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CommonShore posted:your EHP with the invuln off is what matters. Also keep in mind that you might be able to get the exact same resists out of tech ii or x-type mission specific hardeners instead of the invuln + the boost amplifier, at much lower cost (and thus much lower gank risk) I'm not trying to blitz missions right now since I'm not trained to do burners. Since I can't do burners I won't be able to sustain my standings when I constantly decline every mission I can't just blitz. If I have to do level 4s straight up don't I need my tank to be near cap stable?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I'm not trying to blitz missions right now since I'm not trained to do burners. Since I can't do burners I won't be able to sustain my standings when I constantly decline every mission I can't just blitz. If you have like 4 minutes of cap you can survive most l4s, if you're sensible. Seriously - I did l4s in a 300m isk Maelstrom. Sure, you're doing them faster, but you're not doing them TEN TIMES faster, which you would have to be to justify the cost/risk. gently caress, just play around with EFT/Pyfa on your lowslots. How much DPS is that 4th faction BCU actually giving you over the tech ii? 2?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I'm not trying to blitz missions right now since I'm not trained to do burners. Since I can't do burners I won't be able to sustain my standings when I constantly decline every mission I can't just blitz. You're driving a god drat autism chariot, looking at your fit, thats the kind of thing I would drool and twitch if there was an opportunity to gank it. Take about 4 steps back on the cost, sell the expensive modules, and buy a standings alt to fetch burner missions.
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CommonShore posted:If you have like 4 minutes of cap you can survive most l4s, if you're sensible. Seriously - I did l4s in a 300m isk Maelstrom. Sure, you're doing them faster, but you're not doing them TEN TIMES faster, which you would have to be to justify the cost/risk. For me I'm doing them in ships worth only 2-3 times that (some of that cost is because poo poo skilling tbh) and I'd say I don't them like 1.5-2x as fast as a maelstrom
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Also gently caress faction damage mods or tracking lows. That runs up your price so loving much for such negligible gain compared to how long you burn place to place or wait for your gecko to get there or something
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Syndic Thrass posted:For me I'm doing them in ships worth only 2-3 times that (some of that cost is because poo poo skilling tbh) and I'd say I don't them like 1.5-2x as fast as a maelstrom up to 1b isk is sane for a mission ship. To be fair, my Maelstrom was part of a "how ghetto can I get and still do these things" affair on a newly trained alt.
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Alright I'm going to experiment on EFT to substantially lower the cost.
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Yeah I push maybe 1.2-1.5 on some of my more tism fits. I though I was bad but that guys is prolly not more than 15s faster than me in any given mission
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May 10, 2016 04:52
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Alright I'm going to experiment on EFT to substantially lower the cost. http://evepraisal.com/e/10717677 Like for god sakes man, 1.86B isk sell value in Jita. At 100m isk/hour, which is top-end best you can expect from blitzing non-burners, that's still almost 20 hours of work to replace if you welp it or get ganked. Don't be a stupid who gets addicted to Purple Armor in Space.
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Pith X type SBA, large shield booster, and set of hardeners plus a t2 or faction invuln (refit mids as needed) with an ab. T2 damage mods and TEs and the plus you already have. Gist type is stupid expensive even still (I think. This is the stockpile of poo poo I was referring to but I think its still way cheaper and faction where you can) My phone updated my keyboard and hasn't relearned eve talk Syndic Thrass fucked around with this message at 04:58 on May 10, 2016 |
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Also, will people just never attempt to gank Procurers? I realize it's the tankiest of the lot, but I feel like that years ago, people would gank you just out of spite if you tanked to try to be safe from them. Don't forget that years ago, you'd still get the insurance payout if you suicide ganked, so people would often break even on a hard kill. Today, not so much. And a procurer is definitely a hard kill -- they can break 100k EHP in an all-tank fit, or 70k EHP for an actual mining fit. And that's before overheating.
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you guys are forgetting that there are a ton of 'profitable' things to gank all the time, but organizing 7 tornadoes to hunt that guy isn't really worth the ganker's time.
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avatarinwin posted:you guys are forgetting that there are a ton of 'profitable' things to gank all the time, but organizing 7 tornadoes to hunt that guy isn't really worth the ganker's time. depends if they're organizing for him specifically or just happen to catch him at a mission hub while looking for other whales
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Alright lets try again. Hull+Fit is around 830mil isk. Less than half the previous amount. edit: amended Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 05:47 on May 10, 2016 |
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May 10, 2016 05:37
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Stop trying to make a fit cap stable with a mwd. You can't hit poo poo at full MWD speeds most likely any way.
