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Squish posted:So, a few posts back it was mentioned about the churchy being on sale for 5.79 or so. If I buy that on special, and get gold because I already have a churchill - is that good gold/$ value? A good thing to do is check out what the best deal on only gold packs are at present and compare with quick napkin math whenever a question of this sort comes to the fore in one's mind. subhelios posted:Not a problem, hope you enjoy it! Way a head of you. It's a different play style than I'm used to, but it's been a blast to learn. Probably it is the already trained crew that helped a lot with that. Which would explain why the regular Crommy never fully grabbed me.
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Arishtat posted:~5700 damage, ~1350 spotting damage, 1588 base experience, Steel Wall, High Caliber, Confederate, yadda yadda yadda That's what I miss so much about my T32. You never get T8 games anymore, but when you do it's such an amazing tank. Even its hull is bouncier than you would think if you can get it well-angled without exposing your side. It is my favorite tank, and it's why I want to run some T8 strongholds.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:That's what I miss so much about my T32. You never get T8 games anymore, but when you do it's such an amazing tank. Even its hull is bouncier than you would think if you can get it well-angled without exposing your side. It is my favorite tank, and it's why I want to run some T8 strongholds. This is why the clownshoe is so awesome. Even though it was somewhat functional in t10 games, the devs gave up and gave it t9 max matchmaking. Which also results in a lot of t8 games with it as well. And that armor is amazing at t8.
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I am a bit surprised about you lot saying you get nothing but T10 games in your T8. Is that different on NA? I was grinding through my 50 100 on EU and T10 games were pretty rare.
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Michaellaneous posted:I am a bit surprised about you lot saying you get nothing but T10 games in your T8. Yes. Remember, the NA cluster has a good half or less the population of the EU cluster.
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May 10, 2016 17:41
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JuffoWup posted:Yes. Remember, the NA cluster has a good half or less the population of the EU cluster. Does matchmaking ever mix people who are on US West and East? I assume not, since it makes a bit deal about 'HEY YOU GONNA SWITCH SERVERSSSS" when you get an invite from someone on East when you're on West.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:That's what I miss so much about my T32. You never get T8 games anymore, but when you do it's such an amazing tank. Even its hull is bouncier than you would think if you can get it well-angled without exposing your side. It is my favorite tank, and it's why I want to run some T8 strongholds. Eh, the idea that you only get tier9-10 games if you play tier 8 just isn't true. I have been grinding credits in my regular mm tier 8s and I haven't seen that many tier 10 games. And I play during time zones with low server population. I think it is basically that getting tier 10 in an 8 feels pretty hopeless from the start. But you also get those games where you get second highest Xp in a revaloroise and versus a blue toon and it feels great.
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May 10, 2016 18:02
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If you're on west and want to play low tiers hit me up. gently caress east and Telia forever!
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Cardiac posted:Eh, the idea that you only get tier9-10 games if you play tier 8 just isn't true. I guess I'm exaggerating it, but if there's well armored heavies you can't really do anything against them without shooting gold. And your semi-bouncy hull at T8 may as well be sheet metal facing T9 guns. To be fair, I could do a lot better about sticking with the pack in general. I guess that's particularly bad when you're on the low end of the match.
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May 10, 2016 18:22
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About the only thing to do when you're a bottom of the heap 8 in a T10 match is to keep the hell back and and sneak in shots in where needed. Still really risky and I hope you brought something mobile with great gun. Also I recommend lots of camo.
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Sorry, I realized I forgot to clarify. I might just be bad since I came back, but I also have trouble penning German T9 heavies in particular. Even E50s are tricky. I think I remember Ensign saying they've buffed a lot of German armor?
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22 Eargesplitten posted:I guess I'm exaggerating it, but if there's well armored heavies you can't really do anything against them without shooting gold. And your semi-bouncy hull at T8 may as well be sheet metal facing T9 guns. To be fair, I could do a lot better about sticking with the pack in general. I guess that's particularly bad when you're on the low end of the match. I am currently grinding a Tiger2 so I am perfectly aware of this. If I take a look at my current normal MM tier8s, some work fine in tier10 (SU-14-2, Obj416, T34, Ferdie, IS-3), while some are just depressing to play (M4A1 Rev, FV4202P, CDC, Tiger2, AT15). You either need a tank with a great gun (like T34, Obj416, IS-3 or Ferdie), somewhat reliable armour on parts of the tank (IS-3, T34) or arty to alleviate the issues with higher tiers. And for some reason I just bought a Tortoise, since I kinda enjoyed the AT15.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Sorry, I realized I forgot to clarify. I might just be bad since I came back, but I also have trouble penning German T9 heavies in particular. Even E50s are tricky. I think I remember Ensign saying they've buffed a lot of German armor? The E-75 and Ausb B are some of the absolutely best-armored tanks in the game. The E-50 has better armor than many heavy tanks. You're supposed to have trouble penetrating their fronts.
