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May 10, 2016 20:08
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VikingSkull posted:yup, shriek plus t tail = c-5 How do the C-5 and Il-76 compare on the noise front?
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May 10, 2016 20:10
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VikingSkull posted:I'm almost done with Command & Control, and they didn't do that stuff before 91 either lol I'm only like two chapters in and it's already gripping. Good job thread.
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May 10, 2016 20:14
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Big O will be the first serving US president to visit Hiroshima.
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Davin Valkri posted:How do the C-5 and Il-76 compare on the noise front? The Il-76 and C-141 are both quite a bit louder. That's not to say that a C-5 is quiet, though. I've yet to see a C-5M in person though, I'd imagine they're a lot more tolerable.
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It's not that a C-5 is loud, it's just that it sounds like some type of terrible space monster
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May 10, 2016 20:23
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VikingSkull posted:It's not that a C-5 is loud, it's just that it sounds like some type of terrible space monster To be fair, man has yet to devise an implement that is better at turning dozens of gallons of hydraulic fluid into aerosol than the C-5.
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May 10, 2016 20:27
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Davin Valkri posted:How do the C-5 and Il-76 compare on the noise front? I'm not sure if the old-engine Il-76s are still flying in the west - I'd say a modern C-5 and Il-76 are about the same. Old engine'd IL-76/86s are earth-shakers; way louder than anything comparable western.
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VikingSkull posted:yup, shriek plus t tail = c-5 You know, it may have been. I only caught the rear end end of it as it passed the trees.
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May 10, 2016 21:02
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Loudest goddamn jet I ever heard is a B-1B on takeoff roll. It's as if through noise alone the jet was testing the tensile strength of the woven fabric of reality.
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May 10, 2016 21:13
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Fat Leader continues the Kim dynasty's proud tradition of shameless nepotism.
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Sperglord Actual posted:Fat Leader continues the Kim dynasty's proud tradition of shameless nepotism. 3 weeks later: Kim-Jong Un's sister executed by rabid wolves
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MrYenko posted:Someone who's never been near a C-141 spotted. You can still hear the glorious sound of
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Godholio posted:You can still hear the glorious sound of True. Are there any KC-135Es still kicking around, or are they all baking in the desert, now?
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Sperglord Actual posted:Fat Leader continues the Kim dynasty's proud tradition of shameless nepotism. But didn't you hear? Dear Leader got a promotion!
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MrYenko posted:True. They're all CFM-powered.
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So, I just read an account of the sinking of K-278. It's pretty loving  Highlights include the hull getting so hot poo poo starts to melt off it, mass hypothermia, and a bunch of dudes trying to use a submerged escape capsule.
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When you're done with that, check out K-219.
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holocaust bloopers posted:Loudest goddamn jet I ever heard is a B-1B on takeoff roll. Got stuck behind one on takeoff. The afterburner jet cut across our nose. I could feel my lungs jiggling.
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MrYenko posted:True. I think Chile might have a few.
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holocaust bloopers posted:Loudest goddamn jet I ever heard is a B-1B on takeoff roll. An F-14 on afterburner doing a sneak pass at an airshow is probably mine, but the bone is
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The third TOW vs. T-90 video from Syria: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_CL6jPvg9o This one looks like a long range front/side hull hit (my guess is the side of the front hull right through the K-5/skirts). Didn't explode like the first one did, but the tank's a goner (propellant fire) based on the drone footage at the end. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 18:38 on May 12, 2016 |
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Warbadger posted:The third TOW vs. T-90 video from Syria: Russian "miracle anti-TOW" devices don't seem to be working as advertised. That's got to hurt sales.
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Blistex posted:Russian "miracle anti-TOW" devices don't seem to be working as advertised. That's got to hurt sales. I'm sure the Indians are happy they declined to spend the extra money for Shtora kits on their T-90s.
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I'm wondering if we might not be getting to another tipping point where AFV designers go back to light, fast, and LO vehicles to just avoid the hit in the first place. The proliferation of ATGMs is only going to get worse.
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May 13, 2016 00:28
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Or forgo armour in favour of CIWS like ships did.
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Cyrano4747 posted:I'm wondering if we might not be getting to another tipping point where AFV designers go back to light, fast, and LO vehicles to just avoid the hit in the first place. The proliferation of ATGMs is only going to get worse. This has been a debate since the '73 Yom Kippur war. Jury's still out.
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Smiling Jack posted:This has been a debate since the '73 Yom Kippur war. Jury's still out. The problem I see with this whole situation is that admitting that ATGMs are just going to kill poo poo and going fast, light, and LO will completely gently caress up the risk calculus for a lot of western militaries. As it stands our tolerance for risk is basically zero. It's just not politically acceptable to say that in an engagement vs. Third World Terrorist Group 4387 we're going to lose X% of our vehicles to whatever they have to throw at us. At the same time, the fact that even assholes like ISIS can get ATGMs now means we're probably already there. Force projection with minimal casualties has been a huge part of American foreign policy and crew survival has been a huge part of western tank design for 30 years at least. I really don't know which way you jump if you're the US Army. Well, other than just not get involved in quagmire conflicts of questionable utility, but that will probably happen about the time we're using Grover Lasers to suppress the Third Lunar Uprising.
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Forums Terrorist posted:Or forgo armour in favour of CIWS like ships did. The current strategy seems to be the status quo (tons of armor up front) plus hard kill systems to detect and kill the incoming missile like CIWS. Trophy on the Merkava worked fantastically against the Kornet, which stands out when compared to Russian T-90A's getting whacked by 80's era US ATGMs (and not even the top-attack variants at that), Saudi M1A1's getting whacked by 90's era Soviet ATGMs, and Merkavas getting whacked by Kornets in last conflict that was a thing in. I don't expect heavy armor to go away, because it does work and it does greatly reduce the number of things that are threatening to a tank. The successful missile attacks against the M1A1/T-90 and such have been to the sides/rear/top after all. Instead we'll probably seem some big changes in tank design along the lines of the T-14's smaller crew/automated turret to allow even greater amounts of armor in smaller packages. C.M. Kruger posted:I'm sure the Indians are happy they declined to spend the extra money for Shtora kits on their T-90s. Yep. The Russians also omitted it from the T-14 while keeping the smoke (which could be useful if somebody tries to drop a laser guided bomb or artillery round on your tanks). Based on the design you really shouldn't expect Shtora to work against anything aside from laser guided munitions or first gen SACLOS (and then only if the crew got lucky and had it on and pointed in the right direction at the time), so all of this was kinda expected unless you get your news from Russian marketing videos. The really odd thing is actually that the T-90A never deployed the Arena system past the first two trial vehicles and Russian APSs in general have been aimed at export rather than internal deployment. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 01:03 on May 13, 2016 |
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Forums Terrorist posted:Or forgo armour in favour of CIWS like ships did. Nuts to that, we need to double down and make land ships.
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Back Hack posted:Nuts to that, we need to double down and make land ships.  
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keep the spoilers for the next Mad Max movie out of this thread tia
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Truly, I was born in the wrong version of the multi-verse.
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Let's not forget the USS Battlewagon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMOYcPic7D4
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david_a posted:Yup, checks out, the future is awesome I'm the hydrofoil that renders the tracks completely useless.
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