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SaavikSpocksDaddy
Dec 22, 2012
I feel like Phantasm has aged remarkably well compared to a lot of horror films.
This past year, I saw Halloween for the first time and it was honestly underwhelming. It's probably just a film that's been copied to death.

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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Halloween seems more relevant and influential today than it ever has. We're right in the middle of a pretty significant trend in horror where there is a major focus on cinematography and overall atmosphere, something that so many of Halloween's imitators either failed at or didn't even attempt.

Speaking of which, I just watched They Look Like People. Wow, what an impressively uncomfortable movie considering almost nothing happens. You just see things going down a certain road and it seems like its going to be a very very hosed up road.

Basebf555 fucked around with this message at 01:14 on May 13, 2016

anime tupac
Oct 25, 2010

stick your chest out, keep your head up, and handle it

Basebf555 posted:

Speaking of which, I just watched They Look Like People. Wow, what an impressively uncomfortable movie considering almost nothing happens. You just see things going down a certain road and it seems like its going to be a very very hosed up road.

Came here to post about They Look Like People. I'd compare it a little bit to Creep in tone and general feeling but I liked it a lot more. What little detail we see of Christian's life is 100% spot-on for some twentysomething techbro trying to use MRA skills and internet how-tos to solve his problems, and I honestly don't mean that in an insulting way; I think it made him absolutely believable and familiar. Seeing him look up how to help a friend in need at wikihow, and seeing what was written on the notes he dropped, and realizing the source of the inspirational crap he'd been listening to the whole time--those were all great touches. I mean, you feel for Wyatt too, but I think that in movies like this (as in real life) you feel for the people who have to deal with seeing poo poo like this happen to their friends, more than you feel for the sick friends themselves, who are completely gone to some place you can no longer empathize with.

Anyway:
-I was basically riveted after the halfway mark or so
-The first 70 seconds alone sold me on watching the rest
-I have no idea why Netflix predicted I'd rate this a 1 because it's a solid 4/5 for me

try the new taco place
Jan 4, 2004

hey mister... can u play drums while I sing and play plastic guitar???
My body is ready.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

InfiniteZero posted:

Screenshots of the restoration look like they heavily applied DNR so as you suggested, you can probably see them quite easily in 4k.

Restoration screenshot:


I've watched the film many times, including a couple times with the commentary on (and coscarelli is really good at commentary, for the record) and I'd say the only "bad" effect actually happens immediately after this shot, with the blood shooting out the other end of the "sphere". I use scare-quotes because the rig to make it spray out blood like a fountain looks less like a metal ball and more like a big grey-painted lump. It's atrocious, and one of the few truly bad effects in the entire series. Now if only part five would hit the shelves...

Also, last night I finally watched Baskin based on all the hooting and hollaring of this thread, though I avoided any spoilers in advance, or even like, any word on the plot whatsoever. I still think I was built up too much by the hype. The film promises much and delivers very little besides feeling like full on torture porn. Any and all plot threads are completely ignored by the end, and it infuriates me completely. Sorry thread, I didn't like it.

Pingiivi
Mar 26, 2010

Straight into the iris!

Pet Rock Band posted:

My body is ready.



After watching all of these check out the Crystal Lake Memories documentary. It's really good.

Gaz2k21
Sep 1, 2006

MEGALA---WHO??!!??
if he does that it'd going to be a looooooooooooooooooooooooong day


but yeah check out crystal lake memories (But maybe take a nap after all the Friday films before you do)

Glamorama26
Sep 14, 2011

All it comes down to is this: I feel like shit, but look great.

Pet Rock Band posted:

My body is ready.



Do you have beer?

My DVDS are in storage so I only have access to the bluray boxset they released which is only the rated cuts. Sigh.

2 is the best ya know.

Wilhelm Scream
Apr 1, 2008

VI is the best, Jason Lives owns.

Gonna try this as well, I can't remember ever getting past either Part VII or VIII though.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
Guys I just want to say that The Editor is the dopest fuckin' movie.

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
Dead Ringer

Wilhelm Scream posted:

VI is the best, Jason Lives owns.

This guy knows what he's talking about.


And I'll also recommend Crystal Lake Memories. I just rewatched it and it's fun.

My favorite anecdotes are the people who play cops and for some reason can't operate motor vehicles.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Choco1980 posted:

Also, last night I finally watched Baskin based on all the hooting and hollaring of this thread, though I avoided any spoilers in advance, or even like, any word on the plot whatsoever. I still think I was built up too much by the hype. The film promises much and delivers very little besides feeling like full on torture porn. Any and all plot threads are completely ignored by the end, and it infuriates me completely. Sorry thread, I didn't like it.

Eh, at this point there's been enough people that share your opinion I'd say there's no real consensus on it.

I need to watch it again to really know if I agree with you that plot threads were dropped. I think a lot of what happens in the beginning and the dialogue between the main character and his mentor in the diner is potentially relevant to what happens towards the end. It was all very cryptic.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

SubG posted:

But Phantasm was very much a film that was nevertheless on the radar of the average person who had any interest in the genre. In a way that didn't continue to be true.

