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StringOfLetters posted:No, unfortunately. It does too little damage and has too little stat scaling, you're just going to be tickling everything in the later two thirds of the game. The Composite bow has the same shooting animations as the short bow, but hits a little harder, yet it is also too piddly to be useful. The Rapid Fire shots do even less damage. I suppose the rebuttal to that would be "But you don't need FP to use weapon arts", but still, what the gently caress quick shot? It would literally be faster for me to kill things with normal shots, and take less arrows to do it. "I'll finish off this jailer with my sweet quickshots before he can get close! It would only take two-three normal ones but this is faster! *arrow arrow arrow arrow Oh gently caress ARROW ARROW OH gently caress ARROW* And he's dead right before he hits me, with my shrunken health bar.... Why do I keep trying to use Quick shot again? Maybe it helps more in PvP?" Arrow arrow arrow arrow arrow arrow arrow "Well, I think I might have hit their chain dodges with ONE ARROW so far? Totally worth it-oh right, fractional damage" That said, I still try to keep at LEAST some kind of bow on my swiss army arsenal. When enemies are too stubborn to get pulled, even a shortbow can get the job done for telling an enemy to go gently caress himself with some patience.
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The winged knights are one of my favorite enemies in this whole series, if only for the payoff you get from their ridiculous design at the Grand Archives. Praise the fatty!turtlecrunch posted:They look a bit like flying nervous systems to me. I don't like them either. Which is appropriate given they burst out of the backs of hollows, apparently. I actually quite like them though. There's a very serene beauty in the way they silently glide across the sky.
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:It would look like this Except that's why the True Ending solves the First Sin, kinda - the lady talks about tiny lights in the darkness, tiny fires. You end the unnaturally prolonged Age of Fire (which let's be honest, only had maybe one cycle left in it) and let the world have a chance at a fresh start. Edit: The Butterflies are what (...some?) pilgrims turn into after they bite the dust. I love how creepy they are, and have one or two completely unsubstantiated theories about how that metamorphosis relates to Londor and the pre-Fire world. 
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Thinking of using a save backup in order to respec into this build as a dedicated PvP thing: http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/11524 My intent is to spend most of the time using all that stamina to dodge and make quick little jabs with a fully upgraded lightning rapier, while using the composite bow as backup to hammer them from a distance of they try to make space. I've been spending some time fooling around with the rapier's skill set and they've really started to grow on me. I get the feeling that if you can master the timing both skills would be really effective against anyone not using a shield & spear build. The faith and attunement would also let me carry around a few basic miracles for buffs, healing, and maybe something like force to give me breathing room or open them up for an attack. I was also considering using a fully upgraded blessed target shield to A. Force myself to practice parrying in PvP and B. Give myself a decent passive regen buff to give me some longevity while I dodge. Obviously it would be mediocre in PvE but given that I'm doing this as a test build using save backups, it's not like there'd be too much time investment before I get started. What do you guys think? Any suggestions or criticisms? Edit: Main things I'm uncertain on are my choice of rings, and the exact distribution of points between strength, dexterity, and faith. I'm kind of considerings dropping faith by 5-7 points and throwing those into strength and vitality to let me carry either a lothric knight shield or a silver knight shield, to provide me with a bit better defensive options, while still staying in middle weight class. As for rings I was considering the hornet ring, but I don't think I'm consistently good enough at parrying for it to be worthwhile though. The Leo ring is appealing though. +15% damage if I hit an enemy during their attack animations, and it works for the rapier and the bow. MadJackMcJack posted:I'm kind of the opposite. If someone invades I'll use every dirty trick to murder their face, because they are dirty invaders. InequalityGodzilla fucked around with this message at 19:38 on May 9, 2016 |
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May 9, 2016 19:28
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So most of the twinblades only got a stamina nerf then and no AR buff? Eh.
