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Fish Of Doom posted:I saw this at the local comic store the other day. He's got some kind of Trogdor situation going on there with that one beefy arm. 
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DigitalRaven posted:When did Fixer stop being black? When was Fixer black? A better question is when was he freed from the reality saving time loop he was consigned to after murdering his younger self?
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I don't remember Fixer ever being black, but he was never exactly white either.Rotten Red Rod posted:I was going to comment that those handguns actually look like real existing guns, unlike Liefeld, until I realized his fingers would get stuck in the tiny, tiny trigger guards. (Also, no triggers.) The way they're slightly too long, slightly too rectangular and much taller than they are wide just screams Liefeld to me. 
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May 5, 2016 19:23
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Lurdiak posted:I don't remember Fixer ever being black, but he was never exactly white either. I forgot how everyone Liefeld draws has 10% Asian ethnicity.
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May 5, 2016 19:32
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It doesn't look like modern Liefeld so much as someone who grew up really thinking his art was the poo poo.
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May 5, 2016 19:34
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Malin has done most of his work on Liefeld titles and characters, it's probably muscle memory by this point.
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May 5, 2016 19:42
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Rotten Red Rod posted:I was going to comment that those handguns actually look like real existing guns, unlike Liefeld, until I realized his fingers would get stuck in the tiny, tiny trigger guards. (Also, no triggers.) They look like some sort of awful long-slide hi-points, which would explain the usual Liefeld practice of drawing cracks all over the slide.
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Rhyno posted:When was Fixer black?  Always saw him as black based on depictions like that.
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With a name like Paul Norbert Ebersol and a first appearance like this: And the fact that when he had hair it wasn't curly at all:   And the fact that he's been depicted as white in cartoons:  I don't think he's ever been supposed to be black. I wouldn't be surprised if his look in Thunderbolts was meant to depict him as having some sort of arabic, indian or south american heritage(much like how the DCAU Batman made some of the cast more racially diverse), but even that isn't really a guarantee, since he looks pretty much like a bald white guy with a goatee most of the time. 
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May 5, 2016 22:14
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Fair enough. I've not read a lot of stuff with Fixer in, so.
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May 5, 2016 22:20
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Now Mach 3, he was black. .... For like a month.
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Castle Radium posted:He's got some kind of Trogdor situation going on there with that one beefy arm. 
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Scaramouche posted:RE: Thunderbolts #1 There's a lot poo poo wrong with this but one thing that always bothers me about any illustration, and comic drawings in general, is the lack of varying line weight around the objects. I aways think he worst illustrations rely too heavily on outlines anyway but if you're going to go that route, vary them up a bit. It adds mass, weight, form and depth to the drawing. The best inkers know this.
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Lurdiak posted:Now Mach 3, he was black. Did they make him black again in Superior Foes?
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Lurdiak posted:The way they're slightly too long, slightly too rectangular and much taller than they are wide just screams Liefeld to me. No one can fail at drawing a gun as hard as Liefeld. Sure, they're wrong in the same direction, sure, but it's clear that Malin has actually seen a gun before. Maybe touched one, once!
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Rotten Red Rod posted:No one can fail at drawing a gun as hard as Liefeld. Sure, they're wrong in the same direction, sure, but it's clear that Malin has actually seen a gun before. Maybe touched one, once! 
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oh my god Things Liefeld has also never seen in person: men, women, kids, katanas, backpacks, feet, teeth
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I really don't get how anyone could produce this piece and think, "hey, it's good enough work to go to mass market bearing my name". I dabbled in doing some illustration work at a few points in my life, but I realized, each time, that while I can draw well enough to entertain myself/enjoy what I'm doing, no one else really wants to see my work--this isn't some sadbrains bullshit or self-pity, I don't think, it's just self-awareness. I honestly don't understand how this dude has been cranking out sub-DeviantArt work for how many decades now and still being put on covers, let alone interiors. This poo poo cannot improve the marketability of any book. So whose rear end does he know how to kiss? Or kick? Basically, how is this still happening?
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I've said this before, it literally does not matter how Rob Liefeld draws anymore, he is a Big Name Guy, even if he's mostly being made fun of online, everybody is still talking about him. People are probably buying this stuff just to post it online on another fuckin' 25 WORST LIEFELD ART FAILS clickbait article but he's still selling books and he's still a big name.
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May 6, 2016 18:37
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Doesn't he also pump out pages pretty fast too?
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It doesn't fit the setting at all. Why are the walkers naked and buff? They look like the vampires out of The Strain. Is that meant to be Rick Grimes? What is he looking at - the action is behind him?
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I refuse to believe that the kid accidentally blowing away the zombies head wasn't done on purpose for comedic value.
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I love this picture so much. There's so much to unpack here. But if I had to pick a favourite part, it's that Carl (I hope that's the third character here because I guess it could be Glenn too, like I said, a lot to unpack) looks to have an unintentional discharge and is utterly surprised that his just went off in his hands.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Doesn't he also pump out pages pretty fast too? I thought this too, but I looked it up and he had the same kinds of deadline issues a lot of artists had back then. He wasn't as bad as Joe Mad, but then I don't think anyone else ever got that bad.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:oh my god Guns, perspective.
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It's weird he decided to cover a quarter of the central characters face with his gun. That seems like it would be a faux-pas when putting together an action cover like this.
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Madkal posted:I refuse to believe that the kid accidentally blowing away the zombies head wasn't done on purpose for comedic value.  I think you can really tell the gun was an afterthought in this one.
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What's up with the second sword, is it just a tiny dagger or does it sort of fade into nothingness where the title is?
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I've also just noticed Franklin Richards's arms on that page. Kid must do a bit more lifting than the average nine-year old.
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liefield is good and charming because he draws like an overexcited twelve year old and i'm glad he gets paid for it
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Avshalom posted:liefield is good and charming because he draws like an overexcited twelve year old and i'm glad he gets paid for it it's the same appeal as Hideo Kojima's writing
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Toadstrieb posted:I really don't get how anyone could produce this piece and think, "hey, it's good enough work to go to mass market bearing my name". Liefeld's a name, he's created a few notable characters, and he's more or less consistent as an artist and creator. Sure, his art is not good, but it sells, and you can reasonably expect him to finish a project on time. It also probably helps that unlike other names, Liefeld isn't hard to get.
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Avshalom posted:liefield is good and charming because he draws like an overexcited twelve year old and i'm glad he gets paid for it Alaois posted:it's the same appeal as Hideo Kojima's writing These are both very accurate statements.
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Avshalom posted:liefield is good and charming because he draws like an overexcited twelve year old and i'm glad he gets paid for it https://youtu.be/54_ZPy8feyA Edit:I'm a failure at phone posting
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Avshalom posted:liefield is good and charming because he draws like an overexcited twelve year old and i'm glad he gets paid for it Whatever one thinks of him as a writer and artist, my impression is that there's few people even in the industry who love comics more than he does.
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The sets aWheat Loaf posted:Whatever one thinks of him as a writer and artist, my impression is that there's few people even in the industry who love comics more than he does. 9 year old me though X-FORCE number 1 was the coolest poo poo I had ever seen. He still has a special place in my heart
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I've also heard he's a really cool and nice dude to hang out with, unlike a lot of talent we hear about in the industry. 
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