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Gamerofthegame posted:I got to forge for the first time thanks to my turtle shell buddy! Hooray! Trap/obstacle rooms are where I lose easily like 50% of my health in a given run. You start to "figure them out" though, that room in particular is one I don't get hit in very often any more. I'm starting a Gungeon petting zoo. 
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That's a hella shifty pig, you should probably not turn your back to it
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frozenpeas posted:Any tips for avoiding Gatling Gull's chaingun? Bullet king and the twins are easy but he always seems to pop a bullet out exactly where you're trying to run to and it always messes me up. I've found the best way to dodge is to maintain your distance and NEVER dodge roll. If you step far enough back you can walk between bullets. Rolling always seems to cause him to change angle and line up a bullet with me. Nevvy Z posted:I don't get how you can post on an internet discussion forum for 11 years and have such bad reading comprehension. I completely understood that you're bad at the game and want it to be easier. Just busting your balls.
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May 13, 2016 19:41
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May 13, 2016 19:47
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Lovely Senorita posted:the Frost Giant is a horrible gun 
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HenryEx posted:That's a hella shifty pig, you should probably not turn your back to it that pig is a HERO!
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May 13, 2016 21:01
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Each Master Round should be some kind of small buff to your other stats, like damage/fire rate/reload speed. Those are actually good, and make more sense than getting a health up for not losing any health.
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Gamerofthegame posted:I got to forge for the first time thanks to my turtle shell buddy! Hooray! The hammer is a part of a gun, the Gungeon is just bad at realizing context.
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May 13, 2016 21:40
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Scattershot is actually really good vs bosses, I don't know why everyone complains about it.
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TaurusTorus posted:Each Master Round should be some kind of small buff to your other stats, like damage/fire rate/reload speed. Those are actually good, and make more sense than getting a health up for not losing any health. Each master round should raise your ammunition cap by 10%, raise Coolness a bit, and very slightly weight enemy spawns towards tougher enemy types. So someone who's only good enough to flawless a boss or two won't notice any difference in spawns but will certainly appreciate the boosted ammo storage, while a supernerd who does a Clone run and aces every boss will be a loving action hero with bottomless ammo bandoliers but will also be facing a raging clusterfuck of elite bullet kin in every room (resulting in more money to keep that sweet rampage going).
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I have an inkling that the gun game mode might not be thought out very well like if you get a cursed gun in the rotation, the curse won't decrease afterwards i just had to fight the dragun with the lord of the jammed on my rear end because the game just COULD NOT STOP giving me the unicorn horn again and again
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Angry Diplomat posted:Each master round should raise your ammunition cap by 10%, raise Coolness a bit, and very slightly weight enemy spawns towards tougher enemy types. So someone who's only good enough to flawless a boss or two won't notice any difference in spawns but will certainly appreciate the boosted ammo storage, while a supernerd who does a Clone run and aces every boss will be a loving action hero with bottomless ammo bandoliers but will also be facing a raging clusterfuck of elite bullet kin in every room (resulting in more money to keep that sweet rampage going). Make each master round effectively be a cursed Magic Sweet IMO
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HenryEx posted:I have an inkling that the gun game mode might not be thought out very well it takes a very small amount of time to come up with conceptual game modes and a very long to balance and iron out every possible glitch and issue in them. im fine with side modes being fun for a few tries but not fleshed out enough to really stand up to scrutiny as long as the primary game mode is fully functional. hopefully more npcs that allow you to take random conditional paths are added in the future
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Lovely Senorita posted:the Frost Giant is a horrible gun I think you got the frost giant confused with the phoenix.
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The round is a reward for doing well and learning a particular boss. It doesn't need to be something that has a penalty attached to it
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May 13, 2016 23:20
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Gamerofthegame posted:The round is a reward for doing well and learning a particular boss. It doesn't need to be something that has a penalty attached to it I agree that curse would be a Very Bad thing to put on master rounds, but I think subtly tweaking the spawns upward would work out to a wash since it would pay off in the form of additional money with which to buy additional guns with which to enjoy your additional ammo storage. vvv I did not know this! vvv Angry Diplomat fucked around with this message at 00:06 on May 14, 2016 |
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Not much you can do without turning the enemies jammed, since every room has a fixed enemy layout
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HenryEx posted:Not much you can do without turning the enemies jammed, since every room has a fixed enemy layout increased chance to spawn gun fairies
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If you can't get one or two master rounds you're probably not quite ready or don't have the items and weapons for the Dragun yet anyways. I think the Master Rounds are fine as is, just good enough to be useful but not so good that they destroy the learning curve. To return to bitching mode, I killed the Wallmonger and lost my loving TV because his fat rear end died on it. FIX UR BUG DODGE ROLL
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Woo beat Dragun for the first time after 28 hours! The BFG kind of trivialised the final floor and then The Sling / Eye of the Beholder made short work of him. Are there any unlocks I should be working towards ASAP?
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Two runs after getting the Shambling Round hunting quest, I have a whopping 1 Shambling Round seen doing full clears of the third floor both times  frozenpeas posted:Woo beat Dragun for the first time after 28 hours! I'd focus on the Ox and Cadence unlocks, although make a detour to the Military Surplus Orc for Double Vision and C0mm4ndo at least if you don't already have them. I think the Professor Goopton items are probably the worst as a whole, but Gundromeda Strain/Abyssal Tentacle/The Membrane are all really good at the top.
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Use the cheat engine script for the monster kills posted a few pages ago. Shambling rounds are the absolute worst.
