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uniball posted:I know "don't burn bridges" is universal advice regarding leaving a job you hate, but in my specific situation I'm positive it was the right choice. It continues to feel soooo good. You sir demolished the bridge with TNT and salted the earth with napalm, I salute you. The freaky thing about their hosed up work culture is people buy into it (or at least the brand), I mean even at the first interview stage you have rabid apple fanbois who are desperate to tell you about all the mac and junk they own and how Windows sucks etc. EDIT: DigitalMocking posted:I immediately got up, locked my office door and tracked down the CTO to show him and wash my hands of that shitshow as soon as I could. This however is like having a bank heist just kind of... fall into your lap, wild stuff.
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feedmegin posted:You could probably have got good money for that on Silk Road! About $8 bucks per without CVV2, about $18 with CVV2. They had 1.4 million active and current credit cards in their user list in the end. Of those, they had 1.1 million with CVV2. I was tempted for about half a second, then decided I didn't want to go to jail forever, because that's probably what would have happened. Super Slash posted:This however is like having a bank heist just kind of... fall into your lap, wild stuff. I figured that list in the end would have been worth 22 - 24 million bucks. Edit: Oh yeah, we also had to go through full PCI audits over the CVV2 incident, since you know, you're NEVER EVER EVER supposed to save those, ever. DigitalMocking fucked around with this message at 23:12 on May 9, 2016 |
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rafikki posted:I don't think they care so much what you did, as long as it's something you admit so it can't be used to blackmail you. It's true and accurate. Money problems tend to get people to bend a hell of a lot more than occasional drug use or hooker. What I did find displeasing with the FBI was the rumor how an agent using marijuana was terminated but beating your wife gets you reprimanded. DigitalMocking posted:About $8 bucks per without CVV2, about $18 with CVV2. They had 1.4 million active and current credit cards in their user list in the end. Of those, they had 1.1 million with CVV2. How would you even know that data is even legit? It's not like there's a Silk Road V2 Dispute Policy - is there? uniball posted:I know "don't burn bridges" is universal advice regarding leaving a job you hate, but in my specific situation I'm positive it was the right choice. It continues to feel soooo good. This ought be on the SA Front-Page.
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Working for the feds is tough enough with their ridiculous preference for veterans.
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Tab8715 posted:How would you even know that data is even legit? It's not like there's a Silk Road V2 Dispute Policy - is there? How'd I know the credit card numbers are legit? It was pretty simple to see these were real numbers, expriation dates, names, address, phone numbers, but the kicker was the CVV2 field. There's no reason you'd ever fake that in a data dump since vendors are absolutely forbidden to keep them.
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May 10, 2016 00:56
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"Just send him the dump from 2011. All those cards are expired now anyway!"
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alg posted:Working for the feds is tough enough with their ridiculous preference for veterans. As a veteran - gently caress that noise. I'm happy I didn't pursue and civ job requiring a clearance and can smoke weed if I want, or sympathize with Snowden if I want, or do basically anything else I want - all this without dealing with outdated technology and lovely budgets and all the other bureaucratic bullshit that goes hand in hand with government work. /rant
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Kashuno posted:I am so happy I didn't accept a job offer from Apple for this position when I first moved because god drat When I was trying to move into NYC people were like "Oh you should work at the Genius Bar!" or "You should work for TekServe" and very rapidly I stopped being particularly polite in my responses that could be summed up as "gently caress you."
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Inspector_666 posted:When I was trying to move into NYC people were like "Oh you should work at the Genius Bar!" or "You should work for TekServe" and very rapidly I stopped being particularly polite in my responses that could be summed up as "gently caress you." For what it's worth, when it comes to PC Repair and Sales Apple or Microsoft will treat you by far the best. This going directly from compensation and general treatment from management. Granted, Uniball's experience was overwhelming negative it seems his manager(s) where idiots. Your mileage may very.
