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I hope nobody thinks this wasn't a serious question:Renaissance Robot posted:What was that one with the amoral dimension-hopping magic woman made of chocolate? It was pretty good and I can't remember if it finished.
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Renaissance Robot posted:I hope nobody thinks this wasn't a serious question: I think this was Curvy? Your question made me go and check it out and apparently it's still running, though it's kinda tough to tell what the update pace is like since the comics aren't dated.
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Yep, that's the ticket. Still as weird as ever I see.
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Anyway, yeah, while I have a certain amount of dubiousness for horny dudes making comics with lesbians in them, my bar on that is pretty low. It's a sniff test kind of thing. I'd never say QC really fell into that category, and I'm basically fine with stuff like Girly or whatever too. It's only the ones where you can tell there's a certain low level disrespect for women running through them that give me the skeeves - and in my experience, those are really rare.
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What was that webcomic with a man with a TV for a head that wasn't Riceboy? Edit: This has nothing to do with the current conversation, it just popped into my head.
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And, as mentioned, Band vs. Band is of course not even within one degree of that category.
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djw175 posted:What was that webcomic with a man with a TV for a head that wasn't Riceboy? Saga? But that's not a webcomic.
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djw175 posted:What was that webcomic with a man with a TV for a head that wasn't Riceboy?
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Renaissance Robot posted:
That's the one. Thanks
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On an unrelated note, I'm chugging my way through Pastel Defender Heliotrope after someone linked it the other day, and it's a real experience. Like, I'm charmed by the audacity of the ideas on display here. This is an artificial intelligence from a higher, decaying dimension who appears as a Pac Man ghost puppet with a bow on its head? For some reason in this panel it has a little waistcoat and a helmet too. What I'm saying is that the Kokoro Wish meme didn't prepare me for this level of complexity.
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Android Blues posted:On an unrelated note, I'm chugging my way through Pastel Defender Heliotrope after someone linked it the other day, and it's a real experience. I didn't see the clip where that quote happens on youtube, but it's quoting and dressed up as this guy. pop culture references all the way down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9BcY7w2HmE A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 15:15 on May 8, 2016 |
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majormonotone posted:it's really easy to tell them apart though and band vs band doesn't fall into this category Other LGBT characters include Atomic Domme and Zero.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:I didn't see the clip where that quote happens on youtube, but it's quoting and dressed up as this guy. pop culture references all the way down. Suddenly that page makes a lot more sense...
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Android Blues posted:Anyway, yeah, while I have a certain amount of dubiousness for horny dudes making comics with lesbians in them, my bar on that is pretty low. It's a sniff test kind of thing. I'd never say QC really fell into that category, and I'm basically fine with stuff like Girly or whatever too. It's only the ones where you can tell there's a certain low level disrespect for women running through them that give me the skeeves - and in my experience, those are really rare. I can't really complain about Girly too much, it helped me in a time where I was confused about that sort of thing and there wasn't much of an equivalent at the time.
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Dogwood Fleet posted:I can't really complain about Girly too much, it helped me in a time where I was confused about that sort of thing and there wasn't much of an equivalent at the time. That's how I feel about it, too. Like, sure it's a vaguely sexy comic about women loving on each other written by a man. But I definitely know there were a bunch of teen girls who read that stuff and were like, hey, yeah, I vibe on this. Even if the author of a comic with bi or gay women in it isn't one themselves, people who are or are questioning can still really benefit from seeing themselves reflected in something, so long as the work itself isn't real bad about the subject matter.
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I think the line might be when it becomes painfully obvious that a writer (usually male) is doing it entirely for self-serving reasons vs just to tell a good, maybe sexy, story. You might see little flags going up like frequent objectification, where the reader is forced to focus on some part of the character's body even in circumstances that are contextually-inappropriate to emphasize sexual characteristics. Like random boob/butt shots when characters are talking about something completely irrelevant. This is in contrast to scenes where the character... the best word I can think of is "invites" it. Like when you're reading Chester XYV or Oglaf ( for both of those, obviously) none of the female characters feel objectified even when they're actually loving. Today's Oglaf even has a full-frontal female nudity and it's entirely incidental to her killer dress. When you see a lot of shameless objectification it's hard not to assume that any lesbian relationships aren't also there primarily for the male writer's sexual fantasies. It can also come off as super disingenuous if the writer uses lesbian characters as a way to humblebrag on twitter or as leverage in internet arguments about feminism, as if writing a lesbian relationship gives some innately deep insight into the female psyche and same-sex experience that overwrites the male writer's own position of privilege.
