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snuggle baby luvs hugs
Aug 30, 2005

Flipperwaldt posted:

what if you froze it and lifted it all out in one piece

Can some physics goon figure out how many helicopters this would take

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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

never trust an elf posted:

Can some physics goon figure out how many helicopters this would take

if they were all pushing down on a flat surface they're trying to carry would it even work

snuggle baby luvs hugs
Aug 30, 2005

Aliquid posted:

if they were all pushing down on a flat surface they're trying to carry would it even work

Ok how many forklifts

Eskaton
Aug 13, 2014
A someone from MI, the amount of ignorance displayed on the last page about the lakes, for the lack of a better word, triggered me.

I can tell you the ports in the NE lower peninsula are shipping out limestone (from the world's largest limestone quarries), while the one port with some receiving is Alpena, bringing in some coal for the one of the world's largest cement factories.

As much of a backwater the area is compared to the rest of the peninsula, it's kinda important in that regard.

Fojar38 posted:

Ignoring the likely inevitability of this occurring, every time I have been to Montreal it has been a decaying piece of poo poo and goons only like it because you get good weed there.

My uncle who works for Air Canada really likes Montreal. Then again, he lived right next to Detroit (Lincoln Park) for a long time.

Eskaton fucked around with this message at 21:04 on May 8, 2016

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

never trust an elf posted:

Can some physics goon figure out how many helicopters this would take

I asked the internet (and said the combined volume of all Great Lakes), and someone who's at least somewhat smart said "it would take about a trillion helicopters" which means each has about an eighth of a square meter (1.3 sq ft) of ice surface to attach to, in other words you have to stack the helicopters 6000 tall, which is a 50 km (31 mile) tall stack of helicopters.

Soviet Commubot
Oct 22, 2008


Eskaton posted:

I can tell you the ports in the NE lower peninsula are shipping out limestone (from the world's largest limestone quarries), while the one port with some receiving is Alpena, bringing in some coal for the one of the world's largest cement factories.

As much of a backwater the area is compared to the rest of the peninsula, it's kinda important in that regard.

Alpena is also notable for being home to the Alpena Combat Readiness Training Center, a Michigan Air Guard base that has the largest military training airspace east of the Mississippi. Camp Grayling towards the western edge of the military airspace is the largest Guard base in the country and temporarily hosts troops from the surrounding states as well as foreign countries, including Latvia and Canada throughout the year. Being located in northwoods militia territory, both of these facilities make regular appearances in UN invasion and FEMA camp conspiracy theories, including an alleged militia plot to attack Camp Grayling in 1995. I spent a great deal of time all over Grayling when I was in the Guard and I unfortunately didn't find any signs of FEMA coffins or camps for political undesireables :(



Eskaton posted:

My uncle who works for Air Canada really likes Montreal. Then again, he lived right next to Detroit (Lincoln Park) for a long time.

I really like Montreal but I speak French and I grew up out by Clare so I'm not all that hard to please.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Fojar38 posted:

Ignoring the likely inevitability of this occurring, every time I have been to Montreal it has been a decaying piece of poo poo and goons only like it because you get good weed there.

Inevitability? More like English-speaking Canadians torpedoed its rightful growth because they didn't like Quebec. Toronto is garbage and should be on the same level as Calgary.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



fishmech posted:

Having French or having population: pick one

I would assume that's a very acceptable trade-off to Québec.

Take the plunge! Okay!
Feb 24, 2007



Haven't seen this one in the thread:

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

mcustic posted:

Haven't seen this one in the thread:



I can translate the vignettes if you want, just ask me

I'll do the London one:

"Only policemen, Irishmen, horseguards, sweepers, lawn-tennis players or preachers live there. Foggy weather everyday, from 6 AM to midnight, save on the 29th of February on leap years."

Hell, I'll throw in Edimburgh

"One brilliant Scot has just discovered trousers. The city wants to erect an equestrian statue in his image. Sir Walter Scott, Fergus Mac Gregor, Diana Vernon and a few others reactionary Scots are the last to shun this ingenious article of clothing"

Take the plunge! Okay!
Feb 24, 2007



Naples and Constantinople look pretty racist, could you please do those?

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

never trust an elf posted:

Ok how many forklifts

Just one. But it'd have to be really big.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

mcustic posted:

Haven't seen this one in the thread:


That reminds me that I need to water my cannons!

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

mcustic posted:

Naples and Constantinople look pretty racist, could you please do those?

The Naples one is pretty racist, the Constantinople is bad puns.