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Oh wow, didn't realise you could unlock items from the orc haha!
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Took me only 70 hours of gameplay to find the map man on the 5th floor. Why is this a thing. edit: for reference, floor 1-4 were mapped 50 hours ago
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HenryEx posted:Took me only 70 hours of gameplay to find the map man on the 5th floor. Why is this a thing. I have 100+ hours in this game, and I have seen the map dude exactly once on floor 1, and that was before the patch that fixed that achievement. Feels Bad Man
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After mainly playing the Pilot, I couldn't believe how much more of an easier time the Marine has during the early game. I think the Pilot snowballs a bit easier due to lower shop costs and inherent 2nd item slot though? I have yet to ever touch the Convict or Ranger.
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Can I just say that the Bullet Borer + Quickdraw is a perfect Dragun killer.
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Hunter is awesome. The main pistol only holds 6 shots, so you need to reload all the time, but it's enough to kill 2 bullet kin on floor 1 per reload. Accurate enough from mid-range to also reliably get the 2 kills per clip. Has a crossbow that can kill the 1st floor boss in usually sub-40 shots, which is great to insulate you from crappy weapon drops, and also clears rooms like it's nothing. Plus, chance for additional loot every room. Convict is eh. The photo only triggers on getting hit, which you want to avoid, and it's not even damage that works passively like on a Heart of Ice or a Honeycomb, you still gotta shoot and hit an enemy to get anything out of it. The sawed off is pretty bad, and drops off in effectiveness as early as floor 2. Basic pistol is nice and can be fired real quickly, but has even less shots than the Hunter's. The Pilot is pretty much the worst of the characters, i feel, solely owed to his atrocious gun. What good is your 8 shot weapon when you'll only hit 3 of them? It's pretty much Hunter/Marine > Convict > Pilot
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Metrohunter posted:After mainly playing the Pilot, I couldn't believe how much more of an easier time the Marine has during the early game. I think the Pilot snowballs a bit easier due to lower shop costs and inherent 2nd item slot though? I have yet to ever touch the Convict or Ranger. Pilot is the most RNG dependent dude, what with his pick lock skill being a 50/50 chance and, of course, the money and second slot potentially not even coming up at all. Marine's main thing is accuracy, so he's more the baseline and useful through the entire run. Convict and Ranger both start with decent weapons that can deal with the bosses, so they have an easier time early but get no real favors later on. Edit: I somehow got 5 keys out of the first floor and then promptly died to a thousand gently caress ups on the Oubliette, god damnit Gamerofthegame fucked around with this message at 20:32 on May 14, 2016 |
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The Pilot has a lot of hidden power that you forget about with the crappy basic pistol - more ammo per gun, whatever you get from lockpicking chests, and potentially doing the Oubliette with one key at the end of the first floor. The potential for carrying a combat use item along with something that lets you steal/cigarettes/jetpack/whatever is a cherry on top. I've been working on blessed runs to try and get Gunther, and jesus christ the game loves giving you the Plunger, that + bouncing bullets is really, really bad if you don't have poison immunity. That run went on to end in the forge with me trying to take down a jammed spectral gun nut with a staple gun.
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http://steamcommunity.com/games/311690/announcements/detail/958516424868539410 Look at the bottom section of this if you want to turn off the screen panning with the mouse cursor
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This game desperately needs an Eden character. Give 'em maybe a standard inf. ammo gun that's always the same, then +1 random gun and +1 or maybe 2 random passives/actives. I don't care if i have to pay like 3 HC for a run with it, just patch it in already
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Sure, there'll be runs where you start with the Mega Buster and the Super Hot Watch, but there'll be just as many where you start with the Ruby Bracelet and the Derringer.
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OK, am I the only one peeved that the Patriot doesn't have infinite ammo?
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I actually like the Ruby Bracelet because starting every room by hurling an exploding gun at the nearest fucker is hilarious.
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The true power of the pilot is being able to ditch the lockpick and take two active items. Doesn't necessarily happen every run, but holy poo poo it can be fun and powerful. The shop discount is pretty much straight up better than the dog and 10% more ammo is nice. Occasionally getting something out of a chest by lockpick is more the icing on top that then main event. I put the pilot as a solid #2 on the power scale.
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Is there a way to lock in my zoom level on the map between playthroughs? Scrolling out to max zoom every single play is annoying but it lets me see the entire map at once without having to drag it around and waste my time.
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HenryEx posted:This game desperately needs an Eden character. Give 'em maybe a standard inf. ammo gun that's always the same, then +1 random gun and +1 or maybe 2 random passives/actives. This game doesn't have enough passives as unique as binding of Isaac's to work that way, I think. For 3 HC per run, I think it'd work a little better to do one random passive/active but instead of a regular infinite ammo pistol give him a random d tier/brown chest gun that has infinite ammo. Low tier guns fall off quickly enough that it'd be overpowered for all of like one floor if you started with something really nice, and leaves the door open for silly stuff like running out of ammo on dragun and getting stuck trying to kill him with an infinite ammo mega douser
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Is there any way to make the camera pan towards the players' cursors in co-op just like in singleplayer? The #1 thing making coop harder than singleplayer (other than losing random items permanently when one player dies) is the fact that the camera only cares about where the players are, not where they are aiming. This means you're frequently shooting at things you can't even see on the screen, which is a pretty big problem on the bosses and bigger rooms. I want the camera to interpolate between the 2 players and their 2 aiming directions, not just the players.
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