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I thought he was quite charming. Just got stuck in some clunky movies. I enjoyed little pieces of the Electro stuff and the overall look they had going quite a bit, it's too bad. Liked what I saw from the new actor as well... just find Spidey some better writing please.
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May 10, 2016 22:24
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Phylodox posted:Even after Uncle Ben died he was kind of a dick, to be honest. One of the first things he does as Spider-Man is break into the Baxter Building and gently caress up the Fantastic Four's poo poo to convince them to give him a job. Not long afterwards he crashes one of Johnny Storm's parties and starts fighting him for literally no reason but envy. And also (sort of) hits on his sister. Early Spider-Man was a big jerk and I love it.
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May 10, 2016 22:30
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Phylodox posted:James A. Garfield, 20th President of the United States of America. He failed to stop Charles Guiteau, who later killed his Uncle.
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Vintersorg posted:This is such a good and well choreographed fight with nice little jokes. Man I hated the score for ASM1.
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May 11, 2016 00:28
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Wonder Woman filming wrapped yesterday. Patty Jenkins has been tweeting out her thanks and whatnot to cast and crew. Love this image she posted because of how Gal clearly stands out in her costume: https://twitter.com/PattyJenks/status/730142777682579456 Looks like she's towering over everyone next to her too. She is Wonder Woman  [edit] Here's a higher-res version of the image in the tweet:  Hope we can maybe see a teaser in front of Suicide Squad? If not then, I imagine the Wonder Woman movie is going to be a huge push at SDCC. So stoked. teagone fucked around with this message at 00:45 on May 11, 2016 |
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May 11, 2016 00:38
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Themyscira, the birthplace of greenscreen. Seriously though, anticipating WW quite a bit.
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It's a missed opportunity that they went with a still image instead of a slowly panning black & white video with "Is She With You?" playing over it.
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TFRazorsaw posted:You know, if the X-Men are an allegory for minorities, LGBTA individuals, the neurodivergent, or other minority groups, they SHOULD be fun. Or else they're saying the experience of being different is all about suffering and people hating you. In practice, the X-Men are not an allegory for minorities. They are an allegory for gun control. Also, separately, for a very significant number of people affected, a major component of the experience of being different is about suffering and people hating you. Crion fucked around with this message at 10:24 on May 11, 2016 |
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May 11, 2016 10:19
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TFRazorsaw posted:Or else they're saying the experience of being different is all about suffering and people hating you.
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Sonic Guy knows being a minority sucks he just thinks media should primarily function as positive escapism.
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May 11, 2016 10:40
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I'm just amazed so many goons personally know Andrew Garfield.
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May 11, 2016 11:55
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Maybe Garfield is a goon. https://twitter.com/BretEastonEllis/status/727399215098269697
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May 11, 2016 11:58
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TetsuoTW posted:Congrats on being part of the majority and never having to think about this stuff I guess. I mean I sympathize with the point to some extent. Take the superhero allegory away and there's all sorts of manifestations of this trend - black actors generally getting nominated for major awards only when they're playing slaves or similarly ultra-abject categories of people, and so on. Obviously it's dope to acknowledge and discuss those depressing historical and contemporary realities rather than papering over them with some Song of the South poo poo, but I can see the desire to have one's experience fictively defined as something other than an endless parade of tragedy. That's the kind of mindset that leads to homebody popping into this thread to castigate Short Term 12 for having its protagonist be too competent at her job when everyone knows that "most" victims of abuse end up becoming abusers themselves, loving lol
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otoh AS A BLACK MAN, I'm glad none of the stuff in that vein that came out when I was a kid/saw when I was a kid was pure escapism. Static (and the whole Milestone line), Blankman, Priest's Black Panther, and so on - all that kind of stuff was appealing precisely because it wasn't frivolous Captain Planet Burger King Kid's Club kumbaya garbage. It had something to chew on and relate to.
