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Joementum posted:She also endorsed Rand Paul in 2010. He lost to Trump so he's a goofy haired loser.
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Joementum posted:She also endorsed Rand Paul in 2010. so playing the long game wrt losers
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May 9, 2016 03:59
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Mister Macys posted:As much as Gore was on the team that created the Internet. Explain.
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May 9, 2016 04:04
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I hate to say it, but something along the lines of another San Bernadino might be enough to help Trump bring the election close enough for him to have a chance
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May 9, 2016 04:10
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Neither are directly responsible for either coming to fruition. They contributed, yes, but Gore wasn't on the DARPANET planning team any more than Clinton gave the order to take Osama out.
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May 9, 2016 04:11
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FlamingLiberal posted:I hate to say it, but something along the lines of another San Bernadino might be enough to help Trump bring the election close enough for him to have a chance Or like if she has a heart attack in the next few months. It's hard to overstate how totally irresponsible the voters in the Republican primary have been.
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May 9, 2016 04:22
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I'm gonna go with meteor. If that's how Trump gets the white house I'm bending the knee as the heavens themselves demanded him.
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May 9, 2016 04:25
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Joementum posted:Or like if she has a heart attack in the next few months. It's hard to overstate how totally irresponsible the voters in the Republican primary have been. I like how over time we've moved from "Trump might sway the voters by pivoting!" to "Hillary might have a heart/terrorist attack!" as our go-to reasons for being nervous about the election.
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May 9, 2016 04:30
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Xanderkish posted:I like how over time we've moved from "Trump might sway the voters by pivoting!" to "Hillary might have a heart/terrorist attack!" as our go-to reasons for being nervous about the election.
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May 9, 2016 04:32
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Xanderkish posted:I like how over time we've moved from "Trump might sway the voters by pivoting!" to "Hillary might have a heart/terrorist attack!" as our go-to reasons for being nervous about the election. The fact is: in the last week he's become the nominee of the Republican party. Should he win the election, and there's now a non-zero chance he does, he has access to a nuclear arsenal that can destroy the world ten times over.
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May 9, 2016 04:34
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Xanderkish posted:I like how over time we've moved from "Trump might sway the voters by pivoting!" to "Hillary might have a heart/terrorist attack!" as our go-to reasons for being nervous about the election. Well, she's sixty eight years old. Relatively speaking, it's far more likely that Hillary has a heart attack than, say, it was likely that Trump would get the nomination.
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May 9, 2016 04:34
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Joementum posted:Or like if she has a heart attack in the next few months. It's hard to overstate how totally irresponsible the voters in the Republican primary have been. What do you think would happen if a sudden event like this happened? I mean, grim as it is, RFK died in early June, which was before the convention. If something were to happen in, say, August or September, would that put Bernie in the spotlight, or would we see Diamond Joe bring the muscle car out of retirement for one last ride? Would that really be a big enough thing to put Trump into office? (also I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not about that "irresponsible" crack)
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May 9, 2016 04:34
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Joementum posted:The fact is: in the last week he's become the nominee of the Republican party. Should he win the election, and there's now a non-zero chance he does, he has access to a nuclear arsenal that can destroy the world ten times over. I guess it's fair that when you're faced with such a terrifying possibility, you're more likely to dwell on any and all possible scenarios that might lead to it occurring, because even if it's just a small chance, it's a small chance of something really bad. Me, I can't do that for the sake of my own sanity. But I get that other people feel inclined to.
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Yoshifan823 posted:What do you think would happen if a sudden event like this happened? I mean, grim as it is, RFK died in early June, which was before the convention. If something were to happen in, say, August or September, would that put Bernie in the spotlight, or would we see Diamond Joe bring the muscle car out of retirement for one last ride? Would that really be a big enough thing to put Trump into office? If it happened after the convention, her VP nominee would take over the campaign and run against Trump. If it happened before the convention, Bernie would probably be a weak nominee coming out of a messy convention. And I wasn't being sarcastic about saying that a vote for Trump is irresponsible. It is deeply so.
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May 9, 2016 04:38
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Well, she's sixty eight years old. Relatively speaking, it's far more likely that Hillary has a heart attack than, say, it was likely that Trump would get the nomination. He's 69, he'll be 70 in a month!