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why the hell is there a cap battery and CCCs, it appears without the battery you're almost stable with your stupid mwd anyway
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:why the hell is there a cap battery and CCCs, it appears without the battery you're almost stable with your stupid mwd anyway What should I put in the rigs, shield or speed? Or something else? Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 05:57 on May 10, 2016 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What should I put in the rigs, shield or speed? Or something else? CDFE and a Hyperspatial are my first thoughts
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May 10, 2016 06:08
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gently caress it, here's one last fit and I'll stop bugging everyone. Costs 900mil exactly.
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Syndic Thrass posted:Stop trying to make a fit cap stable with a mwd. You can't hit poo poo at full MWD speeds most likely any way. Unless you are kiting straight towards or straight away, yeah. If you must MWD around like a jackass it's probably time to think about a missile ship.
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VideoGames did you spent the injector I gave you, and if yes on what skills?.
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And it has been named. For the christening ceremony, Gobbins took boat by the feet and smashed him against the side like a champagne bottle. All applicable deities are appeased.
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Zephyrine posted:And it has been named. With all the thetan hate I was expecting you to say you smashed a thetans on it or something.
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harlyq posted:With all the thetan hate I was expecting you to say you smashed a thetans on it or something. I had no idea he was Thetan.
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Beanbox posted:VideoGames did you spent the injector I gave you, and if yes on what skills?. I did thank you!! I spent a while looking over things and got myself more abilities to allow me to nearly be able to use the prospect and the skiff! I hope I used it wisely. There was so much to possibly use it on. If I did poorly then please let me repay you.
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VideoGames posted:I did thank you!! I spent a while looking over things and got myself more abilities to allow me to nearly be able to use the prospect and the skiff! I hope I used it wisely. There was so much to possibly use it on. If I did poorly then please let me repay you. We'll always be proud of you. Whatever you choose to do in life.
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VideoGames posted:I did thank you!! I spent a while looking over things and got myself more abilities to allow me to nearly be able to use the prospect and the skiff! I hope I used it wisely. There was so much to possibly use it on. If I did poorly then please let me repay you. You did great, I was just interested in what you skilled up.
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You know gently caress all is happening when the un-chill thread turns into talk about missioning and 'attaboy' posts. Does anyone have a good fit for gated Lvl5 missions? I keep running into a brick wall on waiting out 4 hour timers to not lose my agent and other games just don't pass the time like they used to.
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Skill injectors need a drat warning label on them. I went from "hey maybe I'll finish logi frigates 5" to "I'm already down x amount. what's another billion?" in about ten minutes.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:gently caress it, here's one last fit and I'll stop bugging everyone. Quit trying to omnitank. Take the 4 seconds to figure out what damage types are in a mission and then tank for those.
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Ad by Khad posted:Skill injectors need a drat warning label on them. I went from "hey maybe I'll finish logi frigates 5" to "I'm already down x amount. what's another billion?" in about ten minutes. Indeed they are extremely addictive.
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dragonstalking posted:Does anyone have a good fit for gated Lvl5 missions? I keep running into a brick wall on waiting out 4 hour timers to not lose my agent and other games just don't pass the time like they used to. [Golem, L5 solo] Missile Guidance Enhancer II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Large Micro Jump Drive Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800 X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400 X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400 Pithum A-Type EM Ward Amplifier Pithum C-Type Thermal Dissipation Amplifier Domination Kinetic Deflection Amplifier Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile [empty high slot] Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile [empty high slot] Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Large Ionic Field Projector II Large Ionic Field Projector II Warp in, mjd off the beacon, blap the objective, moonwalk out. e: a better solution is just to buy another pulling alt, though. LemonDrizzle fucked around with this message at 14:18 on May 10, 2016 |
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CommonShore posted:Quit trying to omnitank. Take the 4 seconds to figure out what damage types are in a mission and then tank for those. (if you are intentionally giving bad advice so you can gank him, then carry on)
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Zephyrine posted:I had no idea he was Thetan. The fact that you don't know dbrb is not welcome in our thetan embrace kinda proves our point that you're talking out of your rear end.
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I don't need no injectors with my 160M SP yo
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Helicon One posted:This is bad advice, since omnitank is gank resistance. Tailor your resistances to the NPCs a little but if you're at all worried about getting suicided then you need to avoid resist holes and increase buffer. I think the point is that if you tailor your resistances to the NPCs, you can fit cheaper modules and actually get a greater effective tank vs NPCs, which makes you both more effective and less likely to get ganked in the first place.
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Thanks for the kind words folks. And just fyi I think they said they took 25 lbs of skin off.
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holy gently caress whats your weigh in now?
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vyst posted:Thanks for the kind words folks. And just fyi I think they said they took 25 lbs of skin off. Dick snip skin
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