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X-O posted:I mean She-Hulk might be the best consistently and independently portrayed female character Marvel has. She's been around with a solo book forever. I personally would love to see a Netflix series that's half or even mostly a law procedural with her. The logistics of that from a rights and special effects perspective makes it seem impossible at the moment but still it could be a great series. That doesn't mean she's not a derivative character though and they're gun shy about the actual Hulk right now nevermind what most people would consider just a female version no matter how wrong that descriptor is. Yeah, I don't think She-Hulk is bad and I would love to see a legal show involving her and think it could be excellent. It just doesn't change what it is.
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Hell, I'd argue the growth of She-Hulk led to growth for regular Hulk too. The idea that instead of unleashing her rage, that it released her sexuality or her extroverted side or her inhibitions, or whatever interpretation smarter people than I would care to make about it allowed for the shift to thinking about well, what about Banner led to his anger being the repressed part of him that the radiation let out, and that's basically what the last 30 years of Hulk comics have largely been about. It's also why I liked Red She-Hulk, because it extended that theme by making it clear that Betty's Hulk form was fuelled by her frustration and spite at being Bruce's damsel in distress and her father's pawn.
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X-O posted:Deadpool did not prove that because Deadpool is not in the MCU. I did not know that. Maybe the fact that I didn't know that and probably nobody else does either makes me still right? I'm honestly not sure!
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May 10, 2016 03:08
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PunkBoy posted:Also that sick leg headlock takedown/DDT combo. Just saw Civil War, and I one of the many things I loved was the fighting styles shown (although some of it had a bit too much shaky-cam). Yeah, I missed the clean filming that Winter Soldier had. The opening sequence also looked strangely CGI'd for a Marvel film, especially since so much of it was practical stunt work. Something was just slightly off for me and I'm not sure what. But that was sort my overall impression of the film, I liked it--maybe really liked it even, but I was expecting/hoping to love it. It was a solid B+ film, but it needed to be an A, especially following in the footsteps of Winter Soldier. I liked all the components, I agree with everyone who said that each character got to take the stage at least once, Black Panther and Spider-Man were loving aces, but it all didn't quite gel for me. It bugs me that I can't figure out why exactly. I'll have to see it again to suss that out.
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MH Knights posted:At the end of IM3 did Tony completely removed the extremis virus from Pepper making her a normal human again? Or did Tony stabilize it so the Pepper did not have to worry about "regulating" but still have all of the extremis super powers? I think allowing Pepper to keep her extremis powers would be a good way to have her show up in a future movie as an actual hero and not just a love interest. The dialogue suggested he completely removed it, but Pepper hasn't been seen since so who the hell knows. Pepper with Extremis would certainly be a unique power set in the MCU, both in effect and visuals (though according to the guys who did it, the effects for Extremis were a pain to do in post-IM3 interviews). My problem with a hero Pepper, Extremis or armored, is how on earth she'd fit into any narrative at this point without an IM4. One of the more plausible theories I've heard about the Infinity War movies is that the first one features the standard extant Avengers, who get their poo poo wrecked and so turn to more unorthodox heroes with weirder and more extreme abilities like Dr. Strange, Captain Marvel, and the Inhumans. Pepper's not like Tony who's plausible enough to drop into most anyone else's story at this point. The story would need to justify and use her, I think, and superpowered Pepper feels like a bad fit for any of the movies going forward that we know about - Ant-Man and Wasp at the most plausible.
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MacheteZombie posted:Bucky didn't power bomb her through the table when he had the chance = bad movie. He tried!
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May 10, 2016 03:17
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It was a really strong table. Unlike the one Sharon got stuck with.
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May 10, 2016 03:19
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Make Pepper an Inhuman. M...Make her name Virgina Crystal Potts.
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May 10, 2016 03:26
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That's a mean thing to do to a fun character like Crystal.
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May 10, 2016 03:29
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X-O posted:It was a really strong table. Unlike the one Sharon got stuck with.