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Oh for sure, hence the "to some extent". If I recall, Razorsaw does fit into at least one of the groups that he listed in that post, so if he's regularly dealing with enough heavy poo poo and the escapist route is his jam, more power to him. The "SHOULD" part is weird because that preference sure as hell isn't universal, but I can see where he's coming from
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Chairman Capone posted:First Class is not only my favorite X-Men movie, it's one of my favorite comic movies, and if you take out the Nolan trilogy which I think is on a different level, could be my favorite comic movie of all time. There are a few stumbles in it (the black mutant's death scene, the final fight scene is a bit overdrawn) but on the whole it's just so fun. Aside from the quality and chemistry of the actors, I think it's because it draws as much from Bond movies as it does from comic books. Plus, again outside of the Nolan trilogy, I think it has the best score of any comic book movie, one of the few I can actually put on and listen to throughout rather than just enjoy certain tracks from. I feel like I'm slowly realizing I'm alone in my hate of First Class. It's not that it's a bad movie - the Magneto storyline is amazing, and the battle at the end is fine, save the ridiculous conclusion with a magic bullet. It just had so many bad and embarrassing moments, that I can't even watch the thing. Stripper butterfly, slow-rolling tears for "mutant and proud", Kevin Bacon's horrible miscasting as Shaw, and Darwin's death scene, among others. The idea to set the film in the 60s was a good one, but beyond a few sets and wardrobe, it didn't really matter.
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So Vox gives us a list of the ranking of the MCU films: http://www.vox.com/2015/5/6/8558387/marvel-movie-ranking-captain-america-civil-war quote:13. Iron Man 2 The correct ranking is: 13. Iron Man 3 12. Incredible Hulk 11. Iron Man 2 10. Avengers: Age of Ultron 9. Thor 8. Ant-Man 7. Thor: Dark World 6. Captain America: Civil War 5. Guardians of the Galaxy 4. The Avengers 3. Captain America: First Avenger 2. Iron Man 1. Captain America: Winter Soldier I realize that rankings mean nothing, and these articles are garbage, but come on. Iron Man 3 was a committee-designed turd.
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May 11, 2016 18:01
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Nah Iron Man 3 is the best MCU film and took the most risks out of them. Or maybe it's The First Avenger? I still ain't seen that one, and I have a feeling I'll like it when I finally get around to it
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Yeah, you have to be thinking of Iron Man 2 as the committee designed turd. Iron Man 3 was a Shane Black movie starring Iron Man so they took him out of the suit for like 90% of the film. They also completely subverted everything involving involving the Mandarin. Even if you don't think it is a good movie (I'm pretty lukewarm on it) I would be interested to hear what you think the committee mandated stuff is.
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Jenny Angel posted:Nah Iron Man 3 is the best MCU film and took the most risks out of them. Or maybe it's The First Avenger? I still ain't seen that one, and I have a feeling I'll like it when I finally get around to it I guess if you really like scowling generic bad guys, Iron Man 3 is probably your jam. I'm not sure what was the worst about IM3: - HILARIOUS scenes of the Iron Man armor slamming into Tony's junk - Mandarin's goons attacking Iron Man's house on TV for like an hour and no police or anything show up - Unnecessary and silly mid-flight rescue scene ending with everyone in the water smiling and waving at Iron Man - Tony just goes, "gently caress it" and gets surgery so he doesn't need the armor to live - Terence Howard is replaced by Don Cheadle, who plays the most lame and generic possible War Machine, only existing to be saved by Tony or to be Tony, Jr. - Goofy sidekick Happy Hogan finds simple crime scene evidence the CIA/FBI/police could not - Killian is actually a lovely villain - The most interesting thing about the film, Tony's various armors, have a minimum of screen time - Tony takes on a new villain with his newest and least-tested suit of armor The stuff with the kid and his household-made weapons were the least objectionable things about the flick. Guy A. Person posted:Yeah, you have to be thinking of Iron Man 2 as the committee designed turd. Iron Man 3 was a Shane Black movie starring Iron Man so they took him out of the suit for like 90% of the film. They also completely subverted everything involving involving the Mandarin. Even if you don't think it is a good movie (I'm pretty lukewarm on it) I would be interested to hear what you think the committee mandated stuff is. I feel like a bunch of executives sat at a table, having lunch, and someone said, "What if we took Tony... out of the suit?", and immediately got pats on the back and a promotion to studio head. Red fucked around with this message at 18:14 on May 11, 2016 |
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May 11, 2016 18:12
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Guardians is easily the best, what the hell.