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Property Of Hate is probably my favorite webcomic that I've ever read and that's all I can say on it.
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Nuns with Guns posted:I think the line might be when it becomes painfully obvious that a writer (usually male) is doing it entirely for self-serving reasons vs just to tell a good, maybe sexy, story. You might see little flags going up like frequent objectification, where the reader is forced to focus on some part of the character's body even in circumstances that are contextually-inappropriate to emphasize sexual characteristics. Like random boob/butt shots when characters are talking about something completely irrelevant. This is in contrast to scenes where the character... the best word I can think of is "invites" it. Like when you're reading Chester XYV or Oglaf ( Yeah, pretty much exactly. The key thing is that a story needs to respect the characters as characters first, and if they happen to do sexy things sometimes, sure, so long as they're written in a way that doesn't privilege that above them having a voice, autonomy, goals, motivations, etc. Like you say, framing is really important, and how the comic's "camera" treats the characters and their bodies speaks volumes. Really complex subject. Interesting conversation though!
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KittyEmpress posted:Property Of Hate is probably my favorite webcomic that I've ever read and that's all I can say on it. It's exactly the kind of bold self-indulgence we need. Only problem is that's it a bit too weird and complex with it's world. I'd have to reread it just to get my bearings. Maybe when it's finished?
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Yeah I've had to reread it more than once. On the other hand it means I get to reread it more than once.
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Android Blues posted:I think this was Curvy? Your question made me go and check it out and apparently it's still running, though it's kinda tough to tell what the update pace is like since the comics aren't dated. Once a week on Friday evenings, sometimes Saturday mornings if something goes wrong.
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Someone linked Sword Interval and I've been reading it. Interesting. I like the art. Fall is the Beast of the Apocalypse, right?
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the trend of sexy lesbian comics doesn't require some deep soul-searching unifying theory guys it's just funny, in the way that stuff trying and failing to grant profundity and social importance to the author's boners is always funny. it is okay to laugh.The Lone Badger posted:Someone linked Sword Interval and I've been reading it. Interesting. I like the art. yeah definitely A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 06:25 on May 9, 2016 |
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where are these sexy lesbian comics anyway. uh asking for a friend
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fun hater posted:where are these sexy lesbian comics anyway. uh asking for a friend Moon Over June and Gunnerkrieg Court.
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mycot posted:Moon Over June and Gunnerkrieg Court. perhaps i could clarify: i said 'sexy' and did not mention children at all e: actually if youre getting off on gunnerkrigg court you should probably put yourself on a watch list of some sort
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fun hater posted:perhaps i could clarify: i said 'sexy' and did not mention children at all From the rate the thread was going, the Gunnerkrieg Court thread is probably 100% waifu chat by now, I'm sorry to say.
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If you're getting off to Moon Over June you may be an eldritch abomination, please contact Arkham University for a checkup.
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eglamore would make a good waifu
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Tollymain posted:eglamore would make a good waifu Eglamore is the bomb but something about that thread (and other places discussing GC last time I checked) going "Sword Waifu! Bird Waifu! Fire Waifu!" really rubbed me the wrong way.
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i'm reasonably sure at no point has the thread ever been like what you are describing (barring a few weird occasional outliers who don't post long)
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MikeJF posted:Mostly we just make the same tired Eglamore joke over and over and mock Chibisoma's breakdown. You're forgetting all the debates about proper parenting.
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MikeJF posted:Mostly we just make the same tired Eglamore joke over and over and mock Chibisoma's breakdown. Surely Chibisoma thing must be tired by now, too? It happened five years ago and he hasn't posted in the SA thread since then.
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The Lone Badger posted:Someone linked Sword Interval and I've been reading it. Interesting. I like the art. Huh. How long has webtoons.com been hosting original English-language series?
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Nuns with Guns posted:Surely Chibisoma thing must be tired by now, too? It happened five years ago and he hasn't posted in the SA thread since then. it only gets referred to every few months at most it's not something that happens on every page 
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the proliferation of ironic/semi-ironic/unironic "waifu" chat throughout the internet has destroyed discourse about media
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The moe personification of semi-ironic waifu chat is my waifu
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Alaois posted:the proliferation of ironic/semi-ironic/unironic "waifu" chat throughout the internet has destroyed discourse about media I always take it as loser 4chan posters outing themselves.
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