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It used to be that I could pen the LFP, at least I remember being able to. The E50 I definitely could. Then again, this was late 2012. I feel like the accuracy was also better, so I could cupola snipe a lot of tanks reliably. Or maybe they just buffed a lot of cupolas.
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Accuracy was way better between 8.6 and 9.6. The E-50 and Ausf B also had some armor buffs. +30/20 mm UFP/LFP and +120 mm LFP respectively, iirc. E-75 has always been indestructible.
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I completed TD15 with honours (Stug IV) in a St Emil and was harangued for being a camper bot by a "sniper" 251, to the point he gave my position away to the enemy team. I just don't understand.
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goomsnarr posted:I completed TD15 with honours (Stug IV) in a St Emil and was harangued for being a camper bot by a "sniper" 251, to the point he gave my position away to the enemy team. Some people hate winning so much that they actively try to prevent you from doing it.
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goomsnarr posted:I completed TD15 with honours (Stug IV) in a St Emil and was harangued for being a camper bot by a "sniper" 251, to the point he gave my position away to the enemy team. Sometimes I'll rage out in allchat when our team has a bunch of useless sniper TDs and tell the enemy team where the campers are. Which is obviously a lie and is intended to just lead the enemy into the snipers' fire. Weaponized chat is frequently useful!
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I just started playing again recently and I have a few questions. 1. I'm on the Centurion Mark I. Is the Centurion Action X any good? 2. I just finished the STA-1 grind. Is the STB-1 still worth getting? 3. What is the grind for the Czechoslovakian line like?
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Hellsau posted:Sometimes I'll rage out in allchat when our team has a bunch of useless sniper TDs and tell the enemy team where the campers are. Which is obviously a lie and is intended to just lead the enemy into the snipers' fire. Weaponized chat is frequently useful! That's actually a really good idea.
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lol Ultron and Earge, I had a perfectly aimed shot on that T-54, he was driving right into it, I was timing it perfect....crash. Got back into game, was dead, tried to exit to garage, black screen. I suspect that's the game telling me "you're loving dumb, you were at 9 for 18, shoulda cut your losses you dumb poo poo now go away" anyway rip you guys.D.J. Booger posted:I just started playing again recently and I have a few questions. 1. It's bad 2. It's mediocre 3. Tier 6 and 9 and 10 are overpowered as hell, everything else is doo doo, the tier 8 is unplayable. The tier 1 is worse than all other tier 1s, and the tier 2-4 may or may not be good but they're basically worse Cruisers and also don't really matter.
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Action X looks good on paper, in practice its a piece of poo poo.
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Hellsau posted:3. Tier 6 and 9 and 10 are overpowered as hell, everything else is doo doo, the tier 8 is unplayable. The tier 1 is worse than all other tier 1s, and the tier 2-4 may or may not be good but they're basically worse Cruisers and also don't really matter. Tiers 2, 4, and 5 are poo poo tier bad, but tier 3 is pretty dope. It has a 3 round autoloader with great pen for its tier.
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Fayk posted:Is this viable, given how new (bad) I am and that the highest tier stuff I have access to so far is a single Light IV? Like Hellsau said, yes. I, for example, generally have 2-3 dozen tanks at each tier (aside from only 2-4 at tier 1 and 6 at tier 10). I have around 250 tanks total.  I enjoy playing at most tiers, and would be willing to platoon with you in low tiers when the opportunity presents itself.Fayk posted:Does matchmaking ever mix people who are on US West and East? I assume not, since it makes a bit deal about 'HEY YOU GONNA SWITCH SERVERSSSS" when you get an invite from someone on East when you're on West. Correct, the servers are separate for a reason. There used to be just a single cluster (East) but instead of centralizing it (e.g. to the Chicago area) they decided to split the already small-ish playerbase.
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Hellsau posted:1. It's bad Saint Celestine posted:Action X looks good on paper, in practice its a piece of poo poo. Thanks. How is the Centurion Mark 7/1?
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D.J. Booger posted:Thanks. How is the Centurion Mark 7/1? All Centurions are mediocre and but huge, it is their thing, and while it works pretty well on average a fat jack of all trades tank is not always fun or optimal to play, especially without normal gold shells.