I'm not sure if I understand how you're making this conclusion if you're not taking it appearing in places like Rue Morgue and Fango and all of the sequels and DVD releases as evidence of it still being relevant to genre fans.

I'll certainly agree that it isn't something that stayed as popular as Halloween or F13 or those franchises. I don't think it was rejected or forgotten by fans or anything like that though.

InfiniteZero fucked around with this message at 15:50 on May 13, 2016

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

New York
Ice Cream
TV
Travel
~Good Times~

SaavikSpocksDaddy posted:

This past year, I saw Halloween for the first time and it was honestly underwhelming. It's probably just a film that's been copied to death.

I'll offer a counterpoint and say that I first saw Halloween in late 2014 and that's what broke my dumb "I don't like horror" mindset, and got me into the genre. It's been copied and imitated endlessly, but it's such a well-crafted film that its imitators can't touch it.

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"

Pet Rock Band posted:

My body is ready.



Smh at not having part 3 in GLORIOUS 3D

Glamorama26 posted:

2 is the best ya know.

Took me a long time to realize this is the absolute truth. I think I'm the only one who doesn't hate 5, though.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Coffee And Pie posted:

Smh at not having part 3 in GLORIOUS 3D


Took me a long time to realize this is the absolute truth. I think I'm the only one who doesn't hate 5, though.

5 is as watchable as any of the other C-tier ones (part 3, part 8, honestly probably part 1 falls under that tier too)

Splint Chesthair
Dec 27, 2004


Pet Rock Band posted:

My body is ready.



I think the percentage of Jason X DVDs in 2016 that DON'T have a GameStop Used price sticker on them has to be under 25 percent, right?

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

5 is as watchable as any of the other C-tier ones (part 3, part 8, honestly probably part 1 falls under that tier too)

I love part 5, but a large part of that is due to a crush on Debi Sue Voorhees. That and the fact that I'm pretty sure it was the first one I caught theatrically in its original release.

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
Dead Ringer

X-Ray Pecs posted:

I'll offer a counterpoint and say that I first saw Halloween in late 2014 and that's what broke my dumb "I don't like horror" mindset, and got me into the genre. It's been copied and imitated endlessly, but it's such a well-crafted film that its imitators can't touch it.

I didn't care for Halloween when I first saw it, and liked Halloween II more because it was more in-line with the other slashers I was watching (brutal kills, etc).

But over time, I've watched Halloween more and more because of, like you said, how well-crafted it is. Michael stalking Laurie in the day time, where you just occasionally get a glimpse of him, sets a more suspenseful atmosphere than a lot of other slashers.

The only problem is I think I prefer the first 30 minutes more than I do the last 30 minutes, kind of a reverse slasher.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Jason Lives is the best Friday the 13th movie because its the one where they fully embrace the ridiculousness of Jason. The gothic style is a major upgrade as far as I'm concerned.

Its probably the one I'll be watching tonight.

Basebf555 fucked around with this message at 16:45 on May 13, 2016

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

InfiniteZero posted:

I love part 5, but a large part of that is due to a crush on Debi Sue Voorhees. That and the fact that I'm pretty sure it was the first one I caught theatrically in its original release.

She's easily the best thing about the movie, yeah.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice
Obligatory Final Chapter argument:

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
That gif doesn't even do it justice. You gotta see his moves from beginning to end to fully appreciate them.

Wilhelm Scream
Apr 1, 2008

IV is great as well and I have a soft spot for V and VIII but none are as good as VI.

Hell, I even love Jason Goes to Hell.

WescottF1
Oct 21, 2000
Forums Veteran
At least with the first 6 installments, I find I like the even numbered ones a lot more than the odd numbered.

try the new taco place
Jan 4, 2004

hey mister... can u play drums while I sing and play plastic guitar???
I watched 1, 3, 4, and 6. I'm probably going - 8, Freddy, and remake later this afternoon.

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


What Friday the 13th movie should I watch? Jason in space is pretty tempting because that holodeck scene is still one of the funniest things I've ever seen in a movie.

While I'm here id just like to reiterate my love for Freddy vs Jason. What a wonderfully fun and silly movie that was

lizardman
Jun 30, 2007

by R. Guyovich
Reiterating what I mentioned a few months back: time has been good to the first Friday the 13th. There are so many wannabe indie horror movies that would kill for its aesthetic, and modern pacing for movies in general these days makes the OG Friday feel like a deliberate, patient thriller in comparison. It took a LONG time, but I think we can finally call Friday the 13th a legitimately... good... movie.

I have a soft spot for A New Beginning, too. It's so delightfully trashy. It was the first Friday the 13th movie I saw as a kid, too, so the opening scene with Corey Feldman's dream about finding Jason alive in his grave was astonishingly appropriate and scared the poo poo out of me. I also kind of like the score to this one.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
FEEL FREE TO DISREGARD THIS POST

It is guaranteed to be lazy, ignorant, and/or uninformed.
I feel like 6 is the best because you've got the fantastic end sequence with the lake on fire plus all of the myth building surrounding it and Jason as a undead monster.