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Today trend in low range Aldrich invasions, hosts that summon a red friend for even more protection for getting their handicapped asses escorted through the map. Time to get 30 Faith 
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Deified Data posted:So most of the twinblades only got a stamina nerf then and no AR buff? Eh. To be fair with most of them the AR is deceptively low. Two handed L1 costs only a bit more stamina and deals basically more than two normal attacks worth of damage, right?
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I think I misinterpreted it. Looks like base AR is the same but they've adjusted the normally reduced AR of the rapid L1 specifically.
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May 9, 2016 19:41
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Nameless King and the Princes are causing me to make DBZ level sounds lately. Not because recognizing the patterns are hard, but because all the teleporting and target breaking.
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I get more invasions as an Aldrich Faithful at level 15 and +2 items than you'd think. Definitely not chain-invading but it still happens from time to time.. Oddly enough, I can't get any bites for the Farron Watchdogs.
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^burtle posted:Nameless King and the Princes are causing me to make DBZ level sounds lately. Not because recognizing the patterns are hard, but because all the teleporting and target breaking. I didn't know until after I beat the game that the princes were supposed to be a hard encounter. The pontiff on the other hand...
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Cyberventurer posted:I get more invasions as an Aldrich Faithful at level 15 and +2 items than you'd think. Definitely not chain-invading but it still happens from time to time.. Oddly enough, I can't get any bites for the Farron Watchdogs. Forestbro is a tempramental weird covenant that treated this character the same, was great when it worked  Got one I'm keeping at 15 w/+2 and there's been jackshit bluebroing, forestbroing. (need to do Aldrich on that one just because)
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Ilustforponydeath posted:I didn't know until after I beat the game that the princes were supposed to be a hard encounter. I get to Phase 2 pretty consistently but I eat it when I get teleported on to while trying to dodge the homing missiles and if I dodge the teleport, I get blasted by the lance. Not sweating it, I've found a few of the harder bosses to be easy myself, the teleporting just frustrates me because it feels more like a gimmick than strong encounter design.
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HGH posted:I think you have to capitalize the word to bypass the filter. Whoa, thanks! What program is that, where you are able to show all the character mapping values?
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frytechnician posted:That is unbelievably impressive and has inspired me to try the same later tonight. Honestly it was a really fun run and it taught me a lot about actually learning boss patterns and not just panic rolling whenever an attack is about to hit me.
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Skull Knight posted:Whoa, thanks! What program is that, where you are able to show all the character mapping values? Cheat engine.
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VanSandman posted:Cheat engine. Oh  ...
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Harrow posted:Hollow Warden's Twinblades with 40 Dex and either 40 Luck or 30 Luck (if your character is hollow and you also have another Hollow weapon/shield to carry in your offhand), then buff with Carthus Rouge, and everything that can bleed will bleed out in record time. Tons of fun. That WAS with carthus rouge. Anri's bled better and hit much, much harder.
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InequalityGodzilla posted:Thinking of using a save backup in order to respec into this build as a dedicated PvP thing: Soul Level 150 seems pretty high. I get plenty of hits at SL 100. Maybe 150 is working out for most folks? That's a lot of levels considering it costs about 60k souls to get to level 101. You may as well get all the +2 versions of the rings. And I would recommend a Life Ring +3 over a Speckled Stoneplate. Can't speak for miracles in PVP. I would say mostly unimpressive, I would recommend a pyro build. Also builds like this depend a lot on self-buffs, so expect to get Duel Charmed. edit: Scratch that - Leo ring over speckled Stoneplate ring seeing as this is a pokey-build.
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Any thoughts on Farron vs Wolf Knight GS? I'm using an Estoc or Flamberge depending on what I feel like at any given moment and wouldn't mind switching it up. e: Need a way to tell hosts to stop trying to kill the red-eye Watchers too. Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 20:34 on May 9, 2016 |
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Section Z posted:I am starting to become worried about what will happen when he hits 99/600 My tribute will be complete. They will awaken. First there will be darkness. Then, there will be nothing.