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May 9, 2016 04:38
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Epic High Five posted:He's 69, he'll be 70 in a month! And honestly, if anyone looked likely to have a heart attack, it's that doughy man.
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May 9, 2016 04:40
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Mister Macys posted:As much as Gore was on the team that created the Internet. http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp http://amsterdam.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-0009/msg00311.html So in other words pretty solidly?
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Joementum posted:If it happened after the convention, her VP nominee would take over the campaign and run against Trump. If it happened before the convention, Bernie would probably be a weak nominee coming out of a messy convention. One more reason she should pick Biden as her running mate. If she picked a Castro or a Boring Virginia Senator, they're not gonna be able to carry a campaign in the even that Hillary isn't able to run further. Biden would be like the grizzled old vet coming out for one last run, for the good of the Country after his son's death caused him go into hiding. Put those aviators on him and you've got a movie waiting to happen.
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May 9, 2016 04:44
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Xanderkish posted:And honestly, if anyone looked likely to have a heart attack, it's that doughy man. But the comedy central sitcom doctor said his health is yooge
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Joementum posted:The fact is: in the last week he's become the nominee of the Republican party. Should he win the election, and there's now a non-zero chance he does, he has access to a nuclear arsenal that can destroy the world ten times over. I have faith that our institutions would prevent Trump from fully exercising his powers as President to wreak nuclear havoc but a constitutional crisis where the government stops following the orders of the president is a whole different nightmare. (But I'm exceptionally faithful.) I got into a fun discussion tonight over whether or not Republicans would help impeach Trump immediately upon entering office. A month ago I was pretty sure the Republicans would never go along with it since they would be so thirsty for control of the government, but now that Ryan and the eGOP are having second thoughts... ...I still think they wouldn't go along with it when the prospect of pushing through some Terrifying poo poo is so close. Xanderkish posted:Me, I can't do that for the sake of my own sanity. But I get that other people feel inclined to. My thoughts exactly. I personally won't be panicking until I see real, genuine evidence that Trump has any chance of winning. Combed Thunderclap fucked around with this message at 04:49 on May 9, 2016 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:I hate to say it, but something along the lines of another San Bernadino might be enough to help Trump bring the election close enough for him to have a chance Not really, Obama's approval ratings haven't been this high in a really long time. It hasn't affected the country that much.
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Reminder that Benghazi happened a month before the 2012 elections and Romney still got housed. Obama is super popular right now and is about to go on a 6 month standup tour of dunking on Trump WHCD-style, someone who 70% of the country doesn't like at all, so that's only likely to go up as the media plays that footage
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lol https://twitter.com/SykesCharlie/status/729447014480547840
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I'm amazed. It's really difficult to get 90% of any demographic to agree on anything at all, let alone hating one specific individual. Good job, Donald.
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May 9, 2016 05:24
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How does Clinton's unfavorability compare to Trump's? I imagine her's isn't nearly as spread out.
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Jonas Albrecht posted:How does Clinton's unfavorability compare to Trump's? I imagine her's isn't nearly as spread out. Clinton does well among all groups who are not Republicans, or white males age 18-30
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Freakazoid_ posted:The correct answer is "A major terrorist attack on US soil could always happen." That would be enough to give Trump the lead and the odds are slightly better than being hit by a meteor. But this could easily backfire on Donald Trump, notorious isolationist, and unify the American populace against an external enemy, Pearl Harbor style.
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TheQuietWilds posted:http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp From your own link , dude: quote:Although Vice-President Gore's phrasing might have been a bit clumsy (and perhaps self-serving), he was not claiming that he "invented" the Internet in the sense of having designed or implemented it, but rather that he was responsible, in an economic and legislative sense, In other words, not directly. He no more typed code or white-boarded it than Hillary pulled the trigger, or even planned the commando strike on Osama (See instead: Vice Admiral McRaven).
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Joementum posted:Or like if she has a heart attack in the next few months. It's hard to overstate how totally irresponsible the voters in the Republican primary have been. "Angry soreheads get excited and go off half-cocked" would be a fair one sentence summation of the 2016 GOP primary.
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Richard Ojeda, a Democratic WV state senate candidate and veteran was beaten with brass knuckles and suffered 8 bone fractures 2 days before his primary. The attacker also tried to run him over with a truck but was prevented by neighbors who moved their ATVs in the way (the guy ran over the ATVs while trying to escape the area).
