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Radical posted:also i feel like new rageblade is good on kayle but it would take so long to build second you'd be doing even less than you do currently. maybe as a third item, but i haven't tried it yet. That's why I think it has to be rushed, has to be on someone with an AS steroid, and is probably only ideal on a ranged ADC.
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Libertine posted:That's why I think it has to be rushed, has to be on someone with an AS steroid, and is probably only ideal on a ranged ADC. Problem is, the old guinsoo was more gold efficient and had more attack speed AND a better on-hit, it was both easier to rush and did more, the new one is awful on trist because she doesn't need a phantom hit, the new guinsoo relies totally on your built in on-hit effect to be worth doubling every other hit because 15 magic damage to a single target doesn't really compare to the old passive of: Base attacks deal bonus magic damage equal to 20 (+15% bonus AD) (+7.5% AP) to your target and nearby enemy units. You need 2 more hits to stack the passive as a melee, and the total stacks give 6 AD 8 AP 16% attack speed less total, I wouldn't even build it on kayle anymore after trying twice and it feeling extremely underwhelming, I'd rather go lichbane after nashor. At best guinsoo is now a trap item and is essentially no longer something to use on those that used to like it until a patch comes in buffing it. Besides the guinsoo users, Swain, Cass and Vlad were big losers on this patch, heavily weakened and they weren't even that good before hand. Ra Ra Rasputin fucked around with this message at 19:40 on May 8, 2016 |
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I'd also like to take a moment to point out Jungle Mordekaiser has a 2% higher win rate then jungle Yi.
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Old Guinsoo was only more good efficient because the stack cap meant you got more everything. It also only took two autos to become neutral in cost efficiency, while the new one takes 3.
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Radical posted:i saw a vayne try to rush it yesterday and man that guy just got trashed in lane I played a ranked game where I was Jhin against a Vayne. Their support DCed at some point under my tower so I killed it, the Vayne tried to engage and died. She came back to lane with another doran's blade and a blasting wand to my BFS. She died a lot more after that.
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bring back old rageblade, thanks!! also I like how tear makes it so you never have mana problems ever again.
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Basically old Rageblade is gone because the really good part of the item was a scaling aoe on hit that did magic damage. Nobody was excited about the stacking stats although they were okay. New Rageblade is the old Devourer and the boring part of old Rageblade rolled together and overpriced. Playing Kog and going Bork > Rageblade is kinda okay though.
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If the dragon rolls ocean and you get it early, nobody on your team has to build mana items ever.
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earth and water are by far the best dragons. Water because that regen makes the attrition game easy, and lanes really well. Earth because it lets you take baron and other dragons faster and it increases the damage of smite
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Double Sheen Ezreal has hit new heights of Not poo poo because now buying that second sheen still gives you extra mana + 10% cdr, btw. It's significantly more gold efficient than it was.
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Three Galio support games, three Galio S ranks. I like this Mid Year Mage Update.
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How do you build Galio support?
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:How do you build Galio support? Construct a steel pole with two angled branches where you would like the wings. Aligned wooden walls around the frame, being sure to fasten them together with durable joints. Now you are ready to pour your clay or similar material.
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my most recent game feature our mid yasuo getting a triple kill in the level 1 invade, and their ahri getting a double kill. they both fed their asses off for the rest of the game lol
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NTT posted:Double Sheen Ezreal has hit new heights of Not poo poo because now buying that second sheen still gives you extra mana + 10% cdr, btw. It's significantly more gold efficient than it was. if you build a triforce and a frosty fist which spellblade takes priority, tho also rageblade feels good on Kayle but I wouldn't grab it as a first item, nashors/hurricane/rageblade is a pretty decent core.
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Hashtag Yoloswag posted:if you build a triforce and a frosty fist which spellblade takes priority, tho Lichbane > Triforce > IBG You should never ever do this though
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:How do you build Galio support? I only really pick him into AP heavy comps so I can focus on MR and HP. Abyssal Scepter gaining cooldown is great for him. Despite being mostly a mage he has a melee auto attack so relic shield works fine. He's feels mana heavy in lane, so I don't tend to try and poke them down unless they are playing something really fragile, like a mage support with all ap/magpen runes, and I'll just max my shield first. 60 armor/mr is nothing to sneeze at at level 5, and it generally prevents opposing all ins from being successful as long as I can lead it well. His Q slow and his E speedup make for an alright peel kit, as well as set up ganks. His laning is definitely his weakest part, after that you tend to get tanky enough that you just waltz into the middle of team fights and ult, or counter engage their dive champs with your ult. Face of the Mountain + Abyssal Scepter is 20% CDR, I run another 10% CDR in runes, and finish my CDR with either Spirit Visage or Locket, depending on how much I need to actually support. At that point you'll have one slot left, so you can decide if you need damage or peel or tankiness and build appropriately. Face of the Mountain Sightstone Boots Locket/Spirit Visage Abyssal Scepter (Whatever I need) CubeTheory fucked around with this message at 01:06 on May 9, 2016 |
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Firebert posted:Lichbane > Triforce > IBG i know, it was just a goofy question e: what are peoples' thoughts on veigar supp now that he can stack his passive off harass/cage stuns? the biggest problem i can see is that he still needs a deathcap to function which is going to be the majority of your budget Hashtag Yoloswag fucked around with this message at 04:23 on May 9, 2016 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo4xy-bcGMY
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New Cassiopeia is trash.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:I'd also like to take a moment to point out Jungle Mordekaiser has a 2% higher win rate then jungle Yi. You say it like it's a bad thing
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Veigar isn't.
