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Lore-talk time: Is the general consensus that Lothric and it's surrounding areas are where Lordran used to be? Some of the examples are pretty obvious (Farron Keep is what used to be Darkroot Forest and Smouldering Lake is well...blatantly obvious) but what about some of the other areas? And also the established places. There are NPC's from Astora and Venhiem, even though the latter was supposedly destroyed according to DkS2. The Drang stuff is also interesting to think about.
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homeless poster posted:i can't be the only person who attacks every chest exactly once, no matter what, even if i know based on replaying the game, that it's not a mimic, right? i feel like random mimics wouldn't make any difference, unless they could randomly be things like bonfires or crates or trees or truly a random assortment of things. I just look at the chain, and hit the chest in the rare event I can't see the chain.
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May 9, 2016 15:36
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I guess the Sun and Thron Rings were too 'fun and interesting' to be brought over from DS2 because those would have been perfect to stop body blocking.
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May 9, 2016 15:36
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JetsGuy posted:Keep in mind though that the way to get tounges aside from the few random lucky ones requires equipping the covenant item, which will void the questline. Why are almost all of the questlines so easy to break in this game?!
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May 9, 2016 15:37
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im pretty sure it doesent void the questline. i think only way to void it is give tongues to the rosaria covenant now.
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May 9, 2016 15:39
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Ice Fist posted:My reaction to every boss I've encountered so far: Ice Fist posted:I completed another big chunk of the game so it's time for BOSS REACTIONS from where I left off So here we go, finally beat the game... since I did boss reaction posts for the previous sections, here's the final section of the game: NK - Hey cool, I'm fighting a super saiyan riding a dragon. And he hits as hard as Goku too. This is going to take a while. On the plus side, my eventual victory over him was near perfect and awesome. 22 tries. DA - Hey, this seems like a solid boss fightWHO IS SPITTING poo poo AT ME? 1 Try L&L - Well this seems okay *teleport* WHAT? poo poo. *teleport* *laser beam attack* You died. Oh I killed the boss... aaaaand he's back again and this time with somebody helping him. On my victory try they teleported away from me to a corner of a room and I killed Lothric simultaneously as he healed Lorien so I thought I was going to have to finish Lorien off. Thank God that didn't happen. The fight ended once Lothric died. 10 tries. SoC - Hey. I got this jerk's health down. So close to beating the game (nope, lol he got all his health back  ) - 6 triesI chose to *ending spoilers* not link the fire, but I had hosed up Anri's quest so I didn't get to see whatever that was. The ending was very hopeful seeing as that the entire world just went pitch black. When they say age of dark they aren't loving kidding, but the super grimdark future predicted by everyone saying that "not liking the fire is a huge betrayal the world is gunna suck" definitely isn't happening, at least in the long term. I'm going to try and do that with my 2nd playthrough, which is probably going to be NG again as a DEX/FTH guy. All in all I loved this game and I will definitely be doing multiple playthroughs. I have to give Bloodborne a slight edge in game play in terms of series favorites, but this game beats the pants off DS2. I haven't played DS1, but plan on doing so after the DS3 DLC. I have to eventually play that game to understand why some people geek out at all the references eventually.
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May 9, 2016 15:40
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Ice Fist posted:SoC - Hey. I got this jerk's health down. So close to beating the game (nope, lol he got all his health back My first victory against him was very but not in the same way. I had 111 HP left and no flasks, and I won because I basically went "gently caress it" and went on the all-out offensive. I think I used my last flask when his second phase had like 50% HP left so somehow I got through the last quarter of the fight with no healing. It felt very good. I think it took me four or five tries, I wasn't really counting.
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May 9, 2016 15:43
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HnK416 posted:Lore-talk time: Remember that a lot of the surrounding land is converging upon Lothric. Izalith in particular is explicitly stated as moving (or rather, Cornyx mentions this is hearsay among pyromancers or something to that effect).
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May 9, 2016 15:44
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfINLMA6_qE It's you and me, buddy! We're in this together!
