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Ometeotl posted:Because Souls fans are the most intolerable of backseat gamers. I can't really blame people. Souls reward knowledge to such a degree that they can sometimes be straight-up unenjoyable if you don't learn/find a few early things. I remember how many people threw in the towel on DS1 when they kept going to the Catacombs or New Londo first instead of finding the way to the Undead Burg. People are probably afraid that any given new player will get frustrated and give up if they don't learn X fact right now. Except that Geop a) beat Dark Souls and knows what he's in for, and b) has three people already doing that job.
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# ? May 10, 2016 18:21 |
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Harrow posted:I can't really blame people. Souls reward knowledge to such a degree that they can sometimes be straight-up unenjoyable if you don't learn/find a few early things. I remember how many people threw in the towel on DS1 when they kept going to the Catacombs or New Londo first instead of finding the way to the Undead Burg. People are probably afraid that any given new player will get frustrated and give up if they don't learn X fact right now.
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# ? May 10, 2016 18:30 |
so is there any actual sensible reason to use the broken thief sword for anything
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# ? May 10, 2016 18:31 |
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it's better than bare hands I guess
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# ? May 10, 2016 18:32 |
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scamtank posted:so is there any actual sensible reason to use the broken thief sword for anything Wiki says it's "good" for delivering Poison and Bleed, but there are weapons that do that and also deal some damage at the same time, and Bleed is also pretty bad in DS2.
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# ? May 10, 2016 18:39 |
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scamtank posted:so is there any actual sensible reason to use the broken thief sword for anything It's there in case you start as deprived and miss the dagger in Things Betwixt and the morning star in Majula?
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# ? May 10, 2016 19:08 |
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All right, what is this?
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# ? May 10, 2016 19:41 |
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Try it out. I promise it won't do anything bad to your computer. I would recommend using Chrome though -- Firefox and Edge tend to have issues.
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# ? May 10, 2016 20:22 |
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Lizard Wizard posted:All right, what is this?
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# ? May 10, 2016 20:41 |
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The strange textures / models are because the game also stored "low-poly" versions of every asset and they don't always line up on top of each other. I can't find what toggles the low-poly versions on and off.
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# ? May 10, 2016 21:18 |
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# ? May 10, 2016 22:11 |
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Ometeotl posted:Because Souls fans are the most intolerable of backseat gamers. It's true, and I'm the worst one. I'm trying to hold it in but... sometimes I just go. It's like "NO DON'T GO THAT WAY INSTEAD GO TO THE PATH THAT LOOKS SIMILAR BUT OBVIOUSLY LEADS TO A THING THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD IF YOU PLAYED AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT BUILD" or "NO, WHY DO YOU ONLY HIT ENEMIES ONCE OR TWICE WHEN YOU COULD STUNLOCK THEM" or "NO, HEAL drat IT! JUST HEAL ALREADY! 80% HP IS NOT SAFE ENOUGH! YOU'LL DIE! OKAY YOU DID IT WITHOUT INCIDENT, NOW loving HEAL!" I actually sometimes yell these things at my screen. I am a horrible human being.
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# ? May 10, 2016 22:45 |
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IGgy IGsen posted:It's true, and I'm the worst one. I'm trying to hold it in but... sometimes I just go. It's like "NO DON'T GO THAT WAY INSTEAD GO TO THE PATH THAT LOOKS SIMILAR BUT OBVIOUSLY LEADS TO A THING THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD IF YOU PLAYED AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT BUILD" or "NO, WHY DO YOU ONLY HIT ENEMIES ONCE OR TWICE WHEN YOU COULD STUNLOCK THEM" or "NO, HEAL drat IT! JUST HEAL ALREADY! 80% HP IS NOT SAFE ENOUGH! YOU'LL DIE! OKAY YOU DID IT WITHOUT INCIDENT, NOW loving HEAL!" This is why I can't watch Souls game streams.
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# ? May 10, 2016 22:46 |
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Simply Simon posted:It uses really little Stamina per swing, so if you're super into quick hits for whatever reason, you could buff it to hell and back and just R1 your way into some victories. As it also doesn't need many stats, this could "synergize" with said buff build that would put points in buff requirements instead. But no, really it is loving terrible. It might be marginally more stamina efficient than the Broadsword so you can dual-wield 2 broken weapons with poison and stunlock with alternating strikes until the poison kicks in. Still a gimmick more than it being actually useful.
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# ? May 10, 2016 23:50 |
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Fister Roboto posted:It's there in case you start as deprived and miss the dagger in Things Betwixt and the item geop hasn't seen maybe edit this?
