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PassTheRemote posted:Was hoping it would be called Mad Max: Cursed Earth, that way we can get that Dredd sequel I want.
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david_a posted:It would be kind of interesting to get a glimpse of what's outside of Australia. Like, maybe a hyper-advanced Chinese dropship lands and a bunch of techno-goons with laserguns spill out. A hyper-advanced 747 emergency-lands in the desert. The passengers' iPhones can't get signal and they groan in unison. "loving Australia," they say. "This is the last time I fly loving Qantas."
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May 11, 2016 19:27
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david_a posted:It would be kind of interesting to get a glimpse of what's outside of Australia. Like, maybe a hyper-advanced Chinese dropship lands and a bunch of techno-goons with laserguns spill out. That's a poo poo idea.
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May 12, 2016 11:34
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Gargamel Gibson posted:That's a poo poo idea.  Especially since, you know, the only thing that implies they're in Australia, and not anywhere is the accent, and the side of the car that the steering wheel is on (although I noticed it switched for Fury Road)
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May 12, 2016 11:58
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Gargamel Gibson posted:That's a poo poo idea. Iron Crowned posted:Especially since, you know, the only thing that implies they're in Australia, and not anywhere is the accent, and the side of the car that the steering wheel is on (although I noticed it switched for Fury Road)
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May 12, 2016 13:52
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Yeah no that sounds terrible Even jokingly
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May 12, 2016 14:57
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Iron Crowned posted:Especially since, you know, the only thing that implies they're in Australia, and not anywhere is the accent, and the side of the car that the steering wheel is on (although I noticed it switched for Fury Road)
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May 12, 2016 17:14
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Gargamel Gibson posted:That's a poo poo idea. I agree but here's a fun mental exercise: what if George Miller himself told you that's what he wanted to do? After fury road I think I'd be down for anything he wants to try.
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May 12, 2016 17:19
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MMAgCh posted:And the brief appearance of the Sydney Opera House at the end of Beyond Thunderdome, of course. And the boomerang the Feral Kid throws.
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May 12, 2016 17:19
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Why cookie Rocket posted:what if George Miller himself told you that's what he wanted to do? After fury road I think I'd be down for anything he wants to try. What if James Cameron told you he wanted to do a movie about blue aliens? After Titanic I think you'd give him just about all the money he wanted and expect a good film.
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May 12, 2016 18:35
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M_Gargantua posted:What if James Cameron told you he wanted to do a movie about blue aliens? After Titanic I think you'd give him just about all the money he wanted And that'd be the right decision because Avatar made, like, three billion dollars.
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May 12, 2016 18:40
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M_Gargantua posted:What if James Cameron told you he wanted to do a movie about blue aliens? After Titanic I think you'd give him just about all the money he wanted and expect a good film. I would have said "James Cameron, director of Aliens, The Terminator, and The Abyss, wants to direct another big-budget sci-fi blockbuster? Sign me the gently caress up" Seriously, was the blue aliens thing really that much of a problem for you? Right away the blue alien thing was a red flag for you?
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May 12, 2016 18:43
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The blue alien thing wasn't an issue because it was blue. Just because it turned out to be a poor movie to me.
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May 12, 2016 18:57
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M_Gargantua posted:The blue alien thing wasn't an issue because it was blue. Just because it turned out to be a poor movie to me. So because one time James Cameron made a bad movie, that means Miller will? Its just hard to parse the point you're trying to make, you seem to be saying that you can hear an idea beforehand and decide whether its going to end up being a good movie or not. You compared one idea that you think its stupid to the idea of a movie about blue aliens.
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May 12, 2016 18:58
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My dumb jokes were just re-iterating points made earlier in the thread about not knowing the state of the rest of the world. From the first two movies it's clear that the desert areas decayed into anarchy before the cities, so I don't think it's a stretch that they would recover later too (assuming all the cities weren't nuked). It might be too much of hokey twist to show that the rest of the world has recovered nicely (or never degenerated in the first place) while Australia is off doing their own thing, but maybe Miller could do something interesting with it.
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May 12, 2016 20:22
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Expanded universes are invariably poo poo., just stay in Australia.