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May 9, 2016 15:44
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Harrow posted:My first victory against him was very I liked how SoC has both Sunlight Spear and also a version of splintering lightning spear from DS2. quote:Remember that a lot of the surrounding land is converging upon Lothric. Izalith in particular is explicitly stated as moving (or rather, Cornyx mentions this is hearsay among pyromancers or something to that effect). When's he say that? I didn't hear it, but it could explain a lot about Eleum Loyce and whether or not it's explicitly on top of Anor Londo. Though I think that Irithyl is built on top of even that, with the snow and all.
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May 9, 2016 15:48
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lite_sleepr posted:Who knew you could put mimics to sleep with undead hunter charms? Nothing in the item description indicates they can be used for this. The extra use for this is; Mimics have a small chance to drop a 'Symbol of Avarice,' which is a mimic for a hat, which weighs a ton and drains your health but gives you a big +soul% and +item find% bonus. If you kill a mimic, it will not respawn. If you throw a charm at a mimic, it will drop its item, and have a chance to drop a Hat. If you hit a bonfire and come back, you can chuck another charm for another chance at getting Hat as many times as you care to. Recommend eating coins and holding the crystal rapier. I'm pretty sure the closest bonfire-to-chest gap is the first mimic on the castle wall, that drops the deep axe. So, if you want to farm a mimic hat, which will greatly help farming any other rare drop, don't kill that first mimic.
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May 9, 2016 15:54
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StringOfLetters posted:The extra use for this is; Mimics have a small chance to drop a 'Symbol of Avarice,' which is a mimic for a hat, which weighs a ton and drains your health but gives you a big +soul% and +item find% bonus. If you kill a mimic, it will not respawn. If you throw a charm at a mimic, it will drop its item, and have a chance to drop a Hat. If you hit a bonfire and come back, you can chuck another charm for another chance at getting Hat as many times as you care to. Recommend eating coins and holding the crystal rapier.
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May 9, 2016 15:57
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Thanks for correcting muh stupid mistakes y'all.  Other hot takes: One thing I really like about playing as a sorcerer is that mimics are stupidly easy. Cast hidden body, pelt it with magic. You can literally stand right in front of it hitting it with great heavy soul arrows and it doesn't even transform. It just sits there still pretending to be a chest until it dies. Warning: One time in Profaned Capital this wasn't the case and it grabbed me and ate me. gently caress mimics.
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May 9, 2016 15:59
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StringOfLetters posted:The extra use for this is; Mimics have a small chance to drop a 'Symbol of Avarice,' which is a mimic for a hat, which weighs a ton and drains your health but gives you a big +soul% and +item find% bonus. If you kill a mimic, it will not respawn. If you throw a charm at a mimic, it will drop its item, and have a chance to drop a Hat. If you hit a bonfire and come back, you can chuck another charm for another chance at getting Hat as many times as you care to. Recommend eating coins and holding the crystal rapier. According to wiki each charm thrown at it counts as a roll, so you apparently do not have to go to a bonfire each time. http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Symbol+of+Avarice
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May 9, 2016 16:04
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A thing I missed in Profaned Capital: is that the actual loving Lordvessel? As soon as I saw someone mention in this thread that Profaned Capital is the Lordvessel's resting place I just had to go back and look.
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May 9, 2016 16:04
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Just beat the Dancer and is it just me or does the difficulty spike way up after this point? Everything is destroying me in 2 hits, even with 27 VIG, am I missing something?
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May 9, 2016 16:27
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MZ posted:Just beat the Dancer and is it just me or does the difficulty spike way up after this point? Everything is destroying me in 2 hits, even with 27 VIG, am I missing something? Part of the issue is that you may be letting the Lothric Priests (the brown robed guys) do their little buff, which massively increases the damage of surrounding Lothric Knights. In general, though, everything starts hitting like a tank shell after Dancer.
