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This all is due to a single company controlling the media in Brazil, imagine if fox news was the only in the US or the daily mail in the UK and you get result as to why Brazil is hosed.
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so from what i've read about dilma it sounds like basically a greek tragedy. progressive reformer devotes her career to taking on the monstrosity that is the brazilian political establishment, almost succeeds, but fails and gets eaten alive by the monster
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icantfindaname posted:so from what i've read about dilma it sounds like basically a greek tragedy. progressive reformer devotes her career to taking on the monstrosity that is the brazilian political establishment, almost succeeds, but fails and gets eaten alive by the monster Dilma didn't take on the political establishment, she just didn't use her executive powers to impede the investigations as the web of corruption began unravelling. She lost her powerbase because her political allies were corrupt as gently caress and being investigated and saw her refusal to cover it up as as a betrayal.
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May 12, 2016 15:41
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List of cabinet positions Temer is merging or eliminating: Labor and social security gets several of its attributes switched over to finance. education (merged with culture) science and technology (merged with communications) Social development (merged with agriculture) human rights (merged with justice) Ports and aviation (merged into transports) Of course, it is completely legitimate to argue that there were too many cabinet positions. But the ones that are being merged or eliminated is pretty telling. Can't have a labor, human rights, education or science and technology position. But of course we will keep the sports, cities, and "national integration" positions. hoiyes posted:Dilma didn't take on the political establishment, she just didn't use her executive powers to impede the investigations as the web of corruption began unravelling. She lost her powerbase because her political allies were corrupt as gently caress and being investigated and saw her refusal to cover it up as as a betrayal. well, she did fire Cunha's proteges from Furnas. Which doesn't count as "taking on," but shows how much the entrenched corrupt politicians control things. In fact, Dilma would still be president if she hadn't done 3 things: - Taking away ministries from PMDB in late 2014 to put technical people in place, especially in science and technology and development - Fire Cunha's proteges for stealing too much - Let PT vote against Cunha in the ethics commission. All else could have been equal, but these three little things essentially ended her chances. And now Cunha, who is temporarily suspended, got Temer to nominate his defense attorney as minister of justice. joepinetree fucked around with this message at 16:24 on May 12, 2016 |
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May 12, 2016 16:09
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No minister of labor haha what? I'm so out of here at the end of the year if not earlier. So long and thanks for all the beans.
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Oh, the ministerio do trabalho will still exist. Just a lot of its functions have been switched over to finance, including social security. I will edit my post above to clarify
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May 12, 2016 16:23
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joepinetree posted:List of cabinet positions Temer is merging or eliminating:
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I don't know about that. But at least we are upfront about our banana republic status now, seeing as there are cabinet level positions dedicated exclusively to sports and to tourism, but not education or science and technology. I guess it makes total sense, since sports and tourism are Edit: Oh, and Cunha's former defense attorney and public safety secretary for Sao Paulo is not only minister of justice, but responsible for human rights too. joepinetree fucked around with this message at 19:03 on May 12, 2016 |
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May 12, 2016 18:53
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joepinetree posted:Edit: For those not in the know, he recently authorized the use of lethal weapons against protesting students who were occupying a building, and was the latest overseer of a police force that killed more people in one state than the entirety of the US's police force combined (our crime rates were surprisingly unaffected). Oh, and also possibly has some ties to the organized crime group PCC. So, good guy.
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This new government is the worst parts of the PT government combined with the worst parts of the PSDB government. Agriculture minister is the winner of the golden chainsaw award The new budget and planning minister is known for reducing Yanomami reservations by some 75% and opening them up for logging. The evangelical pastor I mentioned earlier will not take over science and technology, but development instead. Edit: http://www.valor.com.br/politica/4560819/gilmar-mendes-suspende-diligencias-em-inquerito-contra-aecio-neves HAHAHAHA joepinetree fucked around with this message at 00:08 on May 13, 2016 |
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May 12, 2016 20:22
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so i was reading the list of ministers, and since Temer nominated at least 2 new ministers who are being accused in the lava-jato investigation, surely the STF will block those nominations and indict the new president for obstruction of justice. right? also, no women. the son of a torturer as head of ABIN. The sons of Sarney, Jader Barbalho and Jorge Picciani. Meet the new boss, At least the creationist evangelical dude was nominated for development, industry and commerce instead of science and technology. Magrov fucked around with this message at 01:56 on May 13, 2016 |
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May 13, 2016 01:50
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They will do that the same day the new government appeals STF's decision to block the collection of new evidence against Aecio.