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May 9, 2016 05:41
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Party Plane Jones posted:Richard Ojeda, a Democratic WV state senate candidate and veteran was beaten with brass knuckles and suffered 8 bone fractures 2 days before his primary. The attacker also tried to run him over with a truck but was prevented by neighbors who moved their ATVs in the way (the guy ran over the ATVs while trying to escape the area). Jesus gently caress quote:West Virginia State Police say Jonathan Porter asked Ojeda to put a bumper sticker on his vehicle and then began beating him after he bent down to place it. Witnesses say Ojeda then tried to run Ojeda over with his vehicle, but neighbors stepped in.
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Mister Macys posted:In other words, not directly. He no more typed code or white-boarded it than Hillary pulled the trigger, or even planned the commando strike on Osama (See instead: Vice Admiral McRaven). Yeah. No poo poo. She was the Secretary of State (which DOES have a key role in making that happen)
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The point I'm trying to make is, the public has already shown it doesn't care about the nuances beyond direct responsibility. If Hillary doesn't word it carefully in a future debate (she'd be better off crediting the Dem administration in general, and Obama's leadership specifically, imo) FOX/Reddit et al. will make it her Gore moment. It'll be the next bumper sticker beside the "You didn't build that" one, on some coal-rolling doofus' Ram.  v - They already Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 06:42 on May 9, 2016 |
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Then Obama gets to carry around bin Laden's severed head on a pike on the campaign trail. It's not that hard.
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Mister Macys posted:v - They already Stuck in an iron coffin and dumped into the sea for the crabs was better than he deserved but still gets points for expediency.
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Jonas Albrecht posted:How does Clinton's unfavorability compare to Trump's? I imagine her's isn't nearly as spread out. Here's the data from a recent CNN poll: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/05/04/rel6b.-.2016.general.pdf Hillary Clinton, base total sample Favorable/Unfavorable Total: 48/49 Men: 45/52 Women: 52/45 Whites: 40/59 Non-white: 63/31 18-34: 48/45 35-49: 47/59 50-64: 48/50 65+: 48/50 Independents: 40/53 Sanders supporters: 64/35 EDIT: Compare to https://twitter.com/SykesCharlie/status/729447014480547840 Keep in mind that's total sample, not just likely voters, so it's probably a bit worse for Hillary among those likely to vote. JosefStalinator fucked around with this message at 07:22 on May 9, 2016 |
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Zeroisanumber posted:Stuck in an iron coffin and dumped into the sea for the crabs was better than he deserved but still gets points for expediency. Eh, it was probably a good diplomatic move given the Islamic views on burial, which IIRC are more or less "you have until tomorrow at sundown" or something similarly curt. Taking something out of the quivers of the terror propagandists who might venerate bin Laden is a legit good thing even if dragging him behind a truck to be torn apart by stray animals is more befitting a man of his stature.
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FAUXTON posted:Eh, it was probably a good diplomatic move given the Islamic views on burial, which IIRC are more or less "you have until tomorrow at sundown" or something similarly curt. Taking something out of the quivers of the terror propagandists who might venerate bin Laden is a legit good thing even if dragging him behind a truck to be torn apart by stray animals is more befitting a man of his stature. Technically the USA can say we were fallowing the wahabist way of ensuring that the dead will not be worshiped after death at their grave site.
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Combed Thunderclap posted:I have faith that our institutions would prevent Trump from fully exercising his powers as President to wreak nuclear havoc but a constitutional crisis where the government stops following the orders of the president is a whole different nightmare. (But I'm exceptionally faithful.) The problem is that the power to order a strike lies with the President, and the SecDef who has to confirm the strike. Who appoints the SecDef? Even if the President goes full on Saturday Night Massacre on SecDefs, you need the VP and the cabinet to relieve a President of their duties if you don't have time to ram impeachment through Congress, and who's picked the VP and the cabinet? The best case scenario seems to be the military directly disobeying an insane President, which is not that great either. I mean refusing an illegal order that's a war crime is cool and good, but you shouldn't go around giving the military illegal orders. To be honest I don't think Trump will just go full Greg Stillson on the planet, but he might through sheer ineptitude and bravado provoke a conflict where nuclear weapons are used.
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