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The thing about security clearances is the intensity with which they are investigated seems to go in cycles. I joined the Navy in 1994 when the fallout from John Walker was still being felt throughout the services. I met people who knew him and who were being dragged through interviews just because of their association with him. Prior to Walker, the requirement for getting a polygraph every five years was largely ignored. Walker himself avoided taking several of them during his career because he knew he would fail. After his arrest, polygraphs were administered religiously. That kept up for several years and then after a while things started sliding back into the old, "we'll get to it when we get to it" mindset. Then Aldrich Ames was arrested, and the cycle started again. Snowden is just the latest in a long string of individuals who managed to get their clearances during a time when things were lax, and now things are tight all over again.
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I was under the impression polygraphs were pretty much useless and easily gamed?
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Jesus loving christ. This is some next-level poo poo here. Our development team INSISTED that they manage the backups/maintenance plan of the application they are developing - e.g. dba their own poo poo. Today their 'maintenance plan' broke in an amazing fashion and theyre throwing it back on me [attempting at least]. Sorry guys I keep a paper trail. Their maintenance plan: Every 3hrs, perform a FULL backup, of a production SQL database server, store it to a local disk, and append ALL backups to a single bakup.bak file. My jaw loving dropped when I took over on this one and saw database.bak file in excess of 400gb (for a 2gb database). No, let's ignore a dedicated, monitored, backup solution with dedupe, compression, and automatically growing/shrinking the allocated space, sitting on a dedicated backup SAN and VTL. Instead just save all our poo poo to local disks. And put it in writing. And then bitch when "the infrastructure guys let the backups break". gently caress you.
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Under no circumstances would I ever allow a development team to handle their own backups. That just sounds like a recipe for disaster.
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Walked posted:Our development team INSISTED that they manage the backups/maintenance plan of the application they are developing - e.g. dba their own poo poo. DevOps!
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feedmegin posted:I was under the impression polygraphs were pretty much useless and easily gamed? It's highly dependent on the skill of the person who is administering the polygraph.
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Internet Explorer posted:Under no circumstances would I ever allow a development team to handle their own backups. That just sounds like a recipe for disaster. No poo poo; I pushed and fought management on it - but that's why I got it in writing. I also stealthily have been at least backing up their system at the hypervisor level without them knowing, just in case they [inevitably] gently caress it all up. H110Hawk posted:DevOps! Conceptually I have no issues with tightly integrated systems / development people - in fact I have contributed code to our application in production. But gently caress if youre going to do some incompetent poo poo and try to shift blame. Walked fucked around with this message at 17:13 on May 10, 2016 |
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Walked posted:in fact I have contributed code to our application in production. 
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feedmegin posted:I was under the impression polygraphs were pretty much useless and easily gamed? As more and more evidence comes out regarding how useless they are, it seems like intelligence agencies double down their efforts to use them. It's basically a stressful two hours of sitting in a hot room while the proctor yells at you for breathing or moving your foot.
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psydude posted:As more and more evidence comes out regarding how useless they are, it seems like intelligence agencies double down their efforts to use them. There may be some value from being able to sweat out the inconsistencies in someone's story over a couple stressful hours even if the machine is objectively useless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN7pkFNEg5c
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:There may be some value from being able to sweat out the inconsistencies in someone's story over a couple stressful hours even if the machine is objectively useless. That may be true but going around pretending the machine is accurate is an issue. In court or otherwise.
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Stress also makes memory less reliable, and if you're asking someone about something that happened years ago, you're going to get false positives on people lying. Today I learned that I probably wouldn't qualify for a TS/SCI. Oh well, probably for the best.
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TS/SCI doesn't require a polygraph, if that's what you're worried about.
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No, not worried about that. I'm not sure how to explain it without  E: Nothing juicy, just political / religious. 22 Eargesplitten fucked around with this message at 22:41 on May 10, 2016 |
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psydude posted:TS/SCI doesn't require a polygraph, if that's what you're worried about. I hate to break it to you guys, but security clearances aren't like the movies. The person doing your investigation isn't jack bauer and its going to be a lot easier than you think it is. No, some guy isn't going to make you crack and spill the beans about the time you smoked a blunt in high school. Nobody is going to pull up you SA history lock you up. You aren't going to be hit with a telephone book and waterboarded. There is always so much hand wringing every time this topic comes up and only the people who have been through it understand how silly the process is.
