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CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
look at that loving last name on the signature authority holy poo poo

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Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer

Ace of Baes posted:

Most rangers Ive met have been pretty chill, but then again Ive never been in ranger bat which i hear is gay as hell.

i'd say there's a big difference between an ranger bat ranger, and someone who has a ranger tab
the rangers i met and worked with on ft lewis were pretty chill, funny dudes with low tolerance for army bullshit
whereas most tabbed infantry dudes i knew were mouth breathing moto morons for the most part
anecdotal, but idgaf

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

look at that loving last name on the signature authority holy poo poo

:eyepop:

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

Tango Down!

Booblord Zagats posted:

Anyone remember Ranger Pudding Man?

:nws: Serious it's bad :nms:

That doesn't surprise me

Story?

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

Tango Down!
Countdown until my boss transfers to a BCT and can't say "shared understanding" anymore

My new boss seems like he grew up at an SEC college so I feel better

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


Mustang posted:

Nah I didn't go to RSLC, just ARC. I am in a RSTA squadron though. ARC was the priority and everyone that didn't get ARC got sent to RSLC. I liked ARC a lot, best month and a half of training I've yet to have in the Army. Biggest difference I noticed between the 2 courses is that RSLC is all dismount and surveillance focused whereas ARC tries to cover every aspect of reconnaissance. Arc was more like 50/50 dismount/mounted when I went through.

I was told that once I'm a PL to try to send high speed specialists and sergeants to RSLC and SSG's to ARC.

Seeing a majority of people that go to Ranger School get cut on push ups killed my interest in the course, considering they spent $1k+ on the packing list just to get cut within hours. I have yet to meet anyone that has finished A/IBOLC that can't complete a Ranger PT test to standard yet they still get cut in droves for push ups. The course starts with way more people than they can actually send through the course, which is loving stupid.

If I had stayed at Benning for Ranger School I would have gone to the April class. ABOLC sent nearly 50 dudes to that class, less than 10 made it past the PT test. The cadre actually apologized to them afterwards for the brutal amount of people they had to cut for that class.

I'm in a stryker BDE and not something like the 82nd so I don't think they have such a huge boner for Ranger tabs here.

Those are probably the dumbasses who go the Ranger Joe's route and buy the prepackaged duffel back of poo poo, the packing list should be mostly issued stuff. I guarantee you you will be pressured to go to ranger school and the only reason people get cut is because the class size is probably too big. Everything I hear about ranger school is that the content of the course is easy and it's mostly just a test of your endurance for the most supremely bullshit gay peak army experience.

If you plan on staying in, it's definitely a must-have for career combat arms officers (even enlisted). If not, well enjoy constantly being made to feel like a fucker by assholes until you retire/decommission/whatever ETS is called for officers. Just a forewarning. Another tip is if you have any inkling that you might want to go to it I'd go while you are a free agent because your unit will more than likely make you go through some gay as gently caress "pre-ranger" mini-ranger school which tacks on another two weeks of miserable faggotry to an already retarded process. You know, just to "make sure you are ready" for an overrated fuckfest.

Justin Tyme fucked around with this message at 03:19 on May 14, 2016

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

look at that loving last name on the signature authority holy poo poo

sooklalimakarowski


I don't even loving know where to start with that name.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
i get annoyed having to spell my last name all the time and its only 5 letters :sigh:

11b1p
Feb 5, 2008

This picture is worth 20 words or something.

Mr. Nice! posted:

sooklalimakarowski


I don't even loving know where to start with that name.

Sook Sookal Sookanahgonnaworkhereanymore

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Triggs posted:

Countdown until my boss transfers to a BCT and can't say "shared understanding" anymore

My new boss seems like he grew up at an SEC college so I feel better

So, what, he focuses on athletics at the expense of everything else?

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
I wanna see his uniform nametape.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
uhhh just call me sook :sigh:

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

sook me!? sook you!

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009
thats like someone took an indonesian and a polish name and taped em to each other

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
Sweat Baby, sweat baby
All this is reenforcing my desire to never go to ranger school that gets more the further I get from being a butterbar. Also reserves so shyeah.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
Sweat Baby, sweat baby
I just remember being a hooah in OCS and then getting out into the field and loving it and then all of a sudden not. Like don't gently caress with me for no reason.

