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Les Affaires: Nov 15, 2004

open24hours posted:

Telling the truth never got anyone anywhere.

Yes it has.

# ? May 9, 2016 03:09

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# ? Jun 5, 2024 07:16

Mad Katter: Aug 23, 2010; STOP THE BATS

open24hours posted:

Labor has been particularly sore over a supposed preference arrangement between the Greens and the Liberal Party in Victoria, in which Liberals would preference the Greens in seats the Greens are targeting, in return for the Greens running open tickets (rather than preference Labor) in some marginal suburban seats.

Is there any basis to this other than the claims of Michael Danby, the dude who is preferring the Liberals above the Greens in his own electorate?

# ? May 9, 2016 03:13

Seagull: Oct 9, 2012; give me a chip

Mad Katter posted:

Is there any basis to this other than the claims of Michael Danby, the dude who is preferring the Liberals above the Greens in his own electorate?

albanese also lies

I could swear I saw an article a week or two back where di natale said nowhere is preferencing libs higher than labor

# ? May 9, 2016 03:18

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Get on my level.

# ? May 9, 2016 03:21

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

tory scum checking in

# ? May 9, 2016 03:29

Those On My Left: Jun 25, 2010

Seagull posted:

albanese also lies

I could swear I saw an article a week or two back where di natale said nowhere is preferencing libs higher than labor

https://twitter.com/ABCNews24/status/729499548117131268

# ? May 9, 2016 03:45

You Am I: May 20, 2001; Me @ your poasting

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Get on my level.

Does your clock radio play "Workers of the World, Unite!" as your alarm?

# ? May 9, 2016 03:46

freebooter: Jul 7, 2009

Those On My Left posted:

https://twitter.com/ABCNews24/status/729499548117131268

To me this actually looks like he's giving an evasive answer and that some branches may indeed choose to preference the Libs?

Although even if they were doing that surely it's in seats like Melbourne where the Libs don't have a snowball's chance anyway?

# ? May 9, 2016 03:49

Negligent: Aug 20, 2013; Its just lovely here this time of year.

whats a clock radio

# ? May 9, 2016 03:52

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

starkebn posted:

http://abc.net.au/votecompass is up and running

A browser extension removed the post code entry form, so I selected NSW. The first question was about refugees. Then I went back and entered my postcode. Now the first question is about a federal corruption watchdog. lmao.

# ? May 9, 2016 03:57

thatbastardken: Apr 23, 2010; A contract signed by a minor is not binding!

freebooter posted:

To me this actually looks like he's giving an evasive answer and that some branches may indeed choose to preference the Libs?

Although even if they were doing that surely it's in seats like Melbourne where the Libs don't have a snowball's chance anyway?

It's a truncated quote - Branches get to chose preferences, but the policy gulf between Green and LNP is so great that the likelihood of any branch choosing LNP over ALP is very small.

# ? May 9, 2016 03:58

Magog: Jan 9, 2010

The Greens lack economic purity. :commissar:

# ? May 9, 2016 03:58

You Am I: May 20, 2001; Me @ your poasting

Negligent posted:

whats a clock radio

This is a clock radio. All the benefits of a radio, as well as having a clock in it

# ? May 9, 2016 04:04

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

I keep seeing that Albo was "disadvantaged" by the redistribution but I don't see how, Balmain/Rozelle was solid for the ALP in 2013

# ? May 9, 2016 04:07

turdbucket: Oct 30, 2011

Magog posted:

The Greens lack economic purity.

The greens are actually further left than the compass places them, for some reason the answers didn't include free education which is greens policy lol.

# ? May 9, 2016 04:09

turdbucket: Oct 30, 2011

Birdstrike posted:

I keep seeing that Albo was "disadvantaged" by the redistribution but I don't see how, Balmain/Rozelle was solid for the ALP in 2013

Sorry for double post but he lost south marrickville and some of the more western labor heartland side of Grayndler.

# ? May 9, 2016 04:10

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

You Am I posted:

Does your clock radio play "Workers of the World, Unite!" as your alarm?

"I am woman" actually.

# ? May 9, 2016 04:14

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Ignimbrite posted:

loving laffo

E: my dad's copy of the smellograph has a different subtitle than that one. We're regional NSW though

https://twitter.com/GrogsGamut/status/729415598506024960

# ? May 9, 2016 04:17

V for Vegas: Sep 1, 2004; THUNDERDOME LOSER

The Arts Party made its Pozible funding goal of $35k.