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May 9, 2016 16:30
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MZ posted:Just beat the Dancer and is it just me or does the difficulty spike way up after this point? Everything is destroying me in 2 hits, even with 27 VIG, am I missing something? Don't let the knights get buffed. They're big enough assholes without it. But yes, poo poo gets harder after Dancer for sure.
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May 9, 2016 16:31
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I'd argue there is a significant spike. Felt like it on both my playthroughs. I assumed it was to make it harder to cheese your way through the game by doing Dancer early. Also Gotthard Twinswords woah baby. poo poo is clutch. Gott me hard for sure.
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May 9, 2016 16:33
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HnK416 posted:Lore-talk time: I dispute this. To me everything points seems that Lothric is a place where everything converges, as in literally appearing out of nowhere like the entire world is collapsing unto itself. The final view in the Kiln of the Flame is the culmination of this. It's as if everything just smashed together by some unseen force. WaltherFeng fucked around with this message at 16:39 on May 9, 2016 |
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May 9, 2016 16:36
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WaltherFeng posted:I dispute this heavily. To me everything points to the fact that Lothric is a place where everything converges, as in literally appearing out of nowhere as if the entire world is collapsing unto itself. Lothric itself seems to be an actual kingdom, but it did end up being ground zero for everything converging. Lothric has enough history--complete with a royal family and a Flame-linking mythology of its own--that I think it existed before all the convergence happened. But I also think it's very fair to say that it isn't built on top of Lordran, but rather right next to it as the convergence happens. Tequila Sunrise posted:Also Gotthard Twinswords woah baby. poo poo is clutch. Gott me hard for sure. Love the Gotthard Twinswords. I'm curious how nasty the nerf to their L1 stamina consumption is in 1.06 and I can't try it out until I get home from work. I'm sure they're still awesome just for their weapon art and the rolling L1, though.
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May 9, 2016 16:38
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StringOfLetters posted:
what the gently caress
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May 9, 2016 16:43
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Harrow posted:Love the Gotthard Twinswords. I'm curious how nasty the nerf to their L1 stamina consumption is in 1.06 and I can't try it out until I get home from work. I'm sure they're still awesome just for their weapon art and the rolling L1, though. Feels fine, but I never played them pre-nerf. I got them and Dancer's Blades, I like them both but Dancer's gets kind of poo poo on by resistances from magic/fire.
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May 9, 2016 16:43
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Jose posted:what the gently caress It's a tricky covenant to join. Luckily you can do it pretty early in NG+.
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May 9, 2016 16:44
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Jose posted:what the gently caress just do sirris quest. the ending to her quest gives you the covenant too.
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May 9, 2016 16:45
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Sieg, poor friend, breathes his last during the bossfight. Is he dead for good? the answer is yes, isn't it? 
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May 9, 2016 16:46
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Yeah. That's what I think. As for what exactly causes this "implosion" in Lothric so to speak, I don't know.
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Iretep posted:just do sirris quest. the ending to her quest gives you the covenant too. He can't if he handed any pale tongues to Rosaria, other than for respeccing
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Harrow posted:Lothric itself seems to be an actual kingdom, but it did end up being ground zero for everything converging. Lothric has enough history--complete with a royal family and a Flame-linking mythology of its own--that I think it existed before all the convergence happened. But I also think it's very fair to say that it isn't built on top of Lordran, but rather right next to it as the convergence happens. As a new player with this game, i understand this concept but it seems really out there as an explanation. From what I gather its been thousands of years since the first linking of the flame. And multiple kingdoms have risen and fallen and such, just the amount of Fire Keeper bodies in the tower shows that an immense amount of time has passed since the first linking. To me it seems like everything keeps happening in the same general area of the world, so time/dimensional fuckery makes more sense why Anor Londo shows up, rather than the actual physical land mass shifting there. To me that makes no sense since it brings up so many questions. The land does not have any areas where its sharply sheared off or anything, like if part of Anor Londo looked like it was cut off with a knife it would make more sense. Everything is connected and fits together, like the buildings and such grew up around on another. To me it seems its all in the same place, but so much time has passed between events that the kingdoms have all changed, parts of the land has changed, etc. And now that poo poo is going sideways again, poo poo like the silver knights start showing back up.
