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A.o.D. posted:I think that 8 frames can maybe make the difference between reacting to a move fast enough to block it when walking forward and eating it for no good reason? Maybe? It kinda does, yeah. I know I eat a lot less stuff on neutral playing any GGPO game, SF4, even Melty Blood Bad Netcode Edition than I do in SFV. It also makes for a worse ranked experience because people will do whatever the gently caress and it will WORK because you can't really react to it (and you can't really predict stuff in a FT1 set). It reminds me of playing SF4 casuals on a big-rear end TV in a tournament I went to. A friend of mine just did random neckbreakers with Ibuki and I couldn't block on time, because that poo poo had HORRENDOUS input lag. I knew they were coming, but I couldn't react to them on 11f lag. Well, I could, but I wouldn't block on time.
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May 9, 2016 03:46
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A.o.D. posted:I think that 8 frames can maybe make the difference between reacting to a move fast enough to block it when walking forward and eating it for no good reason? Maybe? absolutely. it also means that when you see an overhead and look at frame data and think its fair, subtract eight from the startup and see if that number is fair too also, fight me in MSH. don't duck me
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May 9, 2016 03:56
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A.o.D. posted:I think that 8 frames can maybe make the difference between reacting to a move fast enough to block it when walking forward and eating it for no good reason? Maybe? Definitely. It's like playing the game over a laggy connection even when you're offline.
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Zand posted:absolutely. it also means that when you see an overhead and look at frame data and think its fair, subtract eight from the startup and see if that number is fair too I don't know how. Also I haven't played MSH in over 17 years. edit: You know, in some ways, the input delay turns reacting to Ryu's 16 frame dash into trying to react to an 8 frame dash. No wonder people get away with so much bullshit with the top tier characters. The window to deal with the nonsense is so very small.
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To be honest, I was super surprised that Other Ocean was able to fix the input lag in Ultra on PS4. Not holding out hope for this one though, even if the top players start complaining about it.
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is this why all my aa's trade or get beaten? i thought i just sucked
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Real hurthling! posted:is this why all my aa's trade or get beaten? i thought i just sucked It's also why links feel so loving weird
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May 9, 2016 05:20
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Pomp posted:It's also why links feel so loving weird they do feel pretty weird but i thought that's just the way they are since i only played chain combo games prior to sfv
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May 9, 2016 05:21
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CrashTestVictim posted:I know isn't a deluge of FANG info floating around but does anyone know what the frame data is on FANG's cr.HK (crush and non) xx V-trigger is? I'm having some issues comboing out of it sometimes compared to df.HP xx V-trigger. How do I even calculate advantage on V-Trigger cancels? +6 +8. Links into cr.mp normally or standing HP on counter hit.
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What got people talking about 8 F R A M E S at Dreamhack? Did pro players finally complain about it or something?
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Booyah- posted:What got people talking about 8 F R A M E S at Dreamhack? Did pro players finally complain about it or something? I wanna say it was Snake getting taken out
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Booyah- posted:What got people talking about 8 F R A M E S at Dreamhack? Did pro players finally complain about it or something? Surprisingly few have brought it up, but it clearly is affecting the viable playstyles in the game. Characters with the best and most practical knockdown mixups(Ken, ryu, mika) and runaway playstyles like nash are doing the best, makes complete sense to me.
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May 9, 2016 06:23
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Sick! Thats DOPE posted:Surprisingly few have brought it up I wonder why people who have a vested interest in the game's success have not mentioned a humongous flaw in the game
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AnonSpore posted:I wonder why people who have a vested interest in the game's success have not mentioned a humongous flaw in the game uhhh if you remember the logic from this thread and the last previously that doesnt make any sense. so, no...
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AnonSpore posted:I wonder why people who have a vested interest in the game's success have not mentioned a humongous flaw in the game Pro gamers are historically not great at keeping their opinions to themselves. It takes a lot to believe that there's suddenly a concerted (and successful!) secret agreement to hype up SF5 among top players. And nobody trot out the ol' "Capcom paid them off" argument because Capcom has no fuckin' money, they couldn't take EVO Top 8 out to Sizzler without asking Sony to cover the tip.
