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tsob posted:I'm not sure why you're acting like people are overly crediting Smith when most are saying it was better than expected given he was on it and he himself has always admitted he played little part in it since the show essentially makes itself and it's the writer who's really to credit. This. It was better than expected, and Smith gives most of the credit to the full time staff. 
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Smith really isn't a good director at all. His strength is as a story teller. His "Evenging With" specials are fantastic. I've often thought he would make a killing touring comedy clubs.
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May 11, 2016 20:15
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He tours colleges if that counts. Only as a speaker though, not as a comedian. They're pretty good watching, though usually overly long and best taken in chunks.
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May 11, 2016 20:19
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If Teddy Sears winds up staying for S3, we need a word filter that replaces his name with "MY SECRET IDENTITY HAS BEEN TURNED INTO A MEME BY SPEEDSTERS".
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May 11, 2016 20:25
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Actual thing that happened while I was watching this episode with my brother: Cisco mentions the morgue, we both go "that's where they store the mountain of metahuman corpses, obviously", scene change and when Cisco says "this is where we store all the dead metahumans" we have to pause playback because we are laughing so hard.
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May 11, 2016 21:12
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May 11, 2016 21:13
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I'm only 10 minutes into this ep and its like these are totally different characters. Good job, Smith!
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gently caress I hope this is a start of a trend for Iris's characterization. The one ethical person in a room full of mad scientists and pragmatists. This was the best Iris episode of the series, she had better lines than Cisco.
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May 11, 2016 22:27
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I thought that episode was fairly not-great. Iris was funnier and more likable, yea. But you're not allowed to just personality-transplant a character like that....
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May 11, 2016 22:45
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Feenix posted:I thought that episode was fairly not-great. Iris was funnier and more likable, yea. But you're not allowed to just personality-transplant a character like that.... It's what happens when she becomes "Iris West" and not "Barry Love Interest".
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May 11, 2016 23:00
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Feenix posted:I thought that episode was fairly not-great. Iris was funnier and more likable, yea. But you're not allowed to just personality-transplant a character like that.... So would you prefer they just keep doing a lovely job of writing Iris because that's what they've been doing? Feenix posted:I didn't say that. Just that it wasn't a very good episode in my opinion and everyone acted like new personalities in the same old bodies. You realize Smith didn't write it, right? Stunt Rock fucked around with this message at 23:35 on May 11, 2016 |
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May 11, 2016 23:09
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I didn't say that. Just that it wasn't a very good episode in my opinion and everyone acted like new personalities in the same old bodies. If they'd planned to have Iris evolve and grow that's one thing but it strikes me that everyone just becomes a snarky wisecracking Mallrats character for one episode and then goes back to normal.
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May 11, 2016 23:16
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Not sure why the awful app added my reply as an edit but it did so there you go. I also don't getting critique because this episode wasn't any quippier than the average episode of the Flash. "Suddenly Cisco is wisecracking. THANKS SILENT BOB."
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May 11, 2016 23:37
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Stunt Rock posted:You realize Smith didn't write it, right? You could tell he didn't write it because it was coherent and the dialogue didn't make you want to slam your head against the table(more than usual). You could tell he directed it because the most technical scenes were just stolen straight up from Guardians of the Galaxy.
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May 11, 2016 23:53
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.....I just realized that the episode was one big pep talk.
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May 12, 2016 00:00
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"Hey guys lets start writing Iris well." "You madman! We can't just instantly make this character good, the audience will never buy it! Let's gradually do a less lovely job of writing her. That's what people want." BrianWilly posted:.....I just realized that the episode was one big pep talk. Pep talks are the other source of Barry's powers.
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Feenix posted:I didn't say that. Just that it wasn't a very good episode in my opinion and everyone acted like new personalities in the same old bodies. Iris was the only one newly wisecracking and it came off natural because she was being exposed to poo poo that a lot of these guys that have been at this longer take for granted: "You have a morgue for metas  ""Just because he got hit with dark matter doesn't make him a speedster. I gave you that mug" Like I've said I hope it shows that they are going to make Iris the more grounded one because all of these people, even to an extent Joe, have been taking for granted the wacky sci-fi stuff they've been doing without slowing down to think "oh poo poo we shouldn't do this it's hosed".