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Toxxupation posted:Also you can't compare Marvel Character of the 00s, Deadpool to Character Most People, Even Those Into Comics, Would Have No Idea Who She Is Squirrel Girl That's why I'm comparing her to Ant Man. No-one knew who the gently caress Ant Man was, outside of fans.
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May 10, 2016 03:52
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Ant Man is significantly less stupid than Squirrel Girl.
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Aphrodite posted:Ant Man is significantly less stupid than Squirrel Girl. If you dont know anything about the characters but their names they're almost equal. Squirrel Girl is sillier because it rhymes.
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Aphrodite posted:Ant Man is significantly less stupid than Squirrel Girl. Please explain. Squirrel Girl is more explicitly a comedic character, but their powers are equally silly. Edit: Basically I'm saying that Marvel has proven they can make action comedy based on C-list characters unfamiliar to the general public. Gravitas Shortfall fucked around with this message at 04:01 on May 10, 2016 |
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May 10, 2016 03:59
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Oh good, looks like Wolverine 3 is for sure based on Old Man Logan. Yes, because...Old Man Logan...is so great. Yes. Excellent. I wonder if the R-rated decision was due in no small part to the success of Deadpool.
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Cythereal posted:The dialogue suggested he completely removed it, but Pepper hasn't been seen since so who the hell knows. Pepper with Extremis would certainly be a unique power set in the MCU, both in effect and visuals (though according to the guys who did it, the effects for Extremis were a pain to do in post-IM3 interviews). She could be Rescue and be added to the Avengers as some kind of "Look, we have someone with no/minimal weapons, who's just there to help people and prevent damage when she can" and or government go-between kinda thing, maybe? Then during the big "everything is going to poo poo in the city" battles you could sometimes cut to her holding up a wall to let some kids run away from the danger or what have you. A hero who is not focused on the combat could be good for their public image as well. If it would be executed at all well would be another thing. Also, I haven't seen Civil War yet so I dunno how plausible that scenario is after that movie.
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May 10, 2016 04:22
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Toxxupation posted:Oh good, looks like Wolverine 3 is for sure based on Old Man Logan. I'd guess Deadpool played a part in it, but Jackman surely is going out how he wants with this movie.
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May 10, 2016 04:56
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I look froward to the Shmulk Gang and Ahracno-Bitch.
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X-O posted:I'd guess Deadpool played a part in it, but Jackman surely is going out how he wants with this movie. The Wolverine was an R rated movie that they edited down for it's theatrical cut anyway.
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X-O posted:The thing about Supergirl and DC in general you have to remember is that legacy is a bigger deal over there. At least until someone comes along that really really liked the inferior versions of the characters that have been gone for years and brings them back for some reason when the new versions are working just as good as ever. I know Geoff Johns has done some great work, but man do I hate that guy. Barry and Hal aren't even that good. They literally never have been.
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SonicRulez posted:I know Geoff Johns has done some great work, but man do I hate that guy. Barry and Hal aren't even that good. They literally never have been. The most disappointing part of it for me is that he did such great stuff with Wally and then just erased him.
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May 10, 2016 08:17
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Well, saw Civil War. Liked it, and the song at the end of the credits was a wonderfully horribly bad taste joke. For folks who didn't catch it, Alt-J: Left Hand Free
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May 10, 2016 08:17
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She-hulk is an awesome character that would be good as a lead in an MCU movie. However, the clue that she's a derivative is that she's called loving She-hulk, as opposed to, I don't know, strong green woman or whatever.
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rantmo posted:Yeah, I missed the clean filming that Winter Soldier had. The opening sequence also looked strangely CGI'd for a Marvel film, especially since so much of it was practical stunt work. Something was just slightly off for me and I'm not sure what. The Russos and their editor took a page out of fury roads book and bumped up the frame rate on action sequences to try and give them more energy. But the finesse wasn't quite there.
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Bruceski posted:Well, saw Civil War. Liked it, and the song at the end of the credits was a wonderfully horribly bad taste joke. For folks who didn't catch it, It was used in the Spider-Man scene and then used to lead you back in to another Spider-Man scene.
