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gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Ytlaya posted:

They were clear about it when they first died and were sent to Gantz, but they never seemed to mention the subject with regard to each battle and no characters seemed to consider the possibility.

Actually, one thing that runs counter to my post is the fact that the Gantz people can continue to feel and move their body while it is still being transmitted to the hunting area. Like, someone can move their legs in the Gantz room while their head is in the hunting area, which seems to imply that their "whole self" is being transmitted rather than the original being deleted and a copy being made at the destination.

That is only evidence of the author adding dumb poo poo all the time without thinking anything through. See also: the entire drat manga.

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trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Ytlaya posted:

They were clear about it when they first died and were sent to Gantz, but they never seemed to mention the subject with regard to each battle and no characters seemed to consider the possibility.

Actually, one thing that runs counter to my post is the fact that the Gantz people can continue to feel and move their body while it is still being transmitted to the hunting area. Like, someone can move their legs in the Gantz room while their head is in the hunting area, which seems to imply that their "whole self" is being transmitted rather than the original being deleted and a copy being made at the destination.

The gantz ball has OCD and will scan the transferred brain actions and transmit them to the unconnected body. Also: vampires with batwing eczema who materialize weapons out of their bodies and resemble kill bill characters.

trucutru fucked around with this message at 23:23 on May 10, 2016

Relin
Oct 6, 2002

You have been a most worthy adversary, but in every game, there are winners and there are losers. And as you know, in this game, losers get robotizicized!

Serious Frolicking posted:

That is only evidence of the author adding dumb poo poo all the time without thinking anything through. See also: the entire drat manga.
every

mannnnnnnnnngggggggaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
new inu yashiki
http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Inu-Yashiki/Vol-007-Ch-056--God-and-the-devil?id=273205
again, it's not as good as pre-poo poo Gantz but it's not as bad as post-poo poo Gantz soooooo
it's basically Digital Kira right now. PUT DOWN THE SMARTPHONE OR DIE


chapter delivers on the core pillars of the series which are:
1.) Trembling Old Men
2.) Cute Dogs

Punkin Spunkin fucked around with this message at 04:09 on May 11, 2016

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
Nice old man with superpowers was a premise that deserved a spinoff, as he was one of the best parts of Gantz. So hey, at least that is one thing the gantz guy got right.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
as long as the old man trembles and the dog is cute, all is right with Inu Yashiki



look at that old man TREMBLE.

ahiwattamplifier
May 3, 2014
Magical Ossan, my favorite genre
Instead of a tricked out serafuku its jus his uniform from the military
Helps around the house and the farmers from the neighbourhood
His childhood friend who died in the war speaks to him through shiba inus

Slime
Jan 3, 2007
Watch as it turns out the dog died too, but has been better at hiding its robot superpowers.

Knife Dog 2.0.

Jo Joestar
Oct 24, 2013
I'm not entirely sure if this is Seinen or not, but Tsutomu Nihei has just published a new manga called Ningyou no Kuni (http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/ningyou-no-kuni-r18812). It seems to be a oneshot, but there's an obvious sequel hook at the end, so maybe it'll end up getting picked up fulltime?



It seemed interesting, though I think it's a shame he didn't go back to one of his older, pre-Knights-of-Sidonia styles.

Relin
Oct 6, 2002

You have been a most worthy adversary, but in every game, there are winners and there are losers. And as you know, in this game, losers get robotizicized!
Kind of meh. Looks like no one's translated the two special Sidonia chapters

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
I dropped out of Sidonia like X billion chapters ago because it felt completely incomprehensible
maybe I should dip back in?

I liked their assistant, Dorohedoro is the bomb

Laputanmachine
Oct 31, 2010

by Smythe
Speaking of Dorohedoro, I finally picked it up and it owns. I remember someone saying it's like Shirow's works such as Appleseed, before he started just drawing oily porn pinups and I got the same vibe. NIkaido and Caiman's chemistry reminds me a bit of Deunan and Bri, minus the romance and I like it.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
my only complaint about dorohedoro is the world feels a bit small. both of them

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
My only complaint is I barely grasp the "main plot" through the last like 20 chapters, but it's just so awesome I don't really care

gay devil
Aug 20, 2009

TheFallenEvincar posted:

I dropped out of Sidonia like X billion chapters ago because it felt completely incomprehensible
maybe I should dip back in?

I liked their assistant, Dorohedoro is the bomb

Everything Nihei does is cool looking but incomprehensible. Sidonia is still magnitudes more coherent than his previous works like BLAME.