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
It seems like it's mostly the infantry officers with huge raging ranger boners. Armor LTC's and COL's and above seem more irritated with armor LT's and CPT's identifying as scouts rather than tankers despite the fact that a solid 2/3 of 19A's won't see the inside of an Abrams after ABOLC. In my case other than familiarization/mini gunnery/driving training I have hardly any time at all in a tank. I drove an Abrams for 3 missions in ABOLC and was in a scout platoon for the other 20+ FTX missions, not to mention ARC and Advanced Situational Awareness. As cool as tanks are it would be ridiculous for me to go around claiming to be a tanker.

Fact is there are way more positions in Cav squadrons for 19A's than there are in units with tanks. And even if you are sent to a heavy brigade you still might end up as a scout.

Infantry makes such a big deal about Ranger School that IBOLC LT's that fail out are a suicide concern for their command. An OCS buddy of mine failed to answer his phone because he slept in the day after he failed out of the course and when he finally did answer his commander was all "holy poo poo man I'm glad you're alive! thought you might have killed yourself!" I've never heard of any concern for a ABOLC LT committing suicide.

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


Mustang posted:

It seems like it's mostly the infantry officers with huge raging ranger boners. Armor LTC's and COL's and above seem more irritated with armor LT's and CPT's identifying as scouts rather than tankers despite the fact that a solid 2/3 of 19A's won't see the inside of an Abrams after ABOLC. In my case other than familiarization/mini gunnery/driving training I have hardly any time at all in a tank. I drove an Abrams for 3 missions in ABOLC and was in a scout platoon for the other 20+ FTX missions, not to mention ARC and Advanced Situational Awareness. As cool as tanks are it would be ridiculous for me to go around claiming to be a tanker.

Fact is there are way more positions in Cav squadrons for 19A's than there are in units with tanks. And even if you are sent to a heavy brigade you still might end up as a scout.

Infantry makes such a big deal about Ranger School that IBOLC LT's that fail out are a suicide concern for their command. An OCS buddy of mine failed to answer his phone because he slept in the day after he failed out of the course and when he finally did answer his commander was all "holy poo poo man I'm glad you're alive! thought you might have killed yourself!" I've never heard of any concern for a ABOLC LT committing suicide.

your friend may not have died that day, but his career did

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”

White Chocolate posted:

I just remember being a hooah in OCS and then getting out into the field and loving it and then all of a sudden not. Like don't gently caress with me for no reason.

Which company were you in? I was in Delta, OCS was one giant gently caress gently caress game from beginning to end for me. Bravo and Charlie seemed to have a much easier time with the course and got privileges a lot sooner than we did. I think it's because Delta until recently was the only company left in the old barracks and being all by themselves for years resulted in an all together different experience.

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”

Justin Tyme posted:

your friend may not have died that day, but his career did

That's the case for a lot of infantry LT's then because the majority of them never get their tabs for various dumb reasons. A big chunk of my stryker leaders class was infantry LT's and only 2 had tabs.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Mr. Nice! posted:

sooklalimakarowski


I don't even loving know where to start with that name.

Dollars to donuts it's just 'Ski around the office.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
the army is retarded and im so glad ill be out of it by next weekend

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Ace of Baes posted:

the army is retarded and im so glad ill be out of it by next weekend

Jels

RichieHimself
May 27, 2004

No way dude, she looks like Gargamel.

Mustang posted:

That's the case for a lot of infantry LT's then because the majority of them never get their tabs for various dumb reasons. A big chunk of my stryker leaders class was infantry LT's and only 2 had tabs.

No tab was a huge negative for infantry NCOs in my battalion. They could only get as high as platoon sergeant before being shuttled off to S3 or brigade to finish out their days while tabbed E7s took on different platoons until a 1SG spot opened up. I think having a tab was more of a signal that you were willing to play stupid army games than anything else.

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.