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AnonSpore posted:I wonder why people who have a vested interest in the game's success have not mentioned a humongous flaw in the game Max is starting to talk about it on twitter, but he's the only one of the big names who has mentioned this so far... actually maybe not according to earlier in the thread. Don't worry about that though, here buy this lovely gamer chair. Night Blade fucked around with this message at 07:32 on May 9, 2016 |
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Sarchasm posted:Pro gamers are historically not great at keeping their opinions to themselves. It takes a lot to believe that there's suddenly a concerted (and successful!) secret agreement to hype up SF5 among top players. And nobody trot out the ol' "Capcom paid them off" argument because Capcom has no fuckin' money, they couldn't take EVO Top 8 out to Sizzler without asking Sony to cover the tip. Yeah remember all the critical opinions about SFxT before that game came out and it was a flaming shitpile like everyone knew it would be and the money around it dried up? I sure do
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AnonSpore posted:Yeah remember all the critical opinions about SFxT before that game came out and it was a flaming shitpile like everyone knew it would be and the money around it dried up? I sure do I'm willing to chalk that up to optimism. It was Tekken and Street Fighter, everyone wanted it to be good despite the evidence to the contrary. I mean, maybe I'm wrong! Maybe the number one topic in the Discord Illuminati is how to swallow your hatred and somehow pretend to like SF5, but in my experience that kind of conspiracy theory is always the longshot. The simplest explanation is that the disparate and unaffiliated people who say they like SF5 probably just like SF5. Now if you want to talk to me about how Justin Wong is holding back the combustion engine that runs on water, that's a possibility I'll entertain.
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Sarchasm posted:I'm willing to chalk that up to optimism. It was Tekken and Street Fighter, everyone wanted it to be good despite the evidence to the contrary. I mean, maybe I'm wrong! Maybe the number one topic in the Discord Illuminati is how to swallow your hatred and somehow pretend to like SF5, but in my experience that kind of conspiracy theory is always the longshot. The simplest explanation is that the disparate and unaffiliated people who say they like SF5 probably just like SF5. i bring the hot discord illuminati leaks capcom doesn't want you to see 
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Optimism about how much money they were gonna make heyooo
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Any tips beating Karin as Guile? If I make too many mistakes in that matchups I eat big, stun-heavy combos.
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dhamster posted:Any tips beating Karin as Guile? If I make too many mistakes in that matchups I eat big, stun-heavy combos. That's a karin problem, not a guile problem.
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Sarchasm posted:The simplest explanation is that the disparate and unaffiliated people who say they like SF5 probably just like SF5. this is correct and its proof that we are living in the nadir of fighting games. what a shocker that people accepting a poo poo game like sf4 and the dumb players that came with it eventually led to an even shittier game and dumber community WHO could have predicted this? like anyone who could see something like this coming is probably a genius or something idk.
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May 9, 2016 18:09
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I'm not a genius zand but thanks for the compliment, i'm just excessively cleverer than most
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I have been playing and been awful at FGs for years (like over a decade) and would like to not be a dumb poo poo player anymore. I recognize that SF5 has some serious flaws, but I still find enjoyment playing the game. Do I just abandon this dumb poo poo game, while there is a scene of local players gathering at Arcade UFO weekly that I could be grinding/having fun with to get better? My secret desire is that we all just played kof98 instead, because I find that game way more interesting than anything currently being played.
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Zand posted:this is correct and its proof that we are living in the nadir of fighting games. what a shocker that people accepting a poo poo game like sf4 and the dumb players that came with it eventually led to an even shittier game and dumber community If it makes you feel any better I suspect that people are going to have a hard swing on SF5 in the coming months in response to input lag and netcode issues. Assuming those aren't fixed, of course. They won't be fixed.
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*trying my hardest to convince myself* KOFXIV is gonna set the world on fire
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In Training posted:*trying my hardest to convince myself* KOFXIV is gonna set the world on fire I believe
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Real hurthling! posted:I believe me too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZxiI7A5Sxk i posted this in the fgc stream thread but it's interesting to see infiltration talk about the korean scene
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In Training posted:*trying my hardest to convince myself* KOFXIV is gonna set the world on fire If you mean like the Cleveland River, sure, I'll buy that.
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In Training posted:*trying my hardest to convince myself* KOFXIV is gonna set the world on fire *plays sf4 for 5+ years* why does kof14 look so ugly
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Colorspray posted:I have been playing and been awful at FGs for years (like over a decade) and would like to not be a dumb poo poo player anymore. but having a crew to play with in basically any game is best even if it's a poo poo game like sf5. but sf5 probably won't hold your collective attention for long
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Colorspray posted:I have been playing and been awful at FGs for years (like over a decade) and would like to not be a dumb poo poo player anymore. most of the good players stopped going to ufo from what i heard, but if you're really bad and like sf5 then you'll find the biggest range of people to level up with i think you will get better fastest if you have a rival around your level as well as people who are way better than you to consistently play with, so if you can find that in a game you love then great if not then sf5 isn't the worst thing in the world
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Colorspray posted:I have been playing and been awful at FGs for years (like over a decade) and would like to not be a dumb poo poo player anymore. Keep playing it since it's fun. It's also the latest Street Fighter, and thus will continue to be the most played FG by the competitive scene in years to come. I don't know if Capcom will continue to support and add to this game with the abysmal sales though. I wouldn't be surprised if Urien is the last new character we'll see for this game. CPT and Evo can bring in some new people, but eh. They can't even make easy money right now with their lovely shop.
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