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ProfessorBooty posted:Soul Level 150 seems pretty high. I get plenty of hits at SL 100. Maybe 150 is working out for most folks? That's a lot of levels considering it costs about 60k souls to get to level 101. Oh, I know SL 150 is way above average, but like I said, this isn't a new character, this is me backing up my save and then respeccing an existing character (specifically, the very first one I made, when I was grinding up every level I could on my very first playthrough.) 150 still gets plenty of hits in the later NG+ areas, pontiff's bonfire especially. As for the +2 versions of rings, for the moment I'm sticking in NG+ (like I said, respec of existing file) so +1 is the best I have available. Mostly this is just a proof of concept sort of thing, to see how well it actually works out in PvP. All that aside, I think you have a point with the pyromancy thing. Buffs are hard o pull off mid fight, but with my dex I could probably throw out some decent pyromancy pretty quickly. The speckled stoneplate I mostly tacked on because I was worried about some stray hit from a buffed up sword wrecking me, but now that I look at the shear amount of health I'll have that doesn't seem like it'll be an issue. Any thoughts on my swapping out the grass crest for a heavier shield? Ravenfood posted:Any thoughts on Farron vs Wolf Knight GS? I'm using an Estoc or Flamberge depending on what I feel like at any given moment and wouldn't mind switching it up. Both are pretty decent but I'd lean towards wolf knight GS. Farron is good, especially if you're good at parrying since that's it's skill, but aside from it's unique L1 it hits pretty slow. Wolf knight is faster, aside from an inexplicably slow one handed r2, and it has both of it's stance techniques are excellent in PvE, though the heavy one is pretty useless in PvP since you can see it coming a mile away. As for scaling, farron gets better dex scaling, but once the wolf knight is leveled up it's a... I think high C rank in both strength and dex, so it's good for mixed builds. Tl:dr; it's kind of a tossup on whether you want the nice parrying of farron or the nice variety of techniques from wolf knight.
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Behemuff posted:Are the Watchers in the Abyss impossible?!?!?! Sure feels like it Which part is giving you trouble? If its the first, slow down and let the 3rd watcher attack the others and keep it a 1v1 fight between you and the boss.
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RBA Starblade posted:I'm mildly annoyed they buffed twinblades a day after I finish my run that used twinblades. I finished the game last night and used sellsword twinblades for the entire game since I got them, welp
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InequalityGodzilla posted:Any thoughts on my swapping out the grass crest for a heavier shield? I would recommend going lighter where you can - including shields - and see if you can take some levels out of Vitality , that's just my personal playstyle though. The stamina regen on the grass crest shield is nothing to write home about. If you decide to use offensive miracles, including lightning buffs on your weapon then Morne's ring is something to consider as a replacement for the steel protection ring or cloranthy ring.But seriously the Leo Ring is a must on a build like this. +15% damage on an attack that already gets counter bonuses is amazing. I have a SL 70 dex/rapier build that will easily get 400-ish damage unbuffed on a good poke with a sharp ricard's rapier.
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InequalityGodzilla posted:Tl:dr; it's kind of a tossup on whether you want the nice parrying of farron or the nice variety of techniques from wolf knight. As an addendum, the Big Wolf Sword also gets a big bonus to damage against several abyss-tainted bosses, and will hit harder overall after more stats investment. The Farron sword can't be used two-handed, because when you press the button, your guy pulls out that knifey thing. If you like parrying and using a one-handed greatsword, you might like it better.
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He's so edgy and emo; it's like having My Chemical Romance and Marilyn Manson all wrapped up in a frail little bundle of albino Bartleby the Scrivener.
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Two questions related to summoning: 1. My friend and I have started new characters together and we're trying to drop weapons from our characters that have beaten the game for them to use, but it's been kind of finnicky. Once we actually summon each other it works fine, but I've only been able to find her sign once. We're using the password system, but still don't see each other's signs most of the time, unless we're on our same-leveled characters. Are they any known glitches/buggy areas that might be affecting this? 2. Can you drop covenant leveling items, such as the Wolf's Blood Swordgrass, for other players?