Sugartime Jones

Ace of Baes posted:

the army is retarded and im so glad ill be out of it by next weekend

Feels good man

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

thats like someone took an indonesian and a polish name and taped em to each other

It's that god damned ski on the end that has me head scratching. I mean the Spanish traveled the world and added to the gene pool everywhere they went. I can't recall ever hearing of a famous polack explorer.

I was gonna say pole explorer at first, but I've known a few pole explorers in my day.

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.

Ace of Baes posted:

the army is retarded and im so glad ill be out of it by next weekend

Til then, though, get hosed

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
Sweat Baby, sweat baby

Mustang posted:

Which company were you in? I was in Delta, OCS was one giant gently caress gently caress game from beginning to end for me. Bravo and Charlie seemed to have a much easier time with the course and got privileges a lot sooner than we did. I think it's because Delta until recently was the only company left in the old barracks and being all by themselves for years resulted in an all together different experience.

Delta wasn't a company when I was there for sure(2012) I was in Bravo had to drop and re cycle for land nav to Charlie. They were pretty meh on PT tho. We never had privileges until white scarf. We were the last ones to not have privilege. HHC could literally not do anything basically stay at the compound fido.

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009

Mr. Nice! posted:

It's that god damned ski on the end that has me head scratching. I mean the Spanish traveled the world and added to the gene pool everywhere they went. I can't recall ever hearing of a famous polack explorer.

I was gonna say pole explorer at first, but I've known a few pole explorers in my day.

your mother being chief among them

manchego
Feb 16, 2007

MEANWHILE,
Mustang, sorry if I'm reading something that's just not there, but if you're spinning that getting tabbed outside of the infantry branch doesn't truly matter that much, particularly as an officer, let me save you some heartache.

Particularly as a combat arms officer, getting your tab is the single most valuable thing you can to make the army easy-mode.

You can shoot out of the box, have a platoon full of negligent-discharging mouth breathers, lose loving equipment, stab your platoon sergeant in the back, and get a DUI, but if you score a 300 and have your tab, no one is going to gently caress with you.

Don't get me wrong, ranger school seems like a pain in the dick and a bunch of gently caress gently caress games, buy if I was a new LT and hadn't yet to figured out that the army is gay (smdtfb), I'd try and do myself that favor.

Especially in this awful peace time army.

Naked Bear
Apr 15, 2007

Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!

manchego posted:

awful peace time army

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
I never said it didn't matter just that it doesn't seem nearly as important in the armor branch, especially outside of light brigades. Most of the officers in my chain of command are tabless. I still recognize that it's great to have for your career, especially an as officer.

If I decide to do 20+ years in the Army it's definitely something I'd plan on doing whether that be while I'm at my unit as a LT or back at Benning for the career course.

I quickly learned in BCT and OCS that the army is gay. On top of the gently caress gently caress games it didn't help that I left OCS and started ABOLC with a knee injury so I was already kind of bitter and cynical while my ROTC and West Point peers were all bright eyed and super motivated to do Army stuff.

Post ABOLC has been pretty good for me so far so I'm not really bitter anymore but still expect that to be tested at some point in the (likely near) future.

I don't have any plans for where my career is going at the moment anyway, the Army owns me until 2019 or 2020.

Aranan
May 21, 2007

Release the Kraken
Going TDY for a week. Is there any trick to milking the Army for as much money as I possibly can? I've got a government travel card and have been told conflicting things on how to use it--put everything on it vs put nothing on it so the Army doesn't know what you spent and thus you get the whole per diem in pay.

Hackan Slash
May 31, 2007
Hit it until it's not a problem anymore

Aranan posted:

Going TDY for a week. Is there any trick to milking the Army for as much money as I possibly can? I've got a government travel card and have been told conflicting things on how to use it--put everything on it vs put nothing on it so the Army doesn't know what you spent and thus you get the whole per diem in pay.

The only non-illegal way to get more money is to travel down the day before and travel back the day after. The JTR authorizes this if you have to start in the morning or work a full day. This will get you 2 more full per diem days. Do not do anything shady like claim mileage but carpool with other travelers.

You'll get the same per diem no matter how much you spend. Never put any per diem expenses on your travel card. Split disbursements are a pain and you don't get any CC rewards.