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May 13, 2016 04:03
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http://i.imgur.com/pSVYBLf.webm gently caress this country.
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At least you're not Venezuela?
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https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/731130181541302272 Thanks Plutonis
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Sorry Brazil. Wonder how the olympics are gonna go.
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tekz posted:Sorry Brazil. Wonder how the olympics are gonna go. so, so good
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Patrick Spens posted:At least you're not Venezuela? Interesting comparison. Can you imagine the international reaction if Venezuela did something like this?
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So one of the first things Temer wants to do as president is eliminate the national salary floor for teachers. Instead of having a federal law that sets the minimum states and cities can pay teachers, Temer wants to set up a "performance bonus" system that would be based on student performance on standardized tests.
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Aw guys don't be so harsh with the new cabinet. Maybe they relieved the Ministry of Labor of a few responsibilities because they plan to terceirize it 
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joepinetree posted:So one of the first things Temer wants to do as president is eliminate the national salary floor for teachers. Instead of having a federal law that sets the minimum states and cities can pay teachers, Temer wants to set up a "performance bonus" system that would be based on student performance on standardized tests. Probably worth pointing out that the salary floor for a teacher pays about the same as a house maid (one-tenth of gently caress all), for a job that's probably ten times the stress. So, holy poo poo.
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Alertrelic posted:Interesting comparison. Can you imagine the international reaction if Venezuela did something like this? Dead silence?
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Meanwhile in Porto Alegre...   Pigs thinking they're in the Napoleonic Wars. 
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allow me to quote the top comments of that news story on the globo website:quote:Silvana Silva ... quote:Joachim 
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Negrostrike posted:Meanwhile in Porto Alegre... An acquaintance of mine was on the protests, she said everyone was calm and some people were actually sitting down but the BM don't give a gently caress and just bombarded everyone with lacrimogenic gas because of course they did. Ah, our governor is PMDB. State workers (including those policemen, by the way) here have been receiving their salary piecemeal since last year because austerity measures, and it shows no sign of stopping seeing that it's not like it made even a slight difference to our economy.
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Considering the new justice minister called anti impeachment protests "guerrilla acts," that is going to happen more and more. In fact, getting tough with social movements was one of the main things is his speech. Edit: And if anyone wonders what the whole thing is really about, here's one example: Dilma, to try to deal with the deficit, had proposed an inheritance tax and a tax on donations to one's descendants. It wasn't the first time that PT tried to get that through. The new finance minister backed away from that and said that the topic "needs more study" before that is proposed. Meanwhile, he wants to reduce social security benefits including for those already retired, increase retirement age, and cut 35 billion in health spending. The new attorneu general has also claimed that he thinks 30 to 40% of Bolsa Familia recipients should be ineligible for it. Dilma's government was a terrible, incompetent government that was way too comfortable with certain corrupt figures. The Temer government is actively evil and regressive. joepinetree fucked around with this message at 14:33 on May 14, 2016 |
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Am I the only one thinking that Brazil needs a socialist revolution?
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Grouchio posted:Am I the only one thinking that Brazil needs a socialist revolution? Good god no. Learn from your neighbors, this is the last thing Latin America needs.
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fnox posted:Good god no. Learn from your neighbors, this is the last thing Latin America needs. It certainly needs a mass reduction of sociopaths. Preferably involving the guilotine.