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The most annoying part of the whole process is listing the address of every single place you've lived in the last 10 years and then listing someone who knew you while you lived there and that persons address and phone number. If you've moved a lot it takes a ton of time, and is just kind of annoying. And god help you if you were a college kid and got a minor in possession of alcohol or some other stupid charge because then the whole process just drags out longer.
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Or even worse, traveled to a foreign country ever.
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psydude posted:TS/SCI doesn't require a polygraph, if that's what you're worried about. yes it does, you're doing full lifestyle poly for compartmented anything
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JewKiller 3000 posted:yes it does, you're doing full lifestyle poly for compartmented anything I'm going to hazard a guess that most people working in IT in the IC aren't working with any compartmented information. Particularly since I work with several IC customers and none of them have required their staff, or me, to have anything above a CI poly (if that).
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Sickening posted:I hate to break it to you guys, but security clearances aren't like the movies. The person doing your investigation isn't jack bauer and its going to be a lot easier than you think it is. No, some guy isn't going to make you crack and spill the beans about the time you smoked a blunt in high school. Nobody is going to pull up you SA history lock you up. You aren't going to be hit with a telephone book and waterboarded. It boils down to don't leave poo poo out, lie, or downplay things. It's really a tedious process followed by a tedious wait. Oh, and everyone you know will be contacting you with a variation of "Somebody from the government came by and took me to get coffee and talk about you. I think it went OK, but they took a lot of notes."
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Just be a shut in with no friends or family, problem solved.
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GreenNight posted:Just be a shut in with no friends or family, problem solved. That's way more suspicious. Without anything to reference against, the risk profile of a person goes UP, not down. Being a stay at home shut in who never interacted with another person is not trustworthy, because it looks very fake.
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EoRaptor posted:That's way more suspicious. Without anything to reference against, the risk profile of a person goes UP, not down. And this is why you won't be able to get a job without a Facebook/LinkedIn/InstaTwitter in 5 years.
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GreenNight posted:Just be a shut in with no friends or family, problem solved. That was me at 18--the security guy will make fun of you for not having any friends. Clearance still granted. 
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I know this is probably small time ot most people but I set up my first commerical ftp server today 
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I've been a reference for someone getting a higher level clearance. What they want to know is if you are susceptible to blackmail or have financial vulnerabilities. Suppose you've got two candidates. The first one is completely sexually repressed and would be suicidal if his wife found out that he once looked at a pornographic picture of a woman's bare breasts. The second one is into all sorts of disgusting perverted but legal stuff. His wife is cool with it, his parents don't necessarily know but probably wouldn't give a crap. Which one is a greater security risk?
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Question is, are they really going to be pulling up your sexual deviance/internet history during a security screen? I would imagine they're more interested in your reliability and trustworthiness than your kink.
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Vargatron posted:Question is, are they really going to be pulling up your sexual deviance/internet history during a security screen? I would imagine they're more interested in your reliability and trustworthiness than your kink.
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^^ he got busted for giving his author girlfriend classified informationpsydude posted:Yeah, it was the FBI. They have a firm 10-year no-use period, which disqualifies basically everyone until their 30s. CIA and other intel agencies are a lot more tolerant of past drug use. Three years, actually. And just for weed. If you've done hard drugs then you're poo poo out of luck. CIA is cool with weed as long as it's not within the past year and you were never involved with sales or distribution. Sirotan fucked around with this message at 03:52 on May 11, 2016 |
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Contingency posted:That was me at 18--the security guy will make fun of you for not having any friends. 18 is okay for that, but have the same background at 25 or 30? Probably a big question mark. At 40+ and that background? I'd guess instant rejection.
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I mean, I would probably pass for the clearance equivalent in my country - but I don't want to deal with all that tediousness. There's better jobs out there that don't require all that stuff.
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