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CelticPredator posted:It was used in the Spider-Man scene and then used to lead you back in to another Spider-Man scene. Oh was THAT where it was from? I missed its use in the actual movie and thought it was just there for the joke.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Please explain. So now we're back to the Great Lakes Avengers idea.
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I haven't seen it mentioned yet but one of X-Men: Apocalypse's producers has said that the next X movie after this one still won't be in the present day but instead be set in the 90s.
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May 10, 2016 11:58
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Good, these period-piece aspect of the X-Men films is one of the best things about them.
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muscles like this? posted:I haven't seen it mentioned yet but one of X-Men: Apocalypse's producers has said that the next X movie after this one still won't be in the present day but instead be set in the 90s. I would be kind of interested in an X-Men movie that was modeled after Saved by the Bell. Professor X is Mr. Belding, Cyclops is Zack, Jean Grey is Kelly, Wolverine is Slater, Storm is Jessie, Gambit is Screech, and Rogue is Lisa. Wait no that's actually gonna be too close to the horrible cartoon where they all actually were high school kids poo poo nevermind.
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muscles like this? posted:I haven't seen it mentioned yet but one of X-Men: Apocalypse's producers has said that the next X movie after this one still won't be in the present day but instead be set in the 90s.
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Are they referring to the New Mutants movie for the 90's? Or a different X-movie in the 90's?
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SirDan3k posted:I look froward to the Shmulk Gang and Ahracno-Bitch. I really do wonder how they're going to adopt the fact that Old Man Logan utilizes the whole extended Marvel Universe so extensively (since, you know, Logan killed all of the other mutants in the world) into a movie where they don't have the license for any of it. Also I'm willing to bet the ending is gonna be Man on Fire (villains kidnap his family, he trades his life for theirs). God Old Man Logan. What a not-good comic that is.
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May 10, 2016 14:48
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Actually, OML owns.
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Shageletic posted:Can we all agree that the promise of spiffy Vision was fuckig over fulfilled? Walking around like an Assistant Professor. It was all good stuff. I can see Vision wiling away his time in his favorite craft beer beer garden before Ubering over to listen to a live Moth Story Slam. This got lost under the detritus of some stupid argument, but seriously, do people here think Vision has a NPR tote bag y/n?
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zoux posted:Actually, OML owns. I wasn't a huge fan of it but I'd be fine with an adaptation since that would by necessity smooth over the rougher edges.
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muscles like this? posted:I wasn't a huge fan of it but I'd be fine with an adaptation since that would by necessity smooth over the rougher edges. By rougher edges you mean Millarese? Ha, the Economist weighs in. Ross kind of alludes to it but I'm surprised they didn't try to make the American issue more of a central problem. It's one of the most interesting things about Ultimates vol 2, this idea that a team made up of American heroes is going to lead to a new arms race with superpeople instead of nukes. Any actions of the Avengers would be seen as serving American foreign policy interests no matter how pure and honorable they are. It's hard to convince people you aren't operating under a national aegis when you're led by a guy named Captain America. zoux fucked around with this message at 15:18 on May 10, 2016 |
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Another possible issue I can see with bringing She-hulk to the big screen is the optics of having the gamma stuff that has been shown to turn people into giant bestial rage monsters instead turning a woman into a pretty tall, fairly muscular but still ultra feminine form complete with huge green cgi breasts. It would be practically inviting criticism. I mean I'm sure Marvel Studios could come up with a way to do it tastefully, but I can see how theyd be hesitant to open up that particular can of worms. Mazzagatti2Hotty fucked around with this message at 15:38 on May 10, 2016 |
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That's really easy. Cast a nontraditionally attractive, very tall female actress (a Gwendoline Christie type, for instance), pay for a trainer so she gets super buff (aka the Chris Evans treatment), then do a First Avenger and use that CGI and paste her face on some shrimpy body double. Ignore the whole boobs thing because who really gives a gently caress, only gross weirdos will care.
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Jamesman posted:Wait no that's actually gonna be too close to the horrible cartoon where they all actually were high school kids poo poo nevermind. Hey now, Evolution wasn't the greatest, but horrible seems a bit harsh. It had that cool X-23 episode. The Morlocks were a thing.
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