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Aesop Poprock posted:I think Stone Cold has owned up to being a drunk rear end in a top hat who went through "dark times" but I don't think he's ever directly talked about and apologized for being abusive to Debra. Whether you consider that enough is up to you, but I feel like he's gotten away with not having to confront it outright just because of who he is. This has been mentioned before and I'm pretty sure people said in response that he goes over it in his book in detail. I haven't read it though. Personally I don't want an apology from Steve Austin for his domestic abuse and it would be weird to have one.
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May 12, 2016 16:43
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Is it now illegal to like Mark Henry
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May 12, 2016 17:10
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projecthalaxy posted:Is it now illegal to like Mark Henry The opposite, it is illegal to not like Mark Henry.
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May 12, 2016 17:17
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Captain Magic posted:Personally I don't want an apology from Steve Austin for his domestic abuse and it would be weird to have one.
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May 12, 2016 17:17
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Rowdy Ringsports is a very confusing place because Mark Henry is a large black wrestle man, but he is also a white boxer man and coaches Frankie Edgar. What's not confusing is the fact that both are cool guys and cool dads.
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May 12, 2016 17:20
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Mark Henry is a pretty poor in workrate terms but he's really good at promos and presence and it's a shame it took him like fifteen years to figure those two out.
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May 12, 2016 17:55
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Mark Henry was a great guest on Talk is Jericho. He talked about how his entire main event run came about from Vince ribbing him. He also talks about Vince trying to outdo him in the gym lifting weights. Also, I had no idea he won so many legit strength competitions and still held so many records.
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May 12, 2016 17:57
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Smoking Crow posted:Shawn Michaels Shawn never really owned up to being a complete rear end in a top hat who was always pilled to the gills, he just doesn't give a poo poo and when someone tells him how much of a garbage person he was his response is always "oh ok meh" Look at that interview he did with Bret when Bret came back and Shawn basically never acknowledges being a piece of poo poo when Bret accuses him of it instead going "if you say so I guess" every time
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May 12, 2016 18:00
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There was also that amazing time when Henry was called out and told to lay down for Orton. So he looked like he was going to, then stopped, went "Nuh uh" and crushed him instead.
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May 12, 2016 18:05
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Lucha Underground just had a pretty disappointing hoss-off but when I think about it, most of them are. What are some all-time classic-level hoss-offs? Batista / Undertaker maybe?
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May 12, 2016 18:07
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Lucha Underground just had a pretty disappointing hoss-off but when I think about it, most of them are. What are some all-time classic-level hoss-offs? Andre the Giant Vs Stan Hanson is the greatest of all time. Scott Steiner Vs Goldberg at Fall Brawl 2000 is one of the very few late WCW matches worth watching.
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May 12, 2016 18:11
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Captain Magic posted:Mark Henry was a great guest on Talk is Jericho. One year he entered a competition spur the moment, maybe one of the Arnold ones, and destroyed everyone. WWE didn't even mention it or push him afterwards, instead let him do nothing for months.
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May 12, 2016 18:11
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I want to see Vince McMahon making GBS threads himself and screaming trying to lift more than Mark Henry while Henry just laughs.
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May 12, 2016 18:15
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Big Bossman vs Akeem, but only because it consisted of Bossman ducking a punch, Bossman Slamming him and winning in like under a minute. There's your Twin Towers blowoff.
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May 12, 2016 18:40
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HerraS posted:Shawn never really owned up to being a complete rear end in a top hat who was always pilled to the gills, he just doesn't give a poo poo and when someone tells him how much of a garbage person he was his response is always "oh ok meh" I'm a guy in recovery so maybe that colors my perception, but I didn't get "if you say so, I guess" from that as much as "if you say that's how it happened, then that's how it happened" out of respect for Bret. Drug use fucks with your memory and your motivations--half the trouble I got into while drugging I was stone sober at the time, and I still don't recall events like others do because my thinking was that hosed. Like, damaging other people's lives is a personal thing requiring personal amends, not public ones. No one really cares or enjoys it if you make a huge affair of it, and if you do, it smacks more of you trying to use the power of public knowledge to force someone to forgive you, which is counter-productive and pretty nasty.
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May 12, 2016 18:44
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Great White Hope posted:It also helps that Mark Henry had a really short (but really fun) run as a dominant babyface that was cut short for no goddamn reason (like lots of 'oh, we got bored, you're a nobody again' things that happen to nearly everyone) a year earlier, so Henry's Hall Of Pain run felt like seeing a guy who had worked so hard, been around so long, and had improved so much finally getting something he so justly deserved. His runs get cut short because he gets hurt constantly.
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May 12, 2016 18:47
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MassRafTer posted:Vince didn't talk to the cops for 6 weeks so the whole "Vince brought a suitcase full of money and had him act like a savage" thing is pretty obviously untrue. Did he threaten to cook the cops' dogs?
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May 12, 2016 19:05
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Gonzo McFee posted:Andre the Giant Vs Stan Hanson is the greatest of all time. Stan Hansen-Hogan 1990 too.
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May 12, 2016 19:08
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I remember one time Mark Henry rolled up a frying pan like it was a newspaper. I was impressed.
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May 12, 2016 19:18
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Depending on if you consider Honma a hoss or not, Honma/Ishii from Invasion Attack 2015 was loving incredible. Two tough bastards beating the piss out of each other. Also: question. Was the last time we saw Mark Henry on tv when he took Truth's pizza offering to Goldust?