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May 12, 2016 21:32
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Basebf555 posted:So because one time James Cameron made a bad movie, that means Miller will? My point is that as much as I love Miller and Fury Road there is no guarantee that giving him carte blanche will result in a good movie. Hence the avatar reference. Sure Fury Road 2 might make $800M but there is every posibility that us fans of Fury Road will be incredibly disappointed. Maybe the reason will be corporate meddling, or weird director vision, bad marketing, or just us getting our expectations too high. James Cameron and Avatar. George Lucas and the prequels. Etc. Throwing money at a famous director is profitable. But just because they have done good movies doesn't guarantee they'll keep making good movies.
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May 12, 2016 21:59
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Boy I wish I had never asked that very silly hypothetical question.
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I'm still confused as to exactly how producing Avatar was a mistake from the studio's perspective.
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May 12, 2016 22:07
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M_Gargantua posted:My point is that as much as I love Miller and Fury Road there is no guarantee that giving him carte blanche will result in a good movie. Hence the avatar reference. Sure Fury Road 2 might make $800M but there is every posibility that us fans of Fury Road will be incredibly disappointed. Maybe the reason will be corporate meddling, or weird director vision, bad marketing, or just us getting our expectations too high. Sure, maybe Fury Road 2 would be a disappointment, regardless of how much creative control Miller has. So that's your point? I'm not sure why you felt the need to make that point. If George Miller thought an idea was good but forums poster M_Gargantua thought it was dumb, my money would be on Miller.
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May 12, 2016 22:25
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M_Gargantua posted:My point is that as much as I love Miller and Fury Road there is no guarantee that giving him carte blanche will result in a good movie. Hence the avatar reference. James Cameron, when left to his own devices, has always made horrible bloated messes. The director's cut of Aliens is stunningly mediocre, whereas Ray Lovejoy's theatrical cut is an absolute masterpiece of pacing.
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May 12, 2016 23:55
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MrL_JaKiri posted:James Cameron, when left to his own devices, has always made horrible bloated messes. The director's cut of Aliens is stunningly mediocre, whereas Ray Lovejoy's theatrical cut is an absolute masterpiece of pacing.
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May 13, 2016 00:06
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david_a posted:On which of his movies would you say he was "left to his own devices?" I don't entirely agree but the guy gave you an example right there
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May 13, 2016 01:00
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James Cameron is one of the most notorious dictators in movie history. He's been "left to his own devices" probably as much as any director you can name outside of Kubrick, and in that time he produced like five of the best scifi/action movies of all-time. Even if we go with the premise that Avatar and the Aliens Directors Cut are bad, Cameron was left to his own devices and made Terminator, T2, The Abyss, and True Lies.
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May 13, 2016 01:09
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Basebf555 posted:James Cameron is one of the most notorious dictators in movie history. He's been "left to his own devices" probably as much as any director you can name outside of Kubrick, and in that time he produced like five of the best scifi/action movies of all-time. Even if we go with the premise that Avatar and the Aliens Directors Cut are bad, Cameron was left to his own devices and made Terminator, T2, The Abyss, and True Lies.
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May 13, 2016 01:22
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david_a posted:I was trying to understand where MrL_JaKiri was drawing the line with that statement. Editing? He does not have an editing credit on T1, T2, or The Abyss, for example. The ones he does have credits may be argued as the bloated ones - True Lies, Titanic, Avatar (and Strange Days, which he didn't direct but does seem way too long for what it was). I think editing is something any director of Cameron's status and personality would always be heavily involved in. I'm not sure the credit really matters one way or the other.
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May 13, 2016 01:27
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moths posted:I'm still confused as to exactly how producing Avatar was a mistake from the studio's perspective. Publicly and loudly proclaiming how much Avatar sucked every time it's brought up in conversation is the best way to show off how unique and refined your media tastes are nowadays. See also, Prometheus.