# ? May 9, 2016 04:22

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

I just discovered that after moving a suburb over I've gone from an electorate that is a somewhat safe Labor seat, to a marginal Liberal seat :getin:

# ? May 9, 2016 04:29

open24hours: Jan 7, 2001

What do people think about parallel book imports?

quote:

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/productivity-commission-copyright-findings-leave-canberra-authors-concerned-20160506-goo7yv.html
The Productivity Commission's description of copyright protection terms as "excessive" in Australia has left Canberra authors concerned about the future of the system.

The commission's draft report on intellectual property found an optimal copyright term for works would be "closer to 15 to 25 years" after their creation, far less time than the current arrangements which provide protection for the author's life, plus 70 years.

Australia would require international co-operation and negotiation to lower its copyright terms, which the commission felt did not deserve "high-priority policy attention" but argued current arrangements were inconsistent with "an efficient and effective IP framework".

If the commission's draft finding was adopted, the author of a book published this weekend could lose their exclusive rights to their work by the early 2030s.

The 15 to 25-year period was justified using ABS figures showing some three-quarters of original literary works were retired after a year, with the commercial life of books ranging between 1.4 and five years on average.

"A commercial life of a couple of years suggests most works are granted protection for decades longer than necessary," the report said.

"Extensions of term mean where works are still commercially available, consumers can expect to pay higher prices for longer."

The finding sparked outrage from writers, publishers and the Australian Writers Guild, with Canberra Times columnist and award-winning children's author Jackie French penning an open letter condemning the proposals.

Submissions have since been made to the report from other authors criticising the report.

In her submission, crime writer Sandi Wallace said the copyright length finding was inadequate for authors who relied on the industry for a living.

"Writing is my livelihood, not a hobby," she said.

"How can it be fair that my ownership of my work be limited to a mere 15 years? Even 20 years is tremendously inadequate."

One of the report's main focus areas was on parallel import restrictions, which prevents sellers from importing books when an Australian publisher has exclusive rights to the title, provided the latter does so within 30 days of the original overseas publication.

Authors and publishers have criticised the commission's proposal to wind back the restrictions by the end of 2017, but the report described the practice as enabling "geographic price discrimination".

Queensland University of Technology Professor of Property and Intellectual Law Matthew Rimmer described the campaign against stopping parallel import restrictions as a scare campaign.

"Australia's parallel imports restrictions are out-of-date and anti-competitive, so this report will help modernise our intellectual property laws for the 21st century," he said.

"Current restrictions have largely benefited multinational publishing networks and foreign authors so it is a shame publishers and authors are running this scare campaign."

Written submissions about the draft report can be made before June 3. The commission is expected to hand the final report to the federal government in August.

quote:

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/latenightlive/publishing-in-peril/7387884

The Productivity Commission has just handed down its draft report which recommended that parallel import restrictions be lifted to benefit consumers by reducing book prices.

Publishers and authors are opposed to the restrictions being lifted because they say that it will reduce income for Australian publishers and authors, many of whom already struggle to make a living.

I didn't really know much about it and assumed it was just a hangover from the protectionist days, but the people interviewed on LNL make a pretty compelling case for restricting it, and you can already order whatever from wherever if it's for your own use.

# ? May 9, 2016 04:30

Magog: Jan 9, 2010

turdbucket posted:

The greens are actually further left than the compass places them, for some reason the answers didn't include free education which is greens policy lol.

Yeah, noticed that and a few other questions were frustrating.

One question asks 'Should Sunday workers receive higher penalty rates than Saturday workers?', well no but in context I must say 'Yes' because there is no nuance to my disagreement and the assumed rationale in this issue is that a 'No' means taking money out of Sunday workers pay, not say, lifting Saturday rates to meet them.

They should use a 7 point Likert scale instead of 5 points, where the extreme ends are basically "further left"/"further right" options.

# ? May 9, 2016 04:45

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Magog posted:

Yeah, noticed that and a few other questions were frustrating.

One question asks 'Should Sunday workers receive higher penalty rates than Saturday workers?', well no but in context I must say 'Yes' because there is no nuance to my disagreement and the assumed rationale in this issue is that a 'No' means taking money out of Sunday workers pay, not say, lifting Saturday rates to meet them.

They should use a 7 point Likert scale instead of 5 points, where the extreme ends are basically "further left"/"further right" options.

Yeah, https://australia.isidewith.com/political-quiz does this under the 'other stances' option.

Much better, but really those options still shouldn't be hidden.

# ? May 9, 2016 04:51

open24hours: Jan 7, 2001

The whole method is flawed. The scales should be 'more like Labor on economic/social issues' to 'more like Liberal on economic/social issues' rather than left/right conservative/progressive.

# ? May 9, 2016 04:51

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

is this a real actual thing printed in the daily terrorgraph today?