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Crowsbeak posted:It certainly needs a mass reduction of sociopaths. Preferably involving the guilotine. Yeah applied to the people calling for using said guillotine. What a country such as Brazil needs in its situation is responsible government and measures against corruption to create the space where actual economic and social reforms can be implemented. What it does not need is a spiral of violence, chaos and societal breakdown. Jesus Christ
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Randarkman posted:Yeah applied to the people calling for using said guillotine. Frankly until the people who only see the country as their personal toy are fertilizer and people know that believing that makes you fertilizer the country will have problems. Oligarchs must be ground down.
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fnox posted:Good god no. Learn from your neighbors, this is the last thing Latin America needs. i mean i'd take that over the evangelical state What we ACTUALLY need is a viable social-democrat party that's willing to fight against the current oligarchy and the old political powers, with backing from the general population and willingness to make a fuckton of enemies. i'll also take an unicorn and a date with Débora Nascimento while we're delusional
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brazil needs obama imo
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Dias posted:i mean Venezuela is much more gently caress than Brazil can dream of being.
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I mean, what Brazil needs is an elite that doesn't treat the state as their own personal fiefdom. One of the things my right wing, US loving Brazilian friends don't understand is that Reagan would be a full blown communist if he proposed his tax structure in Brazil. Not only Brazilian taxes are ultra regressive, but most of the state is set up as a way to privilege the ruling classes. Take our judiciary. One of the things that Dilma tried to do this year that caused immense revolt within the judiciary was to limit the so called "auxilio moradia." Auxilio moradia is a stipend to pay for housing expenses. It used to be only for those judges who were transferred to another city and where there was no public lodging for them. But the judges who benefit from it themselves decided to expand it. So anyone who doesn't live in an apartment provided by the government gets R$4300 and change a month (over 5 times the minimum wage). That amount is tax free, and the judiciary employees do not need to show any receipts or need for it. They get it even if they are working in their home town, or if they have a house where they work. It's a way to have high level employees of the judiciary go above the national cap for public employees. It costs over a billion reais a year to the government. Dilma tried to restrict it to those living outside their home towns and to have them have to show receipts to be reimbursed, and of course was defeated in the courts. So it is not uncommon for federal judges in Brazil, even at the lowest levels, to take home R$50,000, on top of 60 day vacations, and a bunch of other benefits. As a percentage of GDP, Brazil spends about ten times more on its judiciary than the US. Of course, no one freaks out over this. But people freak the gently caress out over bolsa familia, which pays less than R$200 reais to low income families.
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Grouchio posted:Am I the only one thinking that Brazil needs a socialist revolution? Maduro has just about finished with Venezuela, I'm sure he'd be willing to take over you guys in a few years.
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If anyone had any hopes that the fight against corruption would continue, the last week should have destroyed that notion. First, the new minister of justice claimed that the reason he conducted so few investigations against PSDB in sao paulo is because "honest governments are investigated less." And now he's announced that one of the best practices PT has created will be done away with. PT started the practice that the attorney general is elected by the federal attorneys. The new minister of justice has decided to do away with that and go with political appointees again. edit: not to mention the position of comptroller general losing its legal status, becoming the "ministry of transparency" and getting political appointees again. Like, if you were thinking "what could Temer do to make sure that no one else is indicted in the petrobras scandal and people focus only on PT?" well, he's done everything that would show up on your list. joepinetree fucked around with this message at 15:07 on May 16, 2016 |
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Here's a part of the interview: http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/poder/2016/05/1771609-nenhum-direito-e-absoluto-e-pais-precisa-funcionar-diz-ministro-da-justica.shtml Edit: Is there any other news outlet that we can use other than Folha? Space Kablooey fucked around with this message at 15:16 on May 16, 2016 |
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Now Temer is going over his minister's head and saying he won't discard the internal picks. I gotta laugh at how crass and clumsy these so-called masterminds are. They couldn't even wait for some scandal or even goo news to cover up their play. Just stomp ahead like a drunken elephant. I guess having the monolithic support of the media and the courts does make one overconfident.
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