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May 13, 2016 01:41
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george miller can't make a bad movie, fyi
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:Publicly and loudly proclaiming how much Avatar sucked every time it's brought up in conversation is the best way to show off how unique and refined your media tastes are nowadays. "If I was in a room with Avatar, Prometheus, and Toby, and I had gun with two bullets, I would shoot Toby twice" - Michael Scott - snak
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MrL_JaKiri posted:James Cameron, when left to his own devices, has always made horrible bloated messes. The director's cut of Aliens is stunningly mediocre, whereas Ray Lovejoy's theatrical cut is an absolute masterpiece of pacing. What about Terminator? Or is that a "broken clock twice a day" thing in your opinion? Also, hi Jakiri, long time no see.
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May 13, 2016 06:03
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M_Gargantua posted:My point is that as much as I love Miller and Fury Road there is no guarantee that giving him carte blanche will result in a good movie. Hence the avatar reference. The following would be better examples (and Avatar is a good one): the Star Wars prequels The Matrix sequels Spike TV Ren and Stimpy
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May 13, 2016 06:07
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Damnit I was reading carte blanche as Cate Blanchett and got excited there for a bit.
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May 13, 2016 06:12
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VideoTapir posted:Spike TV Ren and Stimpy drat man trigger warning that poo poo
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May 13, 2016 06:41
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Why cookie Rocket posted:Boy I wish I had never asked that very silly hypothetical question. it was a good effort, it just needed a little tweaking to be gold: Max goes to space
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May 13, 2016 09:38
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I think once it got rolling Fury Road was given carte blanche. It had a reported production budget of at least 150 million I think. What would be difficult to replicate is the 10 years or so of pre-production of Fury Road.
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May 13, 2016 10:08
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david_a posted:no its the best. Max, Tank Girl, and Dredd team up to fight psychic androids on the moon. After their getaway spaceship is vaporized, they have to escape from Luna... with the help of Snake Plissken. From memory the war rig is a Czech truck hence the left-hand drive. I think Immortan Joe's car is too, because it's a Cadillac, and maybe the People Eater's rig? But Max's car and Nux's car are both right-hand drive. (And Max's car is of course the All-Aussie Ford Falcon). It's crazy how this movie is so well-shot I can remember which side the steering wheel is on most of these vehicles, just because of pivotal scenes. MrL_JaKiri posted:James Cameron, when left to his own devices, has always made horrible bloated messes. The director's cut of Aliens is stunningly mediocre, whereas Ray Lovejoy's theatrical cut is an absolute masterpiece of pacing. I always thought Ridley Scott was a great director until I read this in the Wikipedia article for Alien: Alien originally was to conclude with the destruction of the Nostromo while Ripley escapes in the shuttle Narcissus. However, Ridley Scott conceived of a "fourth act" to the film in which the Alien appears on the shuttle and Ripley is forced to confront it. He pitched the idea to 20th Century Fox and negotiated an increase in the budget to film the scene over several extra days.[26][54] Scott had wanted the Alien to bite off Ripley's head and then make the final log entry in her voice, but the producers vetoed this idea as they believed that the Alien had to die at the end of the film.[54] Just, again: Scott had wanted the Alien to bite off Ripley's head and then make the final log entry in her voice
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freebooter posted:I always thought Ridley Scott was a great director until I read this in the Wikipedia article for Alien:  The making of Alien is also far messier than what that snippet implies. There was no one person with a unified vision of the final movie - it was a struggle between multiple people that miraculously ended up with the best possible outcome. I don't remember how serious that idea from Scott was, but it wasn't the worst idea thrown around by far. At one point the producers were talking about Genghis loving Kahn fighting the alien! Which, by the way, wasn't actually an alien in some of the drafts, because the derelict ship was a human research vessel.
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david_a posted:What you're describing is not direction, though Whenever I hear things like this, it's absolutely fascinating to me how many iconic movies started out batshit and somehow became good.
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May 13, 2016 13:33
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Paragon8 posted:I think once it got rolling Fury Road was given carte blanche. It had a reported production budget of at least 150 million I think. That 10 years is probably the pivotal point for Fury Road being so good. If it was made on time in the early 2000s, it would have had none of the actors it ended up with and inferior technology to make it with.
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david_a posted:What you're describing is not direction, though I dunno, if done well that would be bleak as poo poo, which is fitting for Alien.
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