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# ? May 11, 2016 02:05 |
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Was there a shop to buy weapons or did I just imagine it? I know you could buy armor and I'm pretty sure there were a few prohibitively expensive rings as well.
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# ? May 11, 2016 02:10 |
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RareAcumen posted:Was there a shop to buy weapons or did I just imagine it? I know you could buy armor and I'm pretty sure there were a few prohibitively expensive rings as well.
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# ? May 11, 2016 02:15 |
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JT Jag posted:Most of the weapons are sold by Lenigrast, and he's locked out of his shop. @RareAcumen: It's Shalquoir who sells the expensive rings.
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# ? May 11, 2016 02:23 |
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JT Jag posted:Most of the weapons are sold by Lenigrast, and he's locked out of his shop. NGDBSS posted:It's not so much "most" as "some". There will be more vendors along the way (it's a Souls game), but at the least Lenigrast does about what you'd expect of a blacksmith. Yeah I meant, 'did we see someone selling weapons in the videos currently released'.
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# ? May 11, 2016 02:49 |
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IGgy IGsen posted:It's true, and I'm the worst one. I'm trying to hold it in but... sometimes I just go. It's like "NO DON'T GO THAT WAY INSTEAD GO TO THE PATH THAT LOOKS SIMILAR BUT OBVIOUSLY LEADS TO A THING THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD IF YOU PLAYED AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT BUILD" or "NO, WHY DO YOU ONLY HIT ENEMIES ONCE OR TWICE WHEN YOU COULD STUNLOCK THEM" or "NO, HEAL drat IT! JUST HEAL ALREADY! 80% HP IS NOT SAFE ENOUGH! YOU'LL DIE! OKAY YOU DID IT WITHOUT INCIDENT, NOW loving HEAL!" Screaming fruitlessly at a monitor is fine, so far as this goes. As long as you don't take it to YouTube comments like so many folks do. "YOU'RE NOT PLAYING THE WAY I EXPECT YOU TO OR PERSONALLY APPROVE OF, ERGO YOU ARE THE WORST EVER AT THIS GAME" Okay, that's a bit hyperbolic (but only just), but YouTube people actually expressed surprise when I didn't cheese a given cheesable boss, and that was irritating. Like they thought I just wasn't aware it was an option and just needed to be told it was! "Uh, you do know you can just arrow/magic/geometry it to death, right? Heh."
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# ? May 11, 2016 02:55 |
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Squint posted:Screaming fruitlessly at a monitor is fine, so far as this goes. As long as you don't take it to YouTube comments like so many folks do. "vicas are you ever gonna change armor or try out different weapon sets" no no i am not
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# ? May 11, 2016 03:00 |
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Vicas posted:"vicas are you ever gonna change armor or try out different weapon sets" try parrying
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# ? May 11, 2016 03:43 |
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Squint posted:Screaming fruitlessly at a monitor is fine, so far as this goes. As long as you don't take it to YouTube comments like so many folks do. Man, I saw a video on Facebook a while back of some guy who had a summon do most of the killing of a boss, and there were people posting on their calling him a pussy and a retard for letting the summoned guy do most of the damage. People care way too much about this game, sometimes.
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# ? May 11, 2016 03:52 |
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PleasingFungus posted:maybe edit this? He's probably already found it by now, and I sincerely doubt that mentioning the existence of a common weapon and its general location is going to ruin anything.
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# ? May 11, 2016 04:00 |
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This is pretty rad
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# ? May 11, 2016 04:08 |
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Squint posted:Screaming fruitlessly at a monitor is fine, so far as this goes. As long as you don't take it to YouTube comments like so many folks do. Are you sure? Because Pat from Best Friends Play is doing Dark Souls 3 and I don't think this is actually an exaggeration.
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# ? May 11, 2016 04:16 |
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Fairly certain Geop mentioned being ten videos recorded ahead of episode two or four already, so you guys need to either keep it in your pants or start talking about areas beyond Heide's Tower of Pain if you wanna do this properly.Steak Eater posted:Are you sure? Because Pat from Best Friends Play is doing Dark Souls 3 and I don't think this is actually an exaggeration. Five games by From Soft and people still don't understand this: There is no such thing playing these games correctly. It's like sniping in any FPS's multiplayer, either you're poo poo and should just pick an RPG up or you're too good and are therefor hacking. There is no winning.
