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Pixelante posted:The fire is bad, but it's not enough of a problem for Canada to throw all of its resources at, much less ask for international help. Mexico sent about 60 firefighters up, but IIRC that was an established partnership, not a pity-gently caress. Russia is probably just scoring free PR points in a situation that's unlikely to cost them a cent. The expensive part is going to be rebuilding. On the other hand, firefighting aircraft are always in short supply and expensive to operate, and the Il-76 is cool and good.
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Helsing posted:I guess I'm more naive than I thought because I'm surprised that someone here was skeptical when told that Hilary Clinton took active steps to stop Haiti from raising it's minimum wage. How the hell do you pay any attention to politics at all and then find that even slightly surprising or hard to believe? Yeah, I mean both Clintons have been torturing Haiti since the 90's so I'm not sure why you'd be surprised that Hillary's State Dept. kept it going. Honestly I wonder what Cubans think when they look at nearby tiny Caribbean countries, most of which are total disasters. You can't read two words about Cuba without learning that its citizens yearn for the sort of luxuries of capitalism, but that's an achievement in itself -- societies don't really begin to give a poo poo about consumer electronics and sick shoes until they're relatively comfortable in the basic necessities. Cubans being unable to enjoy luxuries is spun as a total failure of its society and government, but no similar conclusion is ever made about Haiti.
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May 9, 2016 00:04
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shrike82 posted:I didn't realize Berniebros were a thing in Canada. Forums goon PleasureKevin lives in Vancouver, does not have US citizenship, and phone banks for Bernie.
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May 9, 2016 00:08
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Pixelante posted:The fire is bad, but it's not enough of a problem for Canada to throw all of its resources at, much less ask for international help. Mexico sent about 60 firefighters up, but IIRC that was an established partnership, not a pity-gently caress. Russia is probably just scoring free PR points in a situation that's unlikely to cost them a cent. The expensive part is going to be rebuilding. Listen, firefighters are the true heroes in everything.
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May 9, 2016 00:23
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Heavy neutrino posted:Yeah, I mean both Clintons have been torturing Haiti since the 90's so I'm not sure why you'd be surprised that Hillary's State Dept. kept it going. With Cuba you can at least fall back on "The regime could've had a great thing but blew it by loving its own people and also by siding with the Soviets against the righteous forces of democratic perfection", whereas with Haiti, it starts with a delightful story about the French and just spirals ever toiletward from there.
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May 9, 2016 00:28
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shrike82 posted:I didn't realize Berniebros were a thing in Canada. Ooooh yeah....
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THC posted:Forums goon PleasureKevin lives in Vancouver, does not have US citizenship, and phone banks for Bernie. You know that's illegal
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May 9, 2016 01:24
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Cultural Imperial posted:You know that's illegal So is your posting but we allow it.
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May 9, 2016 01:33
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flakeloaf posted:With Cuba you can at least fall back on "The regime could've had a great thing but blew it by loving its own people and also by siding with the Soviets against the righteous forces of democratic perfection", whereas with Haiti, it starts with a delightful story about the French and just spirals ever toiletward from there. I certainly don't defend the Cuban regime as a whole, but I find it a bit unfair when people talk like that. Controlling for context (geographical and historical) and ignoring the crushing embargo led by the world superpower, how many tiny third world countries even approach Cuba's Human Development Index indicators? It's really a sign of the massive achievements that Cuba has made that nobody even bothers to compare it to countries in its own context anymore, and have to judge it as a failure as measured against first-world countries with massive landmasses and centuries of independent development. I hate to repeat Chomsky here, but what does it say that when a hurricane hits the Carribean, it causes hundreds of fatalities in Haiti and perhaps a handful of injuries in Cuba?
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May 9, 2016 02:01
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If we want to look at a failed socialist state in the modern era, just look at Venezuela. It's at a point where opposition leaders are being assassinated.
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shrike82 posted:If we want to look at a failed socialist state in the modern era, just look at Venezuela. It's at a point where opposition leaders are being assassinated. Well, my main point is that people shouldn't be chomping at the bit to implicate socialism as a whole in the narrative of left-wing states that are struggling unless, I guess, they're willing to implicate capitalism as a whole in the narrative of right-wing states that are struggling. So if economically troubled, politically turbulent Venezuela's violence against political dissidents implicates socialism, then economically troubled, politically turbulent Honduras' violence against political dissidents must implicate capitalism. I think that's an untenable proposition, but for some reason there's this impulse across the entire spectrum to include socialism in the story of left-wing failed states.
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May 9, 2016 02:09
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Agreed. Both capitalism and socialism have their problems eg the Indian famine versus the holodomor
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May 9, 2016 02:11
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Soooo... anyone else give a poo poo about the BC Liberals replacing the $45/year disability transit pass with a $669 one?
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May 9, 2016 02:16
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Pixelante posted:Soooo... anyone else give a poo poo about the BC Liberals replacing the $45/year disability transit pass with a $669 one? That's not what they did: http://thetyee.ca/News/2016/02/16/De-Jong-Presents-Budget-2016/ quote:Everyone on disability assistance will get a $77 a month increase The BC Libs can go straight to hell without passing go, but you don't need to be misleading about it.