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Red posted:I guess if you really like scowling generic bad guys, Iron Man 3 is probably your jam. Are you literally 8 years old
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Red posted:I'm not sure what was the worst about IM3: Ah, so like, CinemaSins
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Jenny Angel posted:Ah, so like, CinemaSins At least one of those things didn't even happen in IM3.
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Red posted:I realize that rankings mean nothing, and these articles are garbage, but come on. Iron Man 3 was a committee-designed turd. I think you could give these 13 films to any forum member and you'd get a completely different list. These movies aren't objectively better or worse than each other, certain ones just hit certain notes for some and not others. I have my reasons for liking each over the next, but none of them are truly objectively bad - a bunch of them just don't work very well for me personally. Mine are something along the lines of: 13. The Avengers 12. Ant-Man 11. Avengers: Age of Ultron 10. Thor 9. The Incredible Hulk 8. Iron Man II 7. Thor: The Dark World 6. Iron Man 5. Iron Man III 4. Captain America: Civil War (tentative) 3. Captain America: The Winter Soldier 2. Captain America: The First Avenger 1. Guardians of the Galaxy For example, Iron Man II has tons of issues as a film. But personally I'd rather watch it over Thor, a much less problematic film, any day of the week. It's got some good action work, some really solid set pieces, I love Sam Rockwell, RDJ is always a blast to watch, etc. Thor just seems like a slough in comparison. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 18:21 on May 11, 2016 |
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Jenny Angel posted:Nah Iron Man 3 is the best MCU film and took the most risks out of them. Or maybe it's The First Avenger? I still ain't seen that one, and I have a feeling I'll like it when I finally get around to it Yeah, you should check it out. The ending is even better with knowledge of what's going to happen to Cap once he's thrust into Tony's hosed-up future.
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Having fairly recently rewatched most if not all of the MCU slate out of boredom, I believe my list goes something like Captain America: The First Avenger, Captain America: Civil War, I've Lost Interest in the Rest of this Exercise Iron Man 3 gets props for the Mandarin stuff and Tony's Breaking and Entering Adventure in Middle America but when you get to the point of debating the relative merits of Thor 2 and Iron Man 2, it begins to not particularly seem like a productive use of time Crion fucked around with this message at 18:22 on May 11, 2016 |
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If the you found the most interesting thing in the film to be Tony's various armors then yeah, you will probably hate the film.
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Sir Kodiak posted:Yeah, you should check it out. The ending is even better with knowledge of what's going to happen to Cap once he's thrust into Tony's hosed-up future. All I've seen of it so far is the war bond scene, which was wonderful. The deliberately inept sound mixing was such a beautiful touch
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Red posted:- Terence Howard is replaced by Don Cheadle, who plays the most lame and generic possible War Machine, only existing to be saved by Tony or to be Tony, Jr. This literally happened in Iron Man 2, which again was much more committee designed. quote:I feel like a bunch of executives sat at a table, having lunch, and someone said, "What if we took Tony... out of the suit?", and immediately got pats on the back and a promotion to studio head. If you think this scenario is at all realistic and that the immediate response wouldn't have been "but...toys" with a comical cut to the suggestion guy walking out of his office with a box of his belongings with the one small desk plant sadly drooping over the side, I have no idea what to tell you.