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My new game ++ character is a little over level 200 (PC), and I still get Aldrich summons and regular Pontiff fight club activity. So even at those levels you won't be stuck playing entirely alone. Does the Pontiff sprout the weird pilgrim butterfly branches from his back during his second form? I'm usually too busy trying not to die during that fight, but it looks like it to me.
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ankle posted:Two questions related to summoning: I don't think you can drop an item that's a higher level than their highest item. For example: you can't drop a +4 longsword for a friend who's highest weapon is +3, regardless of your levels.
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ankle posted:Two questions related to summoning: 1. If the level spread is wide, it can take a minute or two for the match-making to get you together. I haven't had many problems recently. Usually my friend and I get matched in less than 1 minute. -Some areas are more obnoxious than others. Road of Sacrifice for example only allows 1 summon default. Not aware of any other exceptions. Technically shouldn't matter. -You can not summon in areas that do not have bosses. This includes areas you have killed bosses. Red signs do work, however. If you're looking to trade up it is probably best to drop red signs, since you don't even need to be embered to see them. 2. Don't believe so. Same for upgrade materials, boss souls, and maybe boss soul weapons? Also, you can not drop gear that is a higher upgrade level than whatever is currently your highest.
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Trip report: Ever since I was breaking into the high 40s in INT sorcery has been a lot more fun and fairly easy. Just around the time I entered the prison too so that's good. It's still a big loving pile of bullshit when you watch your death arrow go through an enemy in an attack. The spiders are the worst for that. They apparently have no_clip = 1 when in mid air.
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Behemuff posted:Are the Watchers in the Abyss impossible?!?!?! Sure feels like it I saved my watchers win because I went from landing no hits 2ND phase to thrashing him the next play. The thing I noticed was if you are rolling backwards to heal you already lost. He presses hard and breaks guard easy. I needed to channel my Bloodborne and roll aggressively into his attacks. At worst his swords arc over you and he's out of position for a backstab. Give him a good ole shank in the back, estus if you need it, or slam him with a charged R2 as he's getting up.
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Two things I found out while dicking around with weapons: - Scholar's Candlestick (boss weapon from Deacons) completely inexplicably upgrades with normal Titanite - The Great Wooden Hammer only weighs 6 units but has a really nice club moveset
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Kiggles posted:2. Don't believe so. Same for upgrade materials, boss souls, and maybe boss soul weapons? Also, you can not drop gear that is a higher upgrade level than whatever is currently your highest. Can you still get gear early on that normally isn't available until the end of the game by trading it unupgraded? Like could I trade down gotthard's twinswords at the start of the game if they were still +0? Also, is it like bloodborne in that there is no required level range to summon if you have a password on?
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I just realized that messages are shared between Firelink and Dark Firelink The message I left by the chest is going to make no sense to half the people who see it.
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Digirat posted:Can you still get gear early on that normally isn't available until the end of the game by trading it unupgraded? Like could I trade down gotthard's twinswords at the start of the game if they were still +0? Yep! I had my friends ~120SL character trade some weapons/Embers to my ~15SL guy and then traded it to her ~15SL guy.
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So I heard the scholar's candlestick boosts sorceries. Does it do that just by being equipped in the offhand? Can I twohand my immolation tinder and use it to cast sorceries while receiving the buff from the candlestick? EDIT: Tested it myself and you can twohand the tinder with the dagger in the offhand and still receive the boost. Nice. Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 21:42 on May 9, 2016 |
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^^ That is the dagger variant you can buy from Greirat. The straight sword just lets you case sorceries with your faith stat or something. e: it works fine in either hand, and you don't even need to meet stat requirements for the bonus, it just has to be "active", if not necessarily in-hand, so you can 2hand another weapon.Digirat posted:Can you still get gear early on that normally isn't available until the end of the game by trading it unupgraded? Like could I trade down gotthard's twinswords at the start of the game if they were still +0? Up-upgraded gear works fine, if the weapon can be traded at all in the first place. Kiggles fucked around with this message at 21:39 on May 9, 2016 |
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