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May 9, 2016 16:53
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double nine posted:Sieg, poor friend, breathes his last during the bossfight. Yar he dead. Least he goes out with a bang.
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May 9, 2016 16:54
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JetsGuy posted:Speaking of NPC questlines whatever happens to that dude who's all cynical and laughs at how stupid it all it in the Shrine but disappears soon after Faron? If you get both dragon stones, he'll ask Andre to pass along a message to meet him at Abyss Watchers bonfire. If you visit, he'll fight you for the title of Dragonkin Prime, the winner getting a pair of shiny stones, and the loser losing their stones. He can be rematched, though.
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May 9, 2016 16:59
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WaltherFeng posted:Yeah. That's what I think. As for what exactly causes this "implosion" in Lothric so to speak, I don't know.
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May 9, 2016 17:00
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Harrow posted:A thing I missed in Profaned Capital: is that the actual loving Lordvessel? As soon as I saw someone mention in this thread that Profaned Capital is the Lordvessel's resting place I just had to go back and look. I don't see much resemblance to Firelink Altar.
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May 9, 2016 17:05
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Shindragon posted:Yar he dead. Least he goes out with a bang. visions of lonely ...
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May 9, 2016 17:06
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WoodrowSkillson posted:As a new player with this game, i understand this concept but it seems really out there as an explanation. From what I gather its been thousands of years since the first linking of the flame. And multiple kingdoms have risen and fallen and such, just the amount of Fire Keeper bodies in the tower shows that an immense amount of time has passed since the first linking. I haven't read nearly all the item descriptions but one I like to always bring up is the banner Emma gives you. It states "When High Wall appeared" and you can clearly see how Lothric is cut off from the Undead Settlement.
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May 9, 2016 17:07
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WaltherFeng posted:I haven't read nearly all the item descriptions but one I like to always bring up is the banner Emma gives you. It states "When High Wall appeared" and you can clearly see how Lothric is cut off from the Undead Settlement. I like the idea that the Dark Souls universe just cannot abide the notion of a vast palace not resting on top of an enormous plateau.
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May 9, 2016 17:10
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Harrow posted:
You can do one less L1 and two less L2's than it was before. Considering the damage increase on L1's, this seems mostly negligible and mostly for stopping stunlocking.
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May 9, 2016 17:11
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WoodrowSkillson posted:As a new player with this game, i understand this concept but it seems really out there as an explanation. From what I gather its been thousands of years since the first linking of the flame. And multiple kingdoms have risen and fallen and such, just the amount of Fire Keeper bodies in the tower shows that an immense amount of time has passed since the first linking. Yeah, it's an out-there explanation, but it's the one the game seems to be going with. Remember in the opening cinematic, the narrator mentions that the "transitory lands of the Lords of Cinder" are converging on Lothric. As to what's going on with the Fire Keeper corpses in Firelink Shrine--I'm convinced something fucky is going on. Have you been to Untended Graves yet? It gives you a whole new angle on the timeline that's going on and throws into question just how long this particular cycle has been dragging on for. Gologle posted:You can do one less L1 and two less L2's than it was before. Considering the damage increase on L1's, this seems mostly negligible and mostly for stopping stunlocking. I'd heard the Gotthards only got the Stamina nerf and not the L1 damage increase, but either way I'm glad to hear it's still perfectly good.
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I have such mixed feelings on invaders. On one hand it's super annoying that pretty much every time you invade you end up invading into a bunch of "SUMMONING PHANTOM xXx420_WeedKillaxXx" and it's almost always 1v3, even when you do fight them the host just keeps spamming summons. On the other, I've certainly been at points where I was just trying to get through a tough area and please leave me alone. In the end, I side with the invaders more than I do the other. It's just so annoying to invade and just see three phantoms waving at you. Thank God for hidden body. 
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