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Jenny Angel posted:Ah, so like, CinemaSins Doesn't make the criticisms any less valid. feedmyleg posted:I think you could give these 13 films to any forum member and you'd get a completely different list. These movies aren't objectively better or worse than each other, certain ones just hit certain notes for some and not others. I have my reasons for liking each over the next, but none of them are truly objectively bad - a bunch of them just don't work very well for me personally. Mine are something along the lines of: I bolded the sentence I agree with.  Thor is an interesting film that has some neat stuff, but Natalie Portman's presence just kills so much of it for me. The second Thor is much, much better, helped by less Portman - but elevated by the focus on the Loki and Thor relationship. I've really come to love Thor: TDW, even if most folks are 'meh' about it. The problem is that Malekith is interesting, but takes a back seat to Loki, and there's not a lot of tension with his goals. Iron Man 2, with a few changes, could have been a great film, which would've led to 3 being better. Tony Stark is really defined by his adversary - the first one worked so well because it's his past. The second one is... a meth-head Russian with a death wish? The third one is a shunned nerd who got ripped.
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Vintersorg posted:Guardians is easily the best, what the hell. 
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Clearly the correct order having not seen Civil War yet is Winter Soldier, Iron Man 1/ Deadpool, Uhh..., Maybe Ant-Man?, Hrrmmm. Guardians is schlock that looks pretty, Thor sucks, Captain America 1 is pretty okay, actually, it's somewhere after Ironman/Deadpool tie. Avengers and Avengers:Ultron are the Worst Offenders.
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Guy A. Person posted:This literally happened in Iron Man 2, which again was much more committee designed. That's true, actually - I'm remembering Rhodes hanging from the ceiling while Killian tried to burn through his armor. Guy A. Person posted:If you think this scenario is at all realistic and that the immediate response wouldn't have been "but...toys" with a comical cut to the suggestion guy walking out of his office with a box of his belongings with the one small desk plant sadly drooping over the side, I have no idea what to tell you. Hold on, hold on - your wonderful attempts at imagery and humor won't distract me. I don't think screen time necessarily dictates toys and licensing decisions, though. Maybe Iron Man 3 bugs me so much because the film centers around Tony trying to either use lovely armor, being stuck with a broken suit, or just rejecting the need for the suit at the end. Does Pepper get treated to remove the Extremis as well? Wrapping everything up at the end with surgery just seems so lazy.
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Drifter posted:Guardians is schlock that looks pretty, Thor sucks, Captain America 1 is pretty okay, actually, it's somewhere after Ironman/Deadpool tie. Guardians of the Galaxy is schlock on the surface, with interesting themes and subtext. Thor is great as soon as you realize it's a tragedy with Loki as the hero.
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Phylodox posted:Guardians of the Galaxy is schlock on the surface, with interesting themes and subtext. Thor is great as soon as you realize it's a tragedy with Loki as the hero. Red posted:So Vox gives us a list of the ranking of the MCU films: To me the "correct" ranking would be: 12. Incredible Hulk 11. Iron Man 2 10. The Avengers 9. Avengers: Age of Ultron 8. Ant-Man 7. Iron Man 6. Thor: The Dark World 5. Thor 4. Captain America: The First Avenger 3. Iron Man 3 2. Tie between Captain America: Winter Soldier/Captain America: Civil War 1. Guardians of the Galaxy Still to me 9~12 are the only ones I thought straight up sucked. Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 18:55 on May 11, 2016 |
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Red posted:I guess if you really like scowling generic bad guys, Iron Man 3 is probably your jam. No, I just really love Shane Black. I also really love James Gunn. But I think overall, Iron Man 3 is the best for me, if only for the extra dose of character development from the previous movies. CelticPredator fucked around with this message at 18:51 on May 11, 2016 |
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my pointless ranking: 12. Thor 2 11. Thor 1 10. The Avengers 9. The Avengers 2 8. Iron Man 2 7. Iron Man 3 6. The Incredible Hulk 5. Ant-Man 4. Captain America 3. Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Iron Man 1. Captain America 2 and really the top 3 are all you need, although 4-6 aren't bad.
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