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I happened to enjoy all the Centurions. They provide an adequate platform for their guns, which are the real stars of the show. Just remember that you effectively have no armor and play them primarily as snipers (like you would in a Panther). Just dont try to knife-fight like you would in a Soviet or American medium.
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Mr.48 posted:I happened to enjoy all the Centurions. They provide an adequate platform for their guns, which are the real starts of the show. Just remember that you effectively have no armor and play them primarily as snipers (like you would in a Panther). Just dont try to knife-fight like you would in a Soviet or American medium. Which would be true if the E50M didn't exist. The E50m is better at sniping and has actual armor. The Action X is huge, has no armor and the gun has a tendency to spray shots everywhere. The nature of the turret also means that even if you attempt to play depression games, your turret is so big that youll get hit first
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Saint Celestine posted:Which would be true if the E50M didn't exist. The E50m is better at sniping and has actual armor. The E50M is a better tank, no doubt, but I still find the Action X fun to toll around in sometimes.
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I want an E50M, but playing the Panther II is boring.
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Saint Celestine posted:Which would be true if the E50M didn't exist. The E50m is better at sniping and has actual armor. Agreed. The regular E-50 is also a better sniper than the Action X. The Cent AX turret is such garbage - when we were not-rigging Rampage, I would routinely "pen test" Cent AXs with my FCM and there's like 15% of the turret that you won't autopen. The "thickest" part of the turret is just worthless, and the only places you can bounce it are the extreme turret sides. Also it has a dumbhat and it's weird searchlight isn't in the middle of the turret like on the M60 so you can't pretend to be a cyclops. Actually, given how atrocious the Cent AX's bloom is, the M60 might be a better sniper. Mr.48 posted:The E50M is a better tank, no doubt, but I still find the Action X fun to toll around in sometimes. The Cent AX is really fun to drive, and it would be a very nice tier 9. Unfortunately it isn't a tier 9, it's a tier 10, and it is therefore terrible. BadLlama posted:I want an E50M, but playing the Panther II is boring. I struggled through both the Panther 2 and Cent 1 by doing doubles in Strongholds. The mediocre tier 8 mediums are just depressing to play - the CDC has ludicrous speed and a good gun to actually be a medium, the Obj 416 is really a nice TD with broken camo, the Pershing and STA-1 (and Chieftain/T95, which I rather like) can actually play hulldown games, but there are so many tier 8 mediums that are just garbo knife fighters or sluggish scouts with mediocre view range and poor weaponry. Why play something like the Panther 2 when you could play an IS-3 or VK4502A and have better mobility and an actual gun that can threaten enemy tanks?
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Hellsau posted:The Cent AX turret is such garbage - when we were not-rigging Rampage, I would routinely "pen test" Cent AXs with my FCM and there's like 15% of the turret that you won't autopen. You say that like there was someone other than me dumb enough to bring a Cent AX. 
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McGavin posted:You say that like there was someone other than me dumb enough to bring a Cent AX. Look someone had to donate credits to me. I thank you for your contribution.
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I'm not sure how someone needs to struggle through the Panther 2. The only problem with it is gun depression. I've gotten a surprising amount of steel walls. Not sure what you're saying about the 4502A being better at threatening something. It has effectively the same pen as the 4502A, a whole 70 HP less, and the 4502A's armor is garbo too. The only real advantage is that the 4502A has better alpha, but the Panther 2's RoF is so good that you can pretty easily permatrack someone or get two shots in on a light/medium that's trying to run between cover. Its mobility is also great, it's faster than I remember the Pershing being and I loved the Pershing. If T8 ever stopped sucking, I would probably buy my Pershing back, actually. I haven't played the IS-3 since 2011, so I can't comment on that. I remember it being really good, though.
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So remember that roll eye response about the great vehicle balance? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG49ik1oHlQ So they are announcing a special test server will be coming out in the near future specifically for it. And they plan to recruit from the active and skilled players to help them out. Good luck hellsau!
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I don't know how well balancing around actual good players is going to work when 75% of the game's population are mediocre to awful. I feel like League of Legends did something like that way back when, and it didn't work well because so few people actually played like the top-tier players. I could be wrong, that's just my gut feeling.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:I don't know how well balancing around actual good players is going to work when 75% of the game's population are mediocre to awful. I feel like League of Legends did something like that way back when, and it didn't work well because so few people actually played like the top-tier players. Scrubs are going to play like poo poo no matter how good the tank is, so you might as well balance for people who know what they're doing.
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JuffoWup posted:So they are announcing a special test server will be coming out in the near future specifically for it. And they plan to recruit from the active and skilled players to help them out. They forgot to add that they'll only pick people from the glorious RU cluster, the only cluster that matters.
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