Naples:

" 400 000 inhabitants, all lazzarones (save for the municipal authorities, of course), they walk around naked, watching Mt Vesuvius fumes. Purely for entertainment, they pick pockets and mug with brio."

(faire la montre and faire le mouchoir is old slang for picking pockets/stealing)

Constantinople

" Great Wall on the Golden Horne, with its numerous cupolas and minarets. Due to the lack of space on the drawing, we are unable to also show you the Gate, the Divan, the Ladder of the Levant and the Key of the Dardanelles. All of these items are on display at the Museum of the Seraglio, speak to the Chief Eunuch, available from 10 pm to 5 am."

all of these are nicknames of Istanbul, I think.

Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.
The first two are references to the Ottoman government, specifically the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublime_Porte]Sublime Porte[/u] and [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Council_%28Ottoman_Empire%29]Imperial Council[/u].

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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cheerfullydrab posted:

Inevitability? More like English-speaking Canadians torpedoed its rightful growth because they didn't like Quebec. Toronto is garbage and should be on the same level as Calgary.

Oh boy this should be good. Explain how those dastardly anglophones sabotaged glorious Quebec's march into the future by trading with the superpower that Canada shares a border with.

Eskaton
Aug 13, 2014

Soviet Commubot posted:

Alpena is also notable for being home to the Alpena Combat Readiness Training Center, a Michigan Air Guard base that has the largest military training airspace east of the Mississippi. Camp Grayling towards the western edge of the military airspace is the largest Guard base in the country and temporarily hosts troops from the surrounding states as well as foreign countries, including Latvia and Canada throughout the year. Being located in northwoods militia territory, both of these facilities make regular appearances in UN invasion and FEMA camp conspiracy theories, including an alleged militia plot to attack Camp Grayling in 1995. I spent a great deal of time all over Grayling when I was in the Guard and I unfortunately didn't find any signs of FEMA coffins or camps for political undesireables :(

TBH, the militias are more of a metro Detroit thing. I haven't heard anyone talk about the militia in my life in Oscoda, but every news story is some suburban dad playing soldier near Detroit. People are more upset that the cleaning agents used at Wurtsmith are leaking into the groundwater.

Eskaton fucked around with this message at 21:19 on May 8, 2016

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Kurtofan posted:

The Naples one is pretty racist, the Constantinople is bad puns.

Naples:

" 400 000 inhabitants, all lazzarones (save for the municipal authorities, of course), they walk around naked, watching Mt Vesuvius fumes. Purely for entertainment, they pick pockets and mug with brio."

(faire la montre and faire le mouchoir is old slang for picking pockets/stealing)

Constantinople

" Great Wall on the Golden Horne, with its numerous cupolas and minarets. Due to the lack of space on the drawing, we are unable to also show you the Gate, the Divan, the Ladder of the Levant and the Key of the Dardanelles. All of these items are on display at the Museum of the Seraglio, speak to the Chief Eunuch, available from 10 pm to 5 am."

all of these are nicknames of Istanbul, I think.

How are you able to actually read the text? It's so tiny.

Maybe it's because I can't expand the image beyond the tables for some reason.

Soviet Commubot
Oct 22, 2008


They became a metro Detroit thing once Norm Olson packed up and moved to Alaska and the statewide organization fell apart, prior to that they had their "headquarters" up in Alanson and there were units all over up north. A lot of the middle aged guys in my little poo poo-village used to go play soldier around Rosebush and Gaylord a few times a year, even after the whole OKC thing made it not quite so acceptable.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Phlegmish posted:

How are you able to actually read the text? It's so tiny.

Maybe it's because I can't expand the image beyond the tables for some reason.

I opened it in a new tab.

Pope Hilarius II
Nov 10, 2008

mcustic posted:

Haven't seen this one in the thread:



I don't get why Belgium is a wolf/dog with a Prussian helmet admiring itself in a mirror?

Redeye Flight
Mar 26, 2010

God, I'm so tired. What the hell did I post last night?
Belgium desperately wanted to become a world power at about the time that map was made, or at least King Leopold II did. This led to the creation of the Belgian Congo and one of the great atrocities of human history. Most of the profits from the Congo went directly into the King's pockets, and thus into ostentatious architecture and grandstanding.

So Belgium is putting on the trappings of power, but it's really more for itself than anyone else.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



It predicts the channel tunnel, which is neat. Wonder if that is because of the idea for that existing back then, or if it is more a symbol for something in this instance.