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May 12, 2016 19:26
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Ktik posted:One year he entered a competition spur the moment, maybe one of the Arnold ones, and destroyed everyone. WWE didn't even mention it or push him afterwards, instead let him do nothing for months. It wasn't spur of the moment since he had about a month and change to train, but he was still at a disadvantage since he had years of wrestling injuries/wear and tear and only that small amount of time to train for a strongman competition designed to put the regular strongmen out of their comfort zone. Had Henry gone into strongman instead of wrestling he could have been a legend there, he's an absolute physical freak. But money in strongman is a fraction of what he's made in wrestling, so it's hard to say that Henry made the wrong choice.
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May 12, 2016 19:39
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Tweak posted:is this really all? Like he certainly should have included that considering his partner, and since they went over stuff like Angle's addiction problems, Lesnar's homophobia, plus that awful Trish Stratus segment (that appeared to give Jo a panic attack). However it seems a bit much to call into question everything else he's said just because he didn't bring up that SCSA beat Debra, unless there is more (which there could be, I'm just speaking anecdotally). It's a little weird to level that as a charge considering it's a podcast specifically aimed at potential new fans with a cohost that is getting into wrestling and clearly feels strongly about some of these issues. It's not necessarily better to mislead her, but I mean if you look at the episode list there's a lot of people with severe issues and I think he's probably making some hard choices on what to avoid mentioning. Pretty hard to avoid Hogan's issues, or Angle's addiction problems, given how relatively high profile they were. Nobody here is going to let it go that he's leaving things out but I think it's a wise move given the circumstances (Jo says "gently caress it, these people are all disgusting and I'm gone")
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May 12, 2016 20:17
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I'm stronger than mark henry
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May 12, 2016 21:22
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Prop Wash posted:It's a little weird to level that as a charge considering it's a podcast specifically aimed at potential new fans with a cohost that is getting into wrestling and clearly feels strongly about some of these issues. It's not necessarily better to mislead her, but I mean if you look at the episode list there's a lot of people with severe issues and I think he's probably making some hard choices on what to avoid mentioning. Pretty hard to avoid Hogan's issues, or Angle's addiction problems, given how relatively high profile they were. They're gonna do a Mick Foley episode soon, so Jo's gonna be able to get at least one story about someone whose only real issue has been being mildly creepy about liking some women too much. At least he only hurt himself, and did it for love of the fans and the business.
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May 12, 2016 23:56
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Mark Henry's run got him his theme, which led to this greatness being made. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYVnhCcEa-Q
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May 13, 2016 01:27
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2td0r_kane-vs-big-show-chain-wrestling_creation Does this count as a hoss off? 
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May 13, 2016 02:48
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Captain Magic posted:This has been mentioned before and I'm pretty sure people said in response that he goes over it in his book in detail. I haven't read it though. In his book, he said: quote:Two years later [after they were married], the incident at the house happened. The police were called and it got national media attention. You can talk about it, read about it, and discuss it. I can't--legal reasons. Then we got divorced, which I can't give details on either. There is a gag order. All I can say is I truly regret the whole ordeal. So it sounds like he really is not allowed to talk about it legally because of the settlement deal they cut with Debra. That's why he never goes into it anywhere beyond just saying that was a dark time in his life that he regrets.
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May 13, 2016 04:04
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Admiral Joeslop posted:http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2td0r_kane-vs-big-show-chain-wrestling_creation It's real-time slow mo! This is amazing.
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May 13, 2016 04:28
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Lucha Underground just had a pretty disappointing hoss-off but when I think about it, most of them are. What are some all-time classic-level hoss-offs? It's become a joke over time, is painful to watch and only 3 minutes long, but for the people who watched it live, in the context of the time, Big Daddy vs Giant Haystacks was the definitive hoss-off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sDBd6-SGo4
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May 13, 2016 14:32
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A fun Mark Henry memory is that in 1996-1997 he was considered a big old failure who couldn't pick up wrestling and had zero charisma, while BRAKKUS despite being green had good presence and was working really hard
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May 13, 2016 17:44
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Tyma posted:It's become a joke over time, is painful to watch and only 3 minutes long, but for the people who watched it live, in the context of the time, Big Daddy vs Giant Haystacks was the definitive hoss-off. This is like watching two beach balls loving
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May 13, 2016 17:48
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Platypus Farm posted:This is like watching two beach balls loving and the announcer has to call one of the beach balls "daddy"
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May 13, 2016 18:46
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So I'm watching the Atlantis vs Ultimo Geurerro Mask vs Mask match and was wondering, what size is CMLL's ring? It looks massive.
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May 13, 2016 20:34
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remusclaw posted:So I'm watching the Atlantis vs Ultimo Geurerro Mask vs Mask match and was wondering, what size is CMLL's ring? It looks massive. Optical illusion as the wrestlers are so small.
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May 13, 2016 22:11
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Ah, looking it up now both are 5'8. For some reason I thought the two were bigger guys than they are.
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May 13, 2016 22:24
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Basic Chunnel posted:I'd say Samoa Joe / Kenta Kobashi but that prob doesn't count if you regard hoss-offs as a distinctly American style of wrestling. Sasaki/Kobashi and the five minute chop war
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May 14, 2016 02:53
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I miss when the Hardcore Championship became the hoss title.
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May 14, 2016 02:57
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Aubergine Mage posted:Sasaki/Kobashi and the five minute chop war This is the best answer. Though any of the Ishii/Makabe matches from the last two years of NJPW might also count? They're not traditional hosses but Jesus Christ they go at it like wild bears fighting over cubs.
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Any of the classic pre-Vince Jr. WWF matches (Patterson vs. Slaughter, etc) are like the platonic hoss offs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrV4XaCuGP4
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