The Before Times fucked around with this message at 05:00 on May 9, 2016

# ? May 9, 2016 04:54

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

open24hours posted:

The whole method is flawed. The scales should be 'more like Labor on economic/social issues' to 'more like Liberal on economic/social issues' rather than left/right conservative/progressive.

Well yeah obviously. If it were actually a measure of left/right progressive/conservative the origin would be a full two grid spaces left.

# ? May 9, 2016 04:56

Seagull: Oct 9, 2012; give me a chip

Mithranderp posted:

is this a real actual thing printed in the daily terrorgraph today?

free_market_robot.jpg

# ? May 9, 2016 05:02

G-Spot Run: Jun 28, 2005

Mad Katter posted:

Is there any basis to this other than the claims of Michael Danby, the dude who is preferring the Liberals above the Greens in his own electorate?

More specifically, Michael Danby, the dude who is preferring the Liberals above the Greens in his own electorate which contains the local seat of Prahran which was knife edge Liberal/Green and went Green on preferences.

# ? May 9, 2016 05:13

Futuresight: Oct 11, 2012; IT'S ALL TURNED TO SHIT!

We really need to reign in the media bias. Are there any resources/discussions/movements about ways to stop this that aren't dangerous to liberty or risk even further abuse?

# ? May 9, 2016 05:21

Seagull: Oct 9, 2012; give me a chip

Higsian posted:

We really need to reign in the media bias. Are there any resources/discussions/movements about ways to stop this that aren't dangerous to liberty or risk even further abuse?

https://youtu.be/acT_PSAZ7BQ

# ? May 9, 2016 05:25

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

Seagull posted:

https://youtu.be/acT_PSAZ7BQ

Thanks for posting this, this is loving badass.

# ? May 9, 2016 06:15

gay picnic defence: Oct 5, 2009; I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

El Scotch posted:

https://twitter.com/lisazdavies/status/729419425779056640

lmao
Murdoch must be desperate to try and prove he can still influence a political process somewhere after Trump destroyed Fox News' hold over the GOP.

Jokes on him because he might be unable to influence News Corp soon: http://www.theage.com.au/business/media-and-marketing/news-corp-faces-shareholder-revolt-after-2015-near-miss-20160505-gomt87.html

open24hours posted:

What do people think about parallel book imports?

I didn't really know much about it and assumed it was just a hangover from the protectionist days, but the people interviewed on LNL make a pretty compelling case for restricting it, and you can already order whatever from wherever if it's for your own use.

The current restrictions are apparently one reason why textbooks are so loving expensive. There is probably some sort of compromise that makes textbooks cheaper but retains protections for local authors and publishers.

# ? May 9, 2016 06:41

gay picnic defence: Oct 5, 2009; I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

Tokamak posted:

A browser extension removed the post code entry form, so I selected NSW. The first question was about refugees. Then I went back and entered my postcode. Now the first question is about a federal corruption watchdog. lmao.

I live in a suburb full of old people and the first question is about euthanasia.

# ? May 9, 2016 06:44

Skellybones: May 31, 2011; Fun Shoe

I think it's randomised each time you load it.

# ? May 9, 2016 06:46

gay picnic defence: Oct 5, 2009; I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

# ? May 9, 2016 06:53

Wheezle: Aug 13, 2007; 420 stop boats erryday

Higsian posted:

We really need to reign in the media bias. Are there any resources/discussions/movements about ways to stop this that aren't dangerous to liberty or risk even further abuse?

I hear Gamergate has some words to say about journalism. :downsowned:

# ? May 9, 2016 07:06

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Do authors of textbooks even get much from their sale, or is it mostly just publishing mark-up?

And aren't we only at our current length of ip-protection because we've been following suit with America's protection of Mickey Mouse?

# ? May 9, 2016 07:09

BBJoey: Oct 31, 2012

Wheezle posted:

I hear Gamergate has some words to say about journalism.

mods

# ? May 9, 2016 07:10

open24hours: Jan 7, 2001

gay picnic defence posted:

lmao
Murdoch must be desperate to try and prove he can still influence a political process somewhere after Trump destroyed Fox News' hold over the GOP.

Jokes on him because he might be unable to influence News Corp soon: http://www.theage.com.au/business/media-and-marketing/news-corp-faces-shareholder-revolt-after-2015-near-miss-20160505-gomt87.html

The current restrictions are apparently one reason why textbooks are so loving expensive. There is probably some sort of compromise that makes textbooks cheaper but retains protections for local authors and publishers.

A simple solution would be to order them from overseas individually rather than through the university bookshop.

# ? May 9, 2016 07:12

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# ? Jun 5, 2024 07:16

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

The first question in my electorate of Brisbane was about negative gearing

# ? May 9, 2016 07:27

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