I'm also really fond of the 2nd one.

edit:

Original first Friday the 13th is also incredible

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Oh gently caress.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76yBTNDB6vU

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

InfiniteZero posted:

I'm not sure if I understand how you're making this conclusion if you're not taking it appearing in places like Rue Morgue and Fango and all of the sequels and DVD releases as evidence of it still being relevant to genre fans.
The same way you do it for any film. Like Jean-Pierre Melville was a big director that showed up on everyone's top-whatever lists. Then for a long time his films were mostly unavailable and they started to drop of people's lists. Then Criterion released a bunch of them. Now they're showing up on everyone's lists again. This suggests that availability on e.g. home video formats affected Melville's position in the informal canon (or whatever you want to call it).

Max Ophüls was a big director that showed up on everyone's top-whatever lists. His films became generally unavailable and they stopped being discussed as much. Then Criterion released a bunch of them. But there really hasn't been a huge resurgence of interest in Ophüls the way there was in Melville.

If your point is that it's hard to plot a graph of this poo poo because it's easy to track DVD/blu/streaming availability but it's hard to track how large works loom in discussion of film in general...well, yeah. But I still think there's something there that's worth noticing.

InfiniteZero posted:

I'll certainly agree that it isn't something that stayed as popular as Halloween or F13 or those franchises. I don't think it was rejected or forgotten by fans or anything like that though.
I don't think it was rejected or forgotten by fans either.

sticklefifer
Nov 11, 2003

by VideoGames
I'm not sure I understood the ending of The Canal. I understood that he had a psychotic break when he killed his wife that caused him to not remember it (and then later his coworker), but then at the very end with his son, it seemed like the ghosts were also real? So did they make him kill both women? Or just one of them? Or none of them? Or were they not real and the kid was just insane too? My best guess is that the ghosts latch onto killers and make them kill again, but then it's awfully coincidental because there was a pattern with the occupants. I also thought maybe the real estate woman was in on it since she lied to the tenants about the house's past and needed to fill it as quickly as possible after, though they didn't go much further into that. Interesting though, some good brooding tension and sort of a Babadook-meets-Sinister feel to it.

sticklefifer fucked around with this message at 08:39 on May 14, 2016

Parachute
May 18, 2003

Looks fun!

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.


Man, there is a gigantic spoiler in this trailer.

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


sticklefifer posted:

I'm not sure I understood the ending of The Canal. I understood that he had a psychotic break when he killed his wife that caused him to not remember it (and then later his coworker), but then at the very end with his son, it seemed like the ghosts were also real? So did they make him kill both women? Or just one of them? Or none of them? Or were they not real and the kid was just insane too? My best guess is that the ghosts latch onto killers and make them kill again, but then it's awfully coincidental because there was a pattern with the occupants. I also thought maybe the real estate woman was in on it since she lied to the tenants about the house's past and needed to fill it as quickly as possible after, though they didn't go much further into that. Interesting though, some good brooding tension and sort of a Babadook-meets-Sinister feel to it.

I haven't seen the film since it came out but the ghosts were unambiguously real, the main character was "possessed" and murdered both his wife and his friend. He wasn't a killer before the ghosts took control and made them kill. The kid kills himself at the end because the ghost of his dad (or maybe just a ghost in the house impersonating his dad) tells him he has to kill himself to join him, not because he's insane

edit:

Ehud posted:

Man, there is a gigantic spoiler in this trailer.
whoah yeah
at first I thought you were talking about the dude getting shot, which seemed pretty obvious, but I could of done without knowing about the people chained up in the basement

Tolkien minority fucked around with this message at 17:47 on May 14, 2016

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.

Jane Levy is the best. I'm in.

Spatulater bro!
Aug 19, 2003

Punch! Punch! Punch!


Jesus, I feel like I just watched the whole loving movie. God I hate trailers.

Y
Sep 29, 2004

it's time to step up

Profondo Rosso posted:

I haven't seen the film since it came out but the ghosts were unambiguously real, the main character was "possessed" and murdered both his wife and his friend. He wasn't a killer before the ghosts took control and made them kill. The kid kills himself at the end because the ghost of his dad (or maybe just a ghost in the house impersonating his dad) tells him he has to kill himself to join him, not because he's insane

Conversely, the ghosts are never clearly shown to be "real". Everything that happens in the movie can be explained as the result of normal traumas causing breaks in reality - the guy begins to see "ghosts" after his wife cheats on him, the son hears a "ghost" after both his mother and father die gruesome deaths. Nothing supernatural happens, and we are shown that when the father sees a "ghost" in the footage, his friend sees nothing, and this discontinuity causes him to snap again.

EDIT: Also whether the ghosts are "real" isn't that important imo.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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caiman posted:

Jesus, I feel like I just watched the whole loving movie. God I hate trailers.

Just watch it once and forget about it until the film comes out.

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Yaws
Oct 23, 2013

My friend is raving about Possession. What'd you guys think of it?

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