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Ao Shin seems pretty strong, and is actually fun to play. I think... he's good.
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:Veigar isn't. Shh. Don't tell people. Last time he was meta for more than a week, he instantly got hit by the nerfbat and went back to sub 50 win rates. Though the nerf to teleport and games getting shorter with preseason changes didn't help him either at the time. But yeah, Veigar is in a nice spot right now. JuniperCake fucked around with this message at 11:36 on May 9, 2016 |
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Sexpansion posted:Ao Shin seems pretty strong, and is actually fun to play. I think... he's good. took me a second to discover this Hidden Meme, well done
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And a computer crash mid-game punts me into low priority q. Despite returning as soon as the client would let me.
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Radical posted:yeah ive seen a lot of people picking junglers like ww/olaf/nunu that just solo the drake. even if lanes are doing poorly early on the jungle champ has been powerfarming and everyone gets buff as hell from then on. I have been doing very well (in Bronze, admittedly) with Nunu for this reason. It's even better in Bronze, where 50%+ of the time no one but you is even thinking about dragon (because they don't watch the timers). It's interesting, because I actually picked Nunu as part of an experiment to pick the suggested low ELO champs from that guy's four part listing of all of the champs (can't remember his name). Nunu was one of his three suggested jungle champs. He's fascinating, because he almost seems like he would be crippled having one less team fight skill (unless you can find a creep during the fight to munch on), and another skill that is basically "make an ADC fire faster." But he still can make a single retreating opponent's life absolutely miserable, as you get some cooldown and just pelt them with a giant snowball every couple of seconds. The one thing about him that does kind of bug me is his ult. You rarely get the full thing off, either because everyone leaves the circle, or because you get immediately popped out of it by someone's skill. I understand that it has been realistically described as more of a zoning tool than a damage dealing skill, but that does not stop it from feeling a little underwhelming when you use it.
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Nunu is a mixed bag at low elo I've found. On the one hand, if you get a nunu player who doesn't counter jungle and take objectives, it's almost impossible to be more useless. On the other hand, if you have a nunu player than will start at the enemy buff they think the other isn't starting at, and they have proper objective management (even enemy buff camps with the new jungle timers), it's easy to completely invalidate a member of their team while getting fat. Early rift herald is awesome.
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When it comes to Nunu I think TheOddOne said it best: "Nunu's job is to make the enemy jungler as useless as you are".
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I mean I don't really give a poo poo about changes to the game, since I suck at it anyway, but wouldn't professional players be a bit upset at the massive changes to gameplay that seem to happen yearly? Or is there some sort of professional level version freeze so that they don't have to relearn how their mains work or new itemization?
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Spudalicious posted:I mean I don't really give a poo poo about changes to the game, since I suck at it anyway, but wouldn't professional players be a bit upset at the massive changes to gameplay that seem to happen yearly? Or is there some sort of professional level version freeze so that they don't have to relearn how their mains work or new itemization? It doesn't really matter because they have no leverage. They're only good at League and have to play it since it's their livelihood, so maybe they'll grumble but they can't accomplish anything by making a ruckus.
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Spudalicious posted:I mean I don't really give a poo poo about changes to the game, since I suck at it anyway, but wouldn't professional players be a bit upset at the massive changes to gameplay that seem to happen yearly? Or is there some sort of professional level version freeze so that they don't have to relearn how their mains work or new itemization? lots of esports are like this, its just part of playing professionally.
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Spudalicious posted:I mean I don't really give a poo poo about changes to the game, since I suck at it anyway, but wouldn't professional players be a bit upset at the massive changes to gameplay that seem to happen yearly? Or is there some sort of professional level version freeze so that they don't have to relearn how their mains work or new itemization? Radical posted:lots of esports are like this, its just part of playing professionally. Pretty much this, part of being a good pro player is adaptation.
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Kashuno posted:Nunu is a mixed bag at low elo I've found. On the one hand, if you get a nunu player who doesn't counter jungle and take objectives, it's almost impossible to be more useless. On the other hand, if you have a nunu player than will start at the enemy buff they think the other isn't starting at, and they have proper objective management (even enemy buff camps with the new jungle timers), it's easy to completely invalidate a member of their team while getting fat. Early rift herald is awesome. I've actually found that I do not need to counterjungle as much as you would think. I'm not claiming I've played 100 games and have a significant sample size, but I've played five since 6.9, and won all five. He's just really good at getting tanky, securing every dragon, and just being a huge pain in the rear end. You waddle into a fight, ice ball poo poo, W your ADC, and then make it loving impossible for an opponent to escape by just hitting them with ice ball after ice ball as they desperately try to run and flash away. Only flash does not get them far enough away when you're hitting them with ice balls and running like a mofo with W active. Oh, and somewhere in the middle of that, when they're all clustered up and trying to gangbang one of your teammates (and they will cluster up, because Bronze), you hit R, and watch them suddenly wonder why they can't move and all take 30% of their health bar in damage.
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