Put reimbursable expenses like airfare, hotel, etc on the card because people will complain if you don't.

Make sure you join all the hotel/airplane/whatever loyalty programs.

Aranan
May 21, 2007

Release the Kraken

Hackan Slash posted:

The only non-illegal way to get more money is to travel down the day before and travel back the day after. The JTR authorizes this if you have to start in the morning or work a full day. This will get you 2 more full per diem days. Do not do anything shady like claim mileage but carpool with other travelers.

You'll get the same per diem no matter how much you spend. Never put any per diem expenses on your travel card. Split disbursements are a pain and you don't get any CC rewards.

Put reimbursable expenses like airfare, hotel, etc on the card because people will complain if you don't.

Make sure you join all the hotel/airplane/whatever loyalty programs.

I'm definitely not looking to do anything illegal--I get enough green weenie as it is. Luckily, I'm already going down the day before and leaving the day after, so that's cool.

The bit about only using the travel car for hotel/air/rental car is good info. I'll keep the per-diem expenses on my own accounts.

Hackan Slash
May 31, 2007
Hit it until it's not a problem anymore

Aranan posted:

I'm definitely not looking to do anything illegal--I get enough green weenie as it is. Luckily, I'm already going down the day before and leaving the day after, so that's cool.

The bit about only using the travel car for hotel/air/rental car is good info. I'll keep the per-diem expenses on my own accounts.

One other thing I forgot to mention is that meals provided by the hotel don't count against your per diem, so you can find a place like Residence Inn that serves breakfast and dinner and save even more money. If you're a total cheapskate grab enough food to cover lunch.

If they're paying to send you somewhere that provides a meal you have to claim that against your per diem. The usual case is if they're paying to send you to a convention and it includes lunch.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

They have cut down a lot on the money you can make from TDY, it's not as fruitful as it was. I went TDay for a month, ended up with 50 extra dollars.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



The GTC is locked down pretty hard now too. It used to be good at just about any vendor (like grocery stores and Walmart) but some people discovered it worked at strip clubs so now you're limited to travel related stuff like airlines, hotels, car rentals, gas stations, and restaurants.

If you're lucky enough to get cash advance privileges and a PIN don't be a dumbass and gently caress it up even worse than it is. Also enjoy getting junk mail from Shittybank for the rest of your life.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Zeris posted:

Til then, though, get hosed

tuesday is my last day and im not even going to formation, im showing up at the final out building at like 5:30 and standing outside their doors as soon as i see people start lining up, i scheduled my appt for the other stuff as soon as they open and talked to S1 so I can sign out on leave at noon that day, ive already double checked to make sure everything i needed to clear is good, so hopefully the army cant find a way to gently caress me over for the literal 20 minutes ill be in my unit footprint for the rest of my contract

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The Rat
Aug 29, 2004

You will find no one to help you here. Beth DuClare has been dissected and placed in cryonic storage.

The morning I left on terminal leave, I got up in front of the company formation while the 1SG and PSGs were still in the office and recited this speech:

quote:

This is as my Master told it to me and now I tell it to thee.

There are a billion names of damnation! A billion kinds of things that slither and slime and defile the land and sea and wind. Each thing is a kind of sin spawned by man's evil. And that man is very sinful there are many of these damned things and their power is great.

As the purpose of all things in nature is to increase so it is with the damned. They would we joined them and so they seek to overcome us. In alien forms they assault us. In sleep they come to spread doubt and fear among us. They would corrupt our hearts and see us damned too. Trust them not nor suffer them to live.

For each alien destroyed is a soul freed from eternal bondage. Each mortal alien life extinguished is a human soul raised to glory. Thus our eternal destiny is written in the blood of the alien.

With sword and spear destroy the alien. With cannon shot and gun blast smash the alien. With laser beam and searing plasma scatter the alien to the stars. With tooth and fist and hammer blows, with axe and shell and poison-bombs, with VIRUS-CHARGE and THERMAL MINE!

KILL THEM ALL! KILL THEM ALL! KILL THEM ALL!

As my Master told it to me I now tell it to thee that thou shalt tell others in thy turn.

No regrets.

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