Also: Poland-Russia: filled with farts for some reason.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Flipperwaldt posted:

It predicts the channel tunnel, which is neat. Wonder if that is because of the idea for that existing back then, or if it is more a symbol for something in this instance.

Also: Poland-Russia: filled with farts for some reason.


The first "serious" Channel Tunnel proposal was from about 1802. Being before the invention of real railroads, it was to be to traveled by horse carts, and with an artificial island in the middle of the channel for changing horses on the carriages and feeding the just used horses.

From the 1830s to the 1850s another French scientist and engineer conducted extensive surveys, and then presented a plan to Napoleon III for a railway tunnel under the channel, to be constructed through mining and with attempts at airshafts, to be ventilated with stationary steam engines to power fans.

Between 1876 and 1882, a project was first agreed upon, and then started, to construct a railway tunnel under the channel. It was canceled in 1882 due to English fears of breached national defenses. The French side had successfully gone a mile or so out from the start, and same with the British side - both tunnels ended up being encountered by the final chunnel's crews.

And immediately after World War I, it was proposed again, this time to ensure the British could more readily come to french defenses in case of another war,

Basically, this stuff was proposed a lot, as well as making chains of artificial islands with linking bridges.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



Yeah, I was vaguely aware of most of that. I'm more wondering if that's why it's on the map, or if it is some stab at a migration stream at the time or something about England and France being buddy-buddy... not! or something more abstract like that.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Give them a couple of decades and Israel should have solved this problem.

Through genocide.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

"the lengths israel will go for peace".jpg

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I remember the outrage over the title of that President Carter book, "Palestine: Peace, Not Apartheid" :laugh:

Soviet Commubot
Oct 22, 2008


Politically loaded because Crimea is in Ukraine.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Soviet Commubot posted:

Politically loaded because Crimea is in Ukraine.



I like all the people waiting to learn Swedish until they get to Sweden

fade5
May 31, 2012

by exmarx

Soviet Commubot posted:

Politically loaded because Crimea is in Ukraine.


Wait, where's Turkish on the map? I don't see any country shaded dark green.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



I don't see Italian, either.

I hope there's a minor Pacific Island nation where people learn Turkish just to be special.

sweek0
May 22, 2006

Let me fall out the window
With confetti in my hair
Deal out jacks or better
On a blanket by the stairs
I'll tell you all my secrets
But I lie about my past

fishmech posted:

I like all the people waiting to learn Swedish until they get to Sweden

It makes sense with the very high number of refugees there who aren't exactly able to teach themselves before they arrive.

I'm surprised English is still the number one language for such a big part of Europe given the high level of fluent English speakers there.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



In proportional terms, mainland Europe actually does not have that many fluent English speakers when you take the big countries into account. And Scandinavia's not in pink on that map. That leaves the Netherlands and Flanders where young people are generally capable of speaking Sitcom English, though whether it is truly fluent is a different matter.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


TinTower posted:

Give them a couple of decades and Israel should have solved this problem.

Through genocide.

Don't worry, the editorial boards of the NYT, Atlantic, New Republic, etc, will still be screaming about leftist antisemitism and how the Jews have a right to Palestine through 5000 years of Blut und Boden

sweek0
May 22, 2006

Let me fall out the window
With confetti in my hair
Deal out jacks or better
On a blanket by the stairs
I'll tell you all my secrets
But I lie about my past

Phlegmish posted:

In proportional terms, mainland Europe actually does not have that many fluent English speakers when you take the big countries into account. And Scandinavia's not in pink on that map. That leaves the Netherlands and Flanders where young people are generally capable of speaking Sitcom English, though whether it is truly fluent is a different matter.

Yeah I meant relatively fluent, and it's especialy the Netherlands and Belgium where I would've expected it to be Spanish or something like that.

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

Soviet Commubot posted:

Politically loaded because Crimea is in Ukraine.



Lesotho prefers Spanish over South Africa's French. No data for French Guyana. Belizeans try to learn Spanish (no wonder, really). German being popular in Namibia is a bit of a surprise, probably a disproportionate number of internet users being descended from German settlers. Why is Iran and Pakistan more interested in French than their neighbours? Why is Spanish so popular in Scandinavia and Israel? Why is there Italian and Turkish in the key when they are not on the map itself?

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008


I can't leave Elvis Stahr unremarked upon.

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TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Kopijeger posted:

German being popular in Namibia is a bit of a surprise, probably a disproportionate number of internet users being descended from German settlers.

It's more likely proportionate; Namibia is a former German colony.

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