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Sickening posted:List buddy, negate is as good as its every going to get and you are going to like it. Has he posted anywhere? He might be a piece of poo poo but depression/ suicide are motherfuckers man Or he is pissed off/investigating and on social media blackout. suicidesteve posted:The problem seems to be that they don't want countermagic to be good, they don't want to print any good cantrips and they don't have card draw in blue anymore for some reason. You may recognize these things as all blue actually does. I'd call you cranky grandpa magic but you're really right. Zoness posted:Frank Lepore is even bad at causing magic drama can we just have a judge banning or card robbery already jeez. The NYPD may have done something other than discharge hundreds of rounds without hitting what they were shooting at when they released images of the dude who swiped the $50?70?k backpack @ Gp NY does that count? PleasantDirge fucked around with this message at 05:45 on May 14, 2016 |
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Frank Lepore is even bad at causing magic drama can we just have a judge banning or card robbery already jeez.
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# ? May 14, 2016 05:37 |
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Everyone go give Wizards your money for TSP draft, its great.
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# ? May 14, 2016 05:40 |
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TheKingofSprings posted:Remand minus the cantrip would absolutely suck. You're going down a card to blank them for a turn, it's actually probably worse than Disperse and that barely sees play already. Trying to figure how to make a 2CC counter work. 3CC definitely seems to not be doing it. What if Disperse gained Venser, Shaper Servant's "permanent or spell" wording?
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PJOmega posted:Trying to figure how to make a 2CC counter work. 3CC definitely seems to not be doing it. Dissolve was a fairly strong standard Cancel-variant
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PJOmega posted:Would Remand minus the cantrip be too powerful in Standard? What about as a sacrifice enchantment? I would heavily consider eating a roll of quarters before wanting to play a remand that does not draw you a card. PleasantDirge posted:
This is actually boring because you feel bad for the guy b/c he had power stolen until you read that he had like 3 ancestral recalls taken. Once someone has more than one hes basically a fuccboi keeping others from being able to play vintage. Someone who's holding 3+ uninsured ancestral recalls in an easily pilferable container can probably afford to lose them. (Unless he is a cool and good person who lends them out and is a patron saint of vintage magic). Zoness fucked around with this message at 06:00 on May 14, 2016 |
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Disdainful Stroke was pretty good in some matchups.
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PJOmega posted:Trying to figure how to make a 2CC counter work. In Standard or Modern? Cause like... Silumgar's Scorn is pretty good in Standard.
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Attorney at Funk posted:In Standard or Modern? Cause like... Silumgar's Scorn is pretty good in Standard. Yeah, i'm not trying to bitch, simply theorizing and looking at design space. Amateur game designer/process design style. What would be a "fair but not oppressive" variant of a spell that is seen by many to be problematic is a fun theory experiment. If people feel this is making GBS threads up the thread I'll gladly stop. Simply bored waiting for friends to show up.
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Memory Lapse too annoying?
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PJOmega posted:Yeah, i'm not trying to bitch, simply theorizing and looking at design space. Amateur game designer/process design style. What would be a "fair but not oppressive" variant of a spell that is seen by many to be problematic is a fun theory experiment. Honestly for my money the thing that'd make straight up Counterspell annoying in Modern isn't even Counterspell, it's Snapcaster. Snapcaster hamstrings the good cheap spells they can print in the same way Birthing Pod hamstrung creatures and Stoneforge Mystic equipment. I remember in INN-RTR Standard, they printed Warleader's Helix because they tested Lightning Helix and aggro decks couldn't keep up with Helix, Snap-Helix.
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Attorney at Funk posted:Honestly for my money the thing that'd make straight up Counterspell annoying in Modern isn't even Counterspell, it's Snapcaster. Snapcaster hamstrings the good cheap spells they can print in the same way Birthing Pod hamstrung creatures and Stoneforge Mystic equipment. I remember in INN-RTR Standard, they printed Warleader's Helix because they tested Lightning Helix and aggro decks couldn't keep up with Helix, Snap-Helix. ....You're worried about Mystic Snake in modern?
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suicidesteve posted:....You're worried about Mystic Snake in modern? I think that's a pretty silly comparison.
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Rinkles posted:Memory Lapse too annoying? Memory Lapse is a very similar card with a very similar power level to Remand
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Elyv posted:Memory Lapse is a very similar card with a very similar power level to Remand So too strong for standard?
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Rinkles posted:So too strong for standard? if a person thinks one of them is too strong for standard, then by extension that person should think the second one is too also, probably, at least for what eizards wants to do
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Memory Lapse seems fairly similar early on and significantly better in the lategame.
