against him.
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May 7, 2016 23:41
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Taerkar posted:That is the pivot. True, and we all know what Axis he's pivoting around.
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May 7, 2016 23:42
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Fojar38 posted:So what's the deal with that PPP poll showing Trump up by 27 points in West Virginia? Is it because of his rally? His only problem in West Virginia was that his campaign team submitted a slate of delegate candidates that meant he couldn't take all the delegates even though he was going to win handily. This has become irrelevant with everyone else dropped out of the race.
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May 7, 2016 23:44
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EwokEntourage posted:Dude needs a stylist creams and pastels are like the official uniform of the derby, for whatever reason. All the dude needs is a hat and to not be made of pudding for this outfit to work.
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May 7, 2016 23:45
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Mr Hootington posted:If only people read the entire article then they would understand Crooked Hillary was talking about Trump not wanting to raise the minimum wage. Literally the third loving paragraph makes it clear she's making a joke, not inventing a new nickname or whatever.
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May 7, 2016 23:49
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May 7, 2016 23:54
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icantfindaname posted:paul ryan is the unluckiest man alive I find it really difficult to feel bad for him.
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May 8, 2016 00:02
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Rhesus Pieces posted:I thought WV was known to be Trump-heavy to begin with, let alone now with nobody effectively running against him. Sorry I should have clarified it was a general election poll vs clinton
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May 8, 2016 00:13
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Daniel Bryan posted:Women have it easier, fellas. Donald Trump: I'm petrified to even speak to Hillary Clinton
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e: ^ Holy poo poo, someone should run with that. Fojar38 posted:Sorry I should have clarified it was a general election poll vs clinton Well, WV is a conservative, coal-driven, and generally poor state, so I'm not surprised they'd gravitate towards Trump. Beyond that, what sort of poll was it? Were they relying on landlines? Because if so, you'd have an older audience (possibly also unemployed so they'd be more likely to answer the phone) so that could also explain it.
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Xanderkish posted:e: ^ Holy poo poo, someone should run with that. In 2012 Romney won WV by almost 30 points. It'll tighten a bit as we get closer to election day but no one should ever expect a Democrat to win West Virginia. Trump will easily take it by double digits.
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May 8, 2016 00:34
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May 8, 2016 00:37
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WV is full of people who are white, poor, uneducated, highly religious, are big into "Southern pride" despite the state's history of leaving the Confederacy, base their local identity around the coal industry, and cling hard to their guns. (Basically WV is terrible.)
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Harik posted:Since it's a district wide policy, my wife wrote a polite email to the board of education asking for an explanation. So bring your infant, have someone kick you out on camera, and use the footage to run a campaign to replace your local electeds. This is America: If you don't like a policy, use the system to change that policy.
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about it because it pisses me off so much. It's not even golden remembrance of my own school years, it's having an attention-span longer than a goldfish and remembering last loving year.
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May 8, 2016 00:46
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Spiritus Nox posted:You said that Bill is well-liked by people who would never vote for Trump anyway, and that the base would love Trump going after him - implying that Trump going after Bill is a good way to beat Hillary. I pointed out that the republican base is never going to vote for Hillary anyway, so I don't see how Trump going after Bill actually helps him all that much. Additionally, in the segment of people that could still be swayed to one side or the other you have to wonder how effective it can be to attack Bill, the former president who presided over an extremely good 8 years for the US including a surplus. Trump attacking Hilary via Bill risks it making people think "wait, if I elect her we get him back in the White House? Ok great!" Yes, he's a sexual predator and all but the GOP going after him because of Monica didn't hurt him and it certainly doesn't help that most people leading that charge were either cheating on their spouses as well or a serial child rapist. Booourns posted:Donald Trump: I'm petrified to even speak to Hillary Clinton This is the kind of thing Clinton's team needs to run with.
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West Virginians are deluded into thinking Trump (or whatever conservative hero that comes to them once they forget about Trump) will be able to revive the dying coal industry.