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May 12, 2016 00:33
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Stunt Rock posted:Pep talks are the other source of Barry's powers. Barry lost in the speed force, asking what he needs to do to get his powers back. A blur goes past. "You need to catch that." Oh thank God, thinks Barry. A problem I have to solve by running faster. I was worried I'd have to go outside my comfort zone.
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May 12, 2016 00:35
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Fuego Fish posted:Barry lost in the speed force, asking what he needs to do to get his powers back. A blur goes past. "You need to catch that." Yeah it was cheesy, but the scene were Barry grabs the shadow, watching it transform into FlashBarry, and then Barry turning around as the Flash again had me grinning. Great job with the score there too.
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Guy A. Person posted:Iris was the only one newly wisecracking and it came off natural because she was being exposed to poo poo that a lot of these guys that have been at this longer take for granted: I agree. Iris was great this episode. I hope they keep it up but my expectations are low. When she's not being Iris West Love Interest, she should the grounded go getter audience surrogate. A friend of mine was talking to Lila, who wrote an episode this season, and she said that apparently the producers were shocked when they found out the audience wanted Iris to do more than be Barry's love interest. Ugh.
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May 12, 2016 00:44
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May 12, 2016 00:49
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People who watched Arrow (or god forbid, are still watching Felicity and Friends for some reason) have known these producers are morons, especially when I comes to female characters, for years.
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May 12, 2016 00:49
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Maybe next season Kevin Smith can direct an episode where Barry gets absorbed into the weedforce instead. It'll probably be the best episode of that season, too. Stunt Rock fucked around with this message at 00:54 on May 12, 2016 |
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May 12, 2016 00:50
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Stunt Rock posted:Maybe next season Kevin Smith can direct an episode where Barry gets absorbed into the weedforce instead. Barry would need a forest of weed to get high. Edit; or some Cisco-bred superweed variant
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May 12, 2016 00:58
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Stunt Rock posted:Maybe next season Kevin Smith can direct an episode where Barry gets absorbed into the weedforce instead. Next season, medical marijuana is legalized in central city. Cisco can no longer make power bars. Kevin Smith tells Barry what he's gonna have to do to eat that much.
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Not going to lie, I did look out for an appearance by Cockknocker in the crowd of metas at the end.
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So wait, is Citizen Cold a thing on Earth-2 or did we just see not-Snart Captain Cold in that shot of the metas?
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Scyantific posted:So wait, is Citizen Cold a thing on Earth-2 or did we just see not-Snart Captain Cold in that shot of the metas? Snart's the Mayor on Earth-2.
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DoctorWhat posted:Snart's the Mayor on Earth-2. They just said "Mayor Snart," they never said the first name. Could be his dad that's the mayor if they wanted to use an E-2 Leonard for something else.
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May 12, 2016 02:21
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Stunt Rock posted:Pep talks are the other source of Barry's powers. He just got a pep talk from the Speedforce, he is gonna run sooo fast now
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May 12, 2016 02:55
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For four or five episodes maybe. By episode two or three of season three he'll be needing to get faster and angsting over it again.
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May 12, 2016 02:59
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tsob posted:For four or five episodes maybe. By episode two or three of season three he'll be needing to get faster and angsting over it again. Barry you face your biggest enemy ever, The Fly Paper Man.
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May 12, 2016 03:03
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It really feels like they had the story beats for this season nailed down early, and then put no thought into how to tie them together. And just like the Star Wars prequels, it can actually sound pretty cool someone tells you the overall story arc. They wanted a fake Jay Garrick, a real Harrison Wells, a trip to Earth-2, Zoom stealing Barry's powers and him having to work as a normal person for a while, then have to go to the speedforce to get his powers back and come to peace with his mom's death. Cisco starts to become Vibe, and we set up Gorilla Grodd and Wally West/Jesse Quick for the future. Legends of Tomorrow was really an albatross around the first half's neck, too.
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May 12, 2016 03:23
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Barry you can do it. You just need more believes in yourself.
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Zoom is going to lose because no one will be around to give him a pep talk because he's a loser with no friends and people only pretend to be his friend because they feel sorry for him.
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They really had literally nothing that could deal with that guy? Wells' gun that he used on King Shark wouldn't do anything? Also, Christ Barry. Really couldn't exert yourself to tell Cisco that you gotta get your powers back first?
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May 12, 2016 04:17
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So is there a screencap and a list of the crowd Zoom was speaking to yet? Or was it just a bunch of generic Halloween costumes?
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