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May 9, 2016 02:25
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drat I wonder why people living on $300 a month disability checks in BC would try to sell transit passes for extra cash 
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May 9, 2016 02:31
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Vancouver was considered a pretty great place to live if you had significant disabilities because at one point the BC government paid or heavily subsidized full time care. That's disappeared, and I imagine living in Vancouver is quickly pricing everyone out, but a lot of the support networks (helping you find a home, find a job) still exist in some form.
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May 9, 2016 02:34
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shrike82 posted:If we want to look at a failed socialist state in the modern era, just look at Venezuela. It's at a point where opposition leaders are being assassinated. The US has also hosed with Venezuela a ton tho.
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May 9, 2016 02:43
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I'm reading a book called "Legacy of Ashes" about the history of the CIA. Tl;dr the Americans hosed with EVERY government that may have been even a tiny bit communist.
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May 9, 2016 02:51
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leftist heap posted:The US has also hosed with Venezuela a ton tho. And Venezuala largely hosed themselves with poor leadership held up with a cult of personality.
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CLAM DOWN posted:That's not what they did: Sure thing. I've got the documents on my desk, if you prefer tedious detail. Tyee conflated some other transit subsidy programs with the PWD, though. I'm not as well informed on other social service programs, so I'm not sure which ones. We're gaining a $52/month transit pass, not losing it. In September, PWD is going from $906 to $983. The province-wide offer of $45/year for a transit pass is becoming a $45/year admin fee + $52/month bus pass (= $669/year) which PWD may opt out of, or pay for using the $77/month increase. PWD are coming out slightly ahead of their regularly scheduled poverty with the changes. If you live in Kamloops, the disability pass will be more expensive than a regular pass. My autistic brother can grind those numbers in his head without missing his usual program of Let's Play viewing, but it's a bit of a "gently caress you" to people with cognitive impairments. Most PWD are partly supported by family, and many are saying they'd opt out of the pass because they want to be less of a burden, or stop using food-banks. So beep-boop yay +$25/month net gain. It's still unclear if it will be tied to the $375 limit PWD are allowed to spend on rent. (And yes, the ministry will come after you for spending more than that.) It's grinding PWD people into very limited housing options, but mostly they need their families too much to make leaving the cities an option.
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MA-Horus posted:I'm reading a book called "Legacy of Ashes" about the history of the CIA. Well if you're not American that's fair. On the other hand if i were i couldn't give a poo poo. Instead we have dumb assholes that let air India bombers walk free
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Now it's time to play "Guess the newspaper"quote:But with the return of the mandatory long-form census, Canadians get no such luxury. From mental health diagnoses to domestic situations to home repairs, there are few secrets when the data collectors come knocking.
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I want to say The Beaverton but something tells me that isnt an attempt at humor. 
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Dreylad posted:Vancouver was considered a pretty great place to live if you had significant disabilities because at one point the BC government paid or heavily subsidized full time care. That's disappeared, and I imagine living in Vancouver is quickly pricing everyone out, but a lot of the support networks (helping you find a home, find a job) still exist in some form. The support networks are a joke, you'll be living on the street for months before they find you some moldy rathole charging hundreds more than your entire disability payout. No landlord in the city will rent to someone who admits they are on welfare or disability.
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flakeloaf posted:With Cuba you can at least fall back on "The regime could've had a great thing but blew it by loving its own people and also by siding with the Soviets against the righteous forces of democratic perfection", whereas with Haiti, it starts with a delightful story about the French and just spirals ever toiletward from there. The French system of slavery in Haiti made the American South look like paradise.
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flakeloaf posted:Now it's time to play "Guess the newspaper" Glad to hear paying more money to get a worse product now counts as principled conservatism. I'm going to run for the CPC leadership on a platform of "Pay every Canadian $100,000 to dig a hole and hide in it forever", thus guaranteeing us maximum privacy from the dreaded Big Government.
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vyelkin posted:Glad to hear paying more money to get a worse product now counts as principled conservatism. I'm going to run for the CPC leadership on a platform of "Pay every Canadian $100,000 to dig a hole and hide in it forever", thus guaranteeing us maximum privacy from the dreaded Big Government. I was up in Orillia visiting family for Mother's Day and let me tell you, that plan would actually get you voted in up there. I drove past a church whose sign out front was a subtle jab at LGBT and further down the road was an anti-abortion sign and the old people at the restaurant we went to were all ranting to their families about evil socialism making their grand kids weak and stupid and unfit for real jobs like they had growing up and how they feel safer in their insular little community away from the watchful eye of the Liberals. You see, Patrick Brown is there to protect them and will right the ship by removing government from their daily lives.
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Rime posted:The support networks are a joke, you'll be living on the street for months before they find you some moldy rathole charging hundreds more than your entire disability payout. No landlord in the city will rent to someone who admits they are on welfare or disability. I didn't say they were perfect, but my friends work hard to find people good, clean accessible homes, free legal aid, and employment.
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Im not suggesting they don't, rather thay they have an actively vindictive government and the innate garbage nature of modern Canadians both stacked against them. I've been told working in children and families feels like administering the Warsaw ghetto, since Christy came in and expanded the Campbell era cutbacks.