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Zerilan posted:West Virginians are deluded into thinking Trump (or whatever conservative hero that comes to them once they forget about Trump) will be able to revive the dying coal industry. We could have the government buy coal and burn it on reclaimed brownfield to undo the harmful effects of the EPA.
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I've been saying since Bernie declared, "I want to see Hillary get into an fight and win." Beat the ever living stuffing of Trump. Figuratively or for real. She'll get my respect when she does. So much power and momentum actually needs to get used. I'm probably just looking forward to the first debate but I don't want to wait . If Hillary kicks his teeth in I'd be tickled. I also bet a friend 10$ that Trump is a plant. Still hope I win that bet.
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Full Battle Rattle posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksIXqxpQNt0 The faster coal goes away the better. Democrats aren't going to win WV anyway, so I don't know why this matters.
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May 8, 2016 01:10
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BlueBlazer posted:I'm probably just looking forward to the first debate but I don't want to wait . If Hillary kicks his teeth in I'd be tickled. Don't both sides release financial plans before the debates that are vetted by independent groups? This will be Trump's death knell.
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happyhippy posted:Don't both sides release financial plans before the debates that are vetted by independent groups? why would Trump have to do that? He'll just make some comment about getting the smartest bestest men to figure it out for him once elected.
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Trabisnikof posted:why would Trump have to do that? He'll just make some comment about getting the smartest bestest men to figure it out for him once elected. Hillary/Sanders can then bring out their experts, and ask who is Trump's. Not naming any will be akin to Palin's gotcha newspaper Kouric question.
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happyhippy posted:Hillary/Sanders can then bring out their experts, and ask who is Trump's. Sure Trump haven't been in Washington for decades, so he doesn't have lobbyists and Washington insiders on his speed dial. But he's a very smart businessman and knows how to pick smart people from businesses across this country.
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Coal spent the past ten years crashing down to >$40 a ton. Even the automated mines don't turn a profit.
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Trabisnikof posted:Sure Trump haven't been in Washington for decades, so he doesn't have lobbyists and Washington insiders on his speed dial. But he's a very smart businessman and knows how to pick smart people from businesses across this country. Sure. Then he will be able to name some surely when asked. And then that company will be tarred/linked to Trump. If Republicans are fleeing being linked, do you think CEOs will?
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happyhippy posted:Sure. Then he will be able to name some surely when asked. I think you're imagining how this is going to play out amongst voters who already dislike Trump. This narrative won't pierce the echo chamber for those who are suspicious of the NYT or Lame Stream media..
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Trabisnikof posted:Sure Trump haven't been in Washington for decades, so he doesn't have lobbyists and Washington insiders on his speed dial. But he's a very smart businessman and knows how to pick smart people from businesses across this country. Trump has said multiple times he employees lobbyists.
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Zerilan posted:WV is full of people who are white, poor, uneducated, highly religious, are big into "Southern pride" despite the state's history of leaving the Confederacy, base their local identity around the coal industry, and cling hard to their guns. (Basically WV is terrible.) West Virginia was one of 6 states that went for Carter in 1980 (!) and one of 10 that went for Dukakis. Robert Byrd was the longest serving senator in history. It's a pretty complicated state politically but it used to function essentially as a political machine for the democrats for over 60 years. I feel like the megachurch/southern-lifestyle stuff is newer to the state than the shift to the GOP, a symptom rather than a cause. I'd say the death of earmarks, the death of organized labor, and the rise of national wedge issues did more to drive the state into the arms of the GOP than an inherent bias towards amorphous rural widdershins. EDIT: I will grant however that this guy:  winning the 2012 democratic primary in the state was simply racism. moller fucked around with this message at 02:00 on May 8, 2016 |
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Mr Hootington posted:Trump has said multiple times he employees lobbyists. Of course he does, he pays them to lobby, everyone has to pay to play, that's how corrupt Washington is. But you know what, those lobbyists employees are his employees...more jobs Trump has created btw...but those lobbyists take his orders not the other way around. Trump advises them...he is a thought leader in business after all...not the other way around. Trump gets advise from the smartest business leaders and experts. He's been hiring experts his entire life, why would he hire bad ones now?
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