Randallteal
May 7, 2006

The tears of time
Sidonia's plot mostly fell into place for me around two or three volumes in. There's a dreamy kinda David Lynch vibe to how characters act in that book that I could see turning a lot of people off, though. A secret antagonist's evil plot will be revealed and then that character won't be used for anything except mild comedy for two volumes. You've really got to be into it for the psycho-sexual weirdness, cool robots and big empty vistas.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
...was the main character of I Am a Hero always trying to creep so hard on banging this highschool girl??? it feels like some worm turned but the update schedule is too slow for me to be sure

now they're all like, ignoring caution, drinking on the beach, chilling, he's breaking laws devil may care...who gets WASTED out in an open space during the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE??
I'm not sure if this is character development or if Kengo Hanazawa just had an aneurysm

Punkin Spunkin fucked around with this message at 20:59 on May 12, 2016

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Jose posted:

my only complaint about dorohedoro is the world feels a bit small. both of them

I kind of think that it's supposed to. Dorohedoro doesn't really take place on the Earth, and as far as we know their world really is small.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
Yeah, I like the coziness of the setting.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
I find it sort of amusing that the setting of dorohedoro coincidentally has some similarities to the setting of bleach. It isn't a very strong similarity, of course. Just a few things here and there that are alike.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Ytlaya posted:

I kind of think that it's supposed to. Dorohedoro doesn't really take place on the Earth, and as far as we know their world really is small.

i know its not meant to take place on earth but there are 2 cities the magic users materialise in and then clearly a huge world that isn't just these cities that is never explored. i don't mind en being ruler of the world so much even if it makes it small but i'd like it to be a bit bigger

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Jose posted:

i know its not meant to take place on earth but there are 2 cities the magic users materialise in and then clearly a huge world that isn't just these cities that is never explored. i don't mind en being ruler of the world so much even if it makes it small but i'd like it to be a bit bigger

I feel like a large world is the sort of thing that sounds good in theory, but in practice more often than not ends up being worse for a story. A smaller world allows you to focus more on a more limited area, and fortunately Dorohedoro's uncharacteristic fantasy setting allows it to do this without running into the problem of being unrealistic that other "literally everything of importance happens in one Japanese city*" stories suffer from.

*World Trigger is my favorite example of this; this Japanese city that is literally the only point of contact with literal aliens functions more or less as usual outside of this one base and the rest of the world seems to have zero involvement.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
Well, in world trigger you just have to assume that no one else in the world wants access to all that bitchin' human-powered alien weaponry. That manga has a lot of stuff that requires suspension of disbelief, really. For dorohedoro, magic users are awful and no one wants to deal with them.

Pewdiepie
Oct 31, 2010

That last panel of I am a hero Ftw.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Pewdiepie posted:

That last panel of I am a hero Ftw.
Yeah it's really really good

And hideo has always been kind of a creeper

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.
Is Dorohedoro any closer to being finished.

I've said this before but I've been putting off reading it until it's all over so I can burn through the whole thing in one fell swoop.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
It's in the final arc, when that finishes, I couldn't say.

Wild Horses
Oct 31, 2012

There's really no meaning in making beetles fight.
What we learned this chapter: En is strong, so strong. :unsmigghh:

Webcormac McCarthy
Nov 26, 2007
Dorohedoro which chapter did Nikaido just flash-back to, in that panel?

ahiwattamplifier
May 3, 2014
IAAH is getting a bit yucko with this storyline

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Kengo hanazawa has done two of my favorite series prior to IAAH so I'm still gonna trust'im to continue making IAAH great even if hideo is being a bit of a weirdo right now with the I WANT TO BONE THIS SUPERZOMBIE HIGHSCHOOLER RIGHT NOW thing. Though I suppose he's always been fairly forward with his perversions throughout the series

I guess with ressentiment and boys on the run behind me (aside from those LAST FEW UNTRANSLATED CHAPTERS OF BOTR GODDAMMIT) I'm used to kengo's shitbag creeper protagonists by now

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
Can anyone who's been reading Billy Bat explain to me what happened leading up to and during the most recent timeskip? As far as I can tell the heroes discovered the cave was a trap, while Timmy's hitmen fell for it; then Kevin Goodman spent the next 15 years looking for Kevin Yamagata's true location, and the fat guy apparently finds him more quickly and works as his disciple. Partly I'm confused because Maggie Momochi appears to have not aged at all over 15 years.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Oh, regarding Rin, did the plot ever address the fact that Norito is doomed to have his manga career (and life) cut short by the same disease his sister and mom had? His sister got it in her late 20's iirc, which is kinda bad if you want to make any sort of impact as a manga artist.

edit: Something else I noticed while re-reading Rin and looking at the comments is that a lot of people really loving hate Honda. I don't understand this. There is literally nothing wrong with Honda; she is just a normal person who wants to be friends with Fushimi because Fushimi is a talented manga artist and that's a cool thing. Her wanting to do social things with Fushimi is not "leading him on" because she doesn't even have any reason to believe he's interested in her (she can't read his mind).

Fortunately the author obviously agrees with this, and throughout the entire comic Honda continues to be a normal, friendly person instead of suddenly betraying Fushimi or something.

Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 01:13 on May 16, 2016

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Ytlaya posted:

Oh, regarding Rin, did the plot ever address the fact that Norito is doomed to have his manga career (and life) cut short by the same disease his sister and mom had? His sister got it in her late 20's iirc, which is kinda bad if you want to make any sort of impact as a manga artist.

edit: Something else I noticed while re-reading Rin and looking at the comments is that a lot of people really loving hate Honda. I don't understand this. There is literally nothing wrong with Honda; she is just a normal person who wants to be friends with Fushimi because Fushimi is a talented manga artist and that's a cool thing. Her wanting to do social things with Fushimi is not "leading him on" because she doesn't even have any reason to believe he's interested in her (she can't read his mind).

Fortunately the author obviously agrees with this, and throughout the entire comic Honda continues to be a normal, friendly person instead of suddenly betraying Fushimi or something.

Was there ever a reason to suspect that Norito had the disease too? I don't recall any foreshadowing and its not like since one person in the family has that type of disease that everyone will come down with it. I don't recall it being a thing for him.

Law Cheetah
Mar 3, 2012

That Works posted:

Was there ever a reason to suspect that Norito had the disease too? I don't recall any foreshadowing and its not like since one person in the family has that type of disease that everyone will come down with it. I don't recall it being a thing for him.

theres no reason to say he definitely has it, but its a genetic disease and his sister has it too and he has tons of anxiety about getting it. his rationale for pursuing manga the way he does is "one day, and it might be really soon, i may be completely incapable of drawing". he doesnt definitely have it, but its wrong to automatically assume he doesnt too. its left a bit up in the air. honestly, i dont think it matters at all to the story as presented if he has it or not.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
I think it's handled extremely well. Yeah. He could develop it eventually, and it would devastate his manga career. Or he might not! If the author were to drag out the series just to use that plot device I'd rather it end here because the disease isn't relevant to his story. His sister has it, she's slowly losing her battle with it, and it's loving devastatingly well portrayed in Rin more so than most series I've seen. But it doesn't need to be his thing too for the sake of drama and prolonging the series, you know?

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Captain Invictus posted:

I think it's handled extremely well. Yeah. He could develop it eventually, and it would devastate his manga career. Or he might not! If the author were to drag out the series just to use that plot device I'd rather it end here because the disease isn't relevant to his story. His sister has it, she's slowly losing her battle with it, and it's loving devastatingly well portrayed in Rin more so than most series I've seen. But it doesn't need to be his thing too for the sake of drama and prolonging the series, you know?

Oh I agree that him angst-ing a bunch over it would have been pointless, I was just curious if they had ever mentioned it again after him going "I'm virtually guaranteed to get it while I'm still young if my sister also got it in her mid-to-late twenties!" It's definitely kinda a bummer knowing that he might face such tragedy relatively soon after the story ends, though.

In retrospect the ending was actually pretty good. The only thing that's disappointing is that there wasn't really much romantic resolution. Like, yeah, it's not really necessary (since he says "I guess I always loved Rin" at the end), but it still would have been nice to at least have him express his feelings to her at some point.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Ytlaya posted:

Oh I agree that him angst-ing a bunch over it would have been pointless, I was just curious if they had ever mentioned it again after him going "I'm virtually guaranteed to get it while I'm still young if my sister also got it in her mid-to-late twenties!" It's definitely kinda a bummer knowing that he might face such tragedy relatively soon after the story ends, though.

In retrospect the ending was actually pretty good. The only thing that's disappointing is that there wasn't really much romantic resolution. Like, yeah, it's not really necessary (since he says "I guess I always loved Rin" at the end), but it still would have been nice to at least have him express his feelings to her at some point.

I liked the way it ended on that. There was certainty about what he was going to do and this way provided that without having to get into the reactions etc afterward. Counterpoint in Beck he had that sort of resolution between the main character and love interest at the music festival and then ended up drawing out that relationship in more annoying ways for a long time afterwards that weren't really all that good from a story perspective and kinda made you like the girl less.

Wookie Bouquet
Jan 27, 2013

Too tsundere to drive.
New Dorohedoro http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Dorohedoro/Vol-021-Ch-143--Birthday?id=273736

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Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit

Jo Joestar posted:

I'm not entirely sure if this is Seinen or not, but Tsutomu Nihei has just published a new manga called Ningyou no Kuni (http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/ningyou-no-kuni-r18812). It seems to be a oneshot, but there's an obvious sequel hook at the end, so maybe it'll end up getting picked up fulltime?



It seemed interesting, though I think it's a shame he didn't go back to one of his older, pre-Knights-of-Sidonia styles.

I think it's pretty drat cool, it packs all the old Nihei themes into one dense, easily digested package, flowing well with no downtime. There's a fragile society, as well as alienation, and technological horror, and amoral machines judging humanity as unworthy.

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