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shrike82 posted:Maybe saying that working in the department is like being in the Judenrat is kinda offensive? Nah, toughen up, Shirley, this isn't something sensitive.
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My friend does residency and general housing checks for welfare. She basically says if the building codes or zoning bylaws were remotely enforced on the lower end of housing we'd have like twice or more as many people on the street. For every visible homeless person you see, there's an addict or two living in a house that hasn't had working plumbing for 5 years paying 90% of his welfare payments directly to a slum lord. The slum lord then gets to put 0 upkeep into a building, he can use fear of "the government will condemn the building and you'll all be homeless!" to keep everyone from complaining about anything from upkeep to tenants rights. Keep the money coming until the place burns down, then sell the lot for condos or "partner" with idiotic governments to "rebuild more affordable housing" and repeat the cycle again. Directly or indirectly we're subsidizing slum lords like this because we can't possibly have government run housing, just give money to people to let the market sort it out. My old neighbour was a slum lord like this. He had one building that averaged a door a week knocked down by the police, which he didn't like because it cost money to fix. His solution was giving the police a master key to his building and asking them to please try not to damage the doors or property when conducting their raids.
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flakeloaf posted:Now it's time to play "Guess the newspaper" Come on, quoting The Sun is cheating. That reads like a Mike Strobel piece.
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Furnaceface posted:evil socialism making their grand kids weak and stupid and unfit for real jobs like they had growing up I always like this one, because the jobs that they had growing up no longer exist.
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Baronjutter posted:My friend does residency and general housing checks for welfare. She basically says if the building codes or zoning bylaws were remotely enforced on the lower end of housing we'd have like twice or more as many people on the street. For every visible homeless person you see, there's an addict or two living in a house that hasn't had working plumbing for 5 years paying 90% of his welfare payments directly to a slum lord. The slum lord then gets to put 0 upkeep into a building, he can use fear of "the government will condemn the building and you'll all be homeless!" to keep everyone from complaining about anything from upkeep to tenants rights. Keep the money coming until the place burns down, then sell the lot for condos or "partner" with idiotic governments to "rebuild more affordable housing" and repeat the cycle again. Directly or indirectly we're subsidizing slum lords like this because we can't possibly have government run housing, just give money to people to let the market sort it out. Yeah, matches what I saw while working in a homeless shelter in Victoria. A lot of our regulars for the drop-in centre and meals weren't homeless, just on the edge of it. Quite a few were disabled. I'm studying health policy now, and the best you can say for the situation is "working as intended." The ministry did come after my brother for spending more than $375/month on rent, so I had to go on his lease as a room mate to keep his payments from getting clawed back. It's nice to have a place to store my Lego and comic books but I'm very aware that we're lucky fuckers who inherited a house which I sold, and invested in my brother's trust. Without that, he'd be in a CLBC home-share without a say in what that would look like, or where in the city it might be. $375 doesn't go very far in the rental market.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Come on, quoting The Sun is cheating. That reads like a Mike Strobel piece. Close! It's Andrew Lawton, whose own public battle with mental illness both makes him an expert on statistics, and makes me feel a bit weird saying he's loving bonkers. I thought it was a Beaverton article at first too, since my cousin's not an idiot and our mutual family's adventures through mental illness are fairly well-documented, but here we are. Baronjutter posted:My friend does residency and general housing checks for welfare. She basically says if the building codes or zoning bylaws were remotely enforced on the lower end of housing we'd have like twice or more as many people on the street. For every visible homeless person you see, there's an addict or two living in a house that hasn't had working plumbing for 5 years paying 90% of his welfare payments directly to a slum lord. The slum lord then gets to put 0 upkeep into a building, he can use fear of "the government will condemn the building and you'll all be homeless!" to keep everyone from complaining about anything from upkeep to tenants rights. Keep the money coming until the place burns down, then sell the lot for condos or "partner" with idiotic governments to "rebuild more affordable housing" and repeat the cycle again. Directly or indirectly we're subsidizing slum lords like this because we can't possibly have government run housing, just give money to people to let the market sort it out. Wasn't this basically the plot of Life Stinks?
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Manitoba Liberal Leader Rana Bokhari is stepping down... good riddance. The party President realized that the media hates her and no one will donate money to the party for as long as she is leader. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/rana-bokhari-steps-down-liberal-party-leader-manitoba-1.3572299 quote:Manitoba Liberal Party Leader Rana Bokhari is stepping down, according to a news release issued by the party on Saturday.
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EvilJoven posted:The only time I spoke to her she sounded like a desperate realtor trying to convince me to buy a crumbling house on a small lot in a lovely location. She is a lawyer! Her statement on stepping down is the biggest pat on the back someone can get themselves for getting absolutely crushed in an election by Lurch quote:“Three years ago, I was elected leader of the Manitoba Liberal Party. I became leader in the shadow of the party’s worst election result in a generation and in the midst of challenging internal conflict. At the time, I told Manitoba Liberals that with ‘patience, commitment and dedication’, it would be ‘growing season for our party’.
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