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# ? May 14, 2016 06:56 |
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It's extremely easy to cheat victories with memory lapse, which is why wotc doesn't want it back in Standard. All you have to do is fill out your deck list without them, cast it on an opponent, wait for them to put the card back in, then set your Memory Lapse on fire and call a judge. Opponent gets nailed for tampering with their deck. Easiest tournament win of your life.
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Recant UU Instant Counter target spell. It's controller may put it on top of their deck instead. Gets around some of the Timmy feelbads of countering their bomb, Spikes can get a skill test of when to make the choice, Johnny gets that weird edge case where they can counter their own card for value. I agree to the above that regarding modern the problem isn't Counterspell itself but rather Snapcaster. Oh what a world where it was Red and/or without Flash. Unfortunately that ship has long since sailed.
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PJOmega posted:Recant This is about as good as Counterspell, and the optional "downside" is such a tempo loss that it's barely even a downside. The problem is the belief that Counterspell is an interesting card, which it isn't. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 07:57 on May 14, 2016 |
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Angry Grimace posted:This is about as good as Counterspell, Optional Memory Lapse is not about as good as Counterspell. Actual Memory Lapse doesn't see Pauper play at all, where Counterspell does. In fact, Memory Lapse may say "counter target spell" on it, but it's not an actual answer to a spell - it's a 1-for-1 trade that presumably gains you mana. I don't think "Memory Lapse, but if the spell is bad the opponent isn't forced to draw it again" would be playable in anything except a Delver-style tempo deck, and I don't think they're printing any such overpowered blue one drops in the near future.
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Angry Grimace posted:This is about as good as Counterspell, and the optional "downside" is such a tempo loss that it's barely even a downside. Also Option Memory Lapse is super loving awful don't kid yourself.
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Rinkles posted:Dissolve was a fairly strong standard Cancel-variant Dredge report: it's just hilarious when it works and just a boring non game if your opponent drops a Leyline or something.
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Angry Grimace posted:Dredge report: it's just hilarious when it works and just a boring non game if your opponent drops a Leyline or something. Modern.txt
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# ? May 14, 2016 09:25 |
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Maybe there's a particularly soft meta at card kingdom tonight for FNM, but mono red was hilariously good. Had I not forgotten two sin prodder triggers on successive turns This is what happens when you have a bar attached to the store.
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Unleashing this on sweet summer Modern children is just loving priceless
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Angry Grimace posted:Unleashing this on sweet summer Modern children is just loving priceless It's what the format deserves.
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I wish he had let it resolve then let let me hit him with Rally the Peasants
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Angry Grimace posted:Unleashing this on sweet summer Modern children is just loving priceless
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Lancelot posted:What list are you working with? Sickening's from a page or two back? quote:Deck: Modern Dredge The one above is the one I used. The only difference is I'm running regular mountains because I assume the Snow-Covered ones were just for personal amusement. The color symbols are a loving lie: the deck is practically mono-colored other than sideboard enchantment hate. There's also a couple of other Grave-Troll decks people are jamming - a Travis Woo one (its far less popular because Woo) and a SaffronOlive one. The latter two aren't really classic Bridge From Below decks, they're Dredge-Vengevine decks. quote:Deck: Dredgevine #1 and then SaffronOlive's: quote:Deck: Dredgevine Saffron Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 10:30 on May 14, 2016 |
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Frank Lepore is broadcasting Hearthstone this weekend, apparently
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You should draft TTP on MTGO because you too can win drafts with piles of garbage like this: I saw a Temporal Isolation third to last pick and I almost cried. GonSmithe fucked around with this message at 14:15 on May 14, 2016 |
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Elyv posted:if a person thinks one of them is too strong for standard, then by extension that person should think the second one is too I was tired and lost track of the original conversation, i.e., this all started with discussing remand.
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# ? May 14, 2016 15:11 |
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Remand that doesn't cantrip might be niche playable in Standard if it only cost one mana instead of two.
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What if it investigated instead?
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I am fiddling about with this esper rally deck for modern. Why is hedron crab over $3? Does it actually see play outside of goofy theme decks?
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Yawgmoth posted:I am fiddling about with this esper rally deck for modern. Why is hedron crab over $3? Does it actually see play outside of goofy theme decks? 4-of in Modern mill, the best Modern deck.
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Mill prices are not affected by trivial things like power level or logic. See: Glimpse the Unthinkable.
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Yawgmoth posted:I am fiddling about with this esper rally deck for modern. Why is hedron crab over $3? Does it actually see play outside of goofy theme decks? The bulk of the demand I would guess is because Mill is a very popular casual strategy. You have cards like Glimpse the Unthinkable that are $20 for no reason other than casual appeal.
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Your latest PSA that blue Tron is horrible on the SCG stream.
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