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# ? May 11, 2016 04:20 |
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It seems like the games where there's the most variability in how you can play the game is the one where a lot of people will really loving yell at you for doing it differently than they did. I remember Voidburger had a similar experience when she tried to stream the original Fallout; she got a bunch of flak that she was "playing it wrong." As long as the LPer isn't going full DSP on the game, it's pretty childish to be mad that someone didn't do things the same way you did.
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# ? May 11, 2016 04:26 |
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Speedball posted:This is why I can't watch Souls game streams. I can't watch blind playthroughs of most games, I've found, even games that I don't know well myself. Geop's Dark Souls (and now DS2) playthroughs are the exception because he has a good attitude and three backseat gamers saying all the things I wish I could say. But most of the time I just get frustrated at the player making mistakes and missing things that are so obvious holy poo poo just open your eyes uggggghhhhh that I turn it off. I never post comments about it or anything, it just gets in my way of enjoying it. And it's no fault of the player! It just isn't my thing. It's why I like Squint's Demon's Souls LP so much, or Chip Cheezum's LPs of, well, anything he plays. I love LPs where the player knows a ton about the game and can show off and share that knowledge.
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# ? May 11, 2016 04:49 |
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I'm still laughing at the idea that someone thinks there's 3 people trying to help Geop. 1 person is actively sabotaging him 1 person is doing a really great and funny Solid Snake impression and Vicas is helping, unless it's funny not to I mean it's perfect and all 4 of you are what's going to make this LP great, but is Geop really going to have an easier time than if he just did it himself?
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# ? May 11, 2016 05:01 |
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Jonny Nox posted:I'm still laughing at the idea that someone thinks there's 3 people trying to help Geop. Try parrying
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# ? May 11, 2016 05:14 |
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I'm glad to see this LP, as the last was fantastic. But my word is it hard to not yell at the screen. This LP made me go and reload Scholar as a break from DS3. I must admit it's much more fun to play now that they did that "fix" to durability on the PC, and thrusting weapons are more viable.
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# ? May 11, 2016 05:26 |
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Jonny Nox posted:I mean it's perfect and all 4 of you are what's going to make this LP great, but is Geop really going to have an easier time than if he just did it himself? He'd miss a ton of items and complete maybe three sidequests in the game.
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# ? May 11, 2016 05:28 |
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RareAcumen posted:He'd miss a ton of items and complete maybe three sidequests in the game.
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# ? May 11, 2016 05:37 |
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i bet geop would've found the emerald herald in a timely manner, i believe in him
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# ? May 11, 2016 05:48 |
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It took me foreeeever to find that first bonfire and I'm a bit disappointed that Geop's getting the helpful guide treatment right away. Also, fixed a ton of bugs with my Dark Souls map viewer I linked earlier. Next steps: get materials working properly (bumpmapping, lighting, etc.), and then do Dks2 and 3.
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# ? May 11, 2016 05:50 |
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Blind playthroughs are fine as long as they exist purely as blind playthroughs with well-adjusted players and not "I'm going to play blind but I also want to be entertaining so I'm going to play differently than how I would if I was truly playing blind with no audience". Video editing a blind playthrough is fine, but most of the magic is watching somebody's natural first playthrough, not a crafted first playthrough that usually ends up with both an annoyed player--because they don't even enjoy how they're playing--and an annoyed audience. Watching people approach and think through problems in different ways is entertaining, but watching people rush-play something or no-grind something they wouldn't normally is always terrible. A blind playthrough with 3 guys in the backseat is great because it's still geop playing how he wants to play but with additional help to ensure he's not missing bonfires or other things that would potentially end up wanting a lot of video editing.
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# ? May 11, 2016 06:03 |
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Harrow posted:Try parrying tongue but hole
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# ? May 11, 2016 06:22 |
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Suspicious Dish posted:Also, fixed a ton of bugs with my Dark Souls map viewer I linked earlier. Next steps: get materials working properly (bumpmapping, lighting, etc.), and then do Dks2 and 3. Once I actually finish 3, I can't wait to view all of the maps together to see how it compares to 1 on a design level (hah get it) because it seems very coherent compared to 2. Actually, I can't wait to see 2's as well, just so I can marvel at how weird it looks... especially one egregious choice for loading a zone later on.
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# ? May 11, 2016 07:23 |
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MiniFoo posted:I can't wait to view all of the maps together to see how it compares to 1 on a design level (hah get it) I don't, sorry. Also, just to kill the joke right out of the gate, I already modeled and reinserted the Awesome Blossom for Dark Souls. also also, that loading zone is 90% of internet discussions about Dark Souls 2. Shut up about it already.
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