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IPCRESS posted:Considering the delightful conditions on Nauru and Manus, I'm surprised that more people didn't take up the opportunity to be re-settled in Cambodia. It's going to get worse. Broadspectrum (formerly Transfield) operates both centres and is currently in the middle of a hostile take-over bid by Spanish multinational Ferrovial. You can't even boycott any of these oval office companies because they have fingers in so many pies and have a poo poo ton of government contracts for services unrelated to immigration.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrovial Lolie fucked around with this message at 01:29 on May 13, 2016 |
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Lolie posted:It's going to get worse. Secondary boycotts are illegal in Australia as well.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Secondary boycotts are illegal in Australia as well. how is it possible for a boycott to be illegal?
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Secondary boycotts are illegal in Australia as well. Consumers can boycott any organisation they like. It's just hard to avoid doing business with these cunts when they have the contracts to deliver infrastructure services. Ferrovial operates Sydney airport, among other things. I swear that if any state had the balls to refuse to award these fuckers contracts, I'd move there. Unfortunately, we're all indirectly supporting these companies by consuming services they provide on behalf of the federal and state governments. Until something changes, we can't shut these fuckers down by expressing our outrage either politically or economically. boom boom boom posted:how is it possible for a boycott to be illegal? They're talking about "sympathy" actions by unions. While they are illegal, the government would poo poo itself if there was any widespread industrial action on the scale of the 1970s and early 1980s. You can't prosecute everyone when you have a full scale general strike. Lolie fucked around with this message at 01:47 on May 13, 2016 |
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Lolie posted:Consumers can boycott any organisation they like. I thought Abbott managed to pass that law to stop environmentalists boycotting Harvey Norman for using wood from old growth forests?
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I thought Abbott managed to pass that law to stop environmentalists boycotting Harvey Norman for using wood from old growth forests? It's kind of a toothless tiger because it was framed as a change to competition laws and you can only apply it to certain groups - specifically, consumer and environmental groups - trying to run a campaign against an industry. http://www.treasury.gov.au/~/media/...A_combined.ashx You also can't use it to bypass the right to campaign against government actions, even if those actions are taken by private organisations acting on behalf of the government. Lolie fucked around with this message at 02:09 on May 13, 2016 |
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Lolie posted:It's kind of a toothless tiger because it was framed as a change to competition laws and you can only apply it to certain groups trying to run a campaign against an industry. Ah fair enough.
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Millions of Crows posted:How does mormonism, a "religion"founded on white supremacism and american exceptionalism and sexual slavery sell in the pacific? Or anywhere that isn't full of the white hicks? They also provide education (their education), and infuse money into the local economy. Providing opportunities they wouldn't have, otherwise. Look at BYU sports teams, lots of Pacific Islanders there who get scholarships to attend. The actual spread of the religion there kind of depends on how strong the previous religions were prior to the Mormon push. The Marianas Islands have a few Mormon churches but they're very self-contained and missionaries don't get a lot of response because the Catholics were in solid control for 400 years. In the FSM, they're making more inroads because Christianity has only been around there for the last 100 years, and no one else is making a push. Samoa and American Samoa, and maybe Tonga, are where they've made their biggest gains. I'm sure they just sell it the same way they sold it in South America, treating brown people as a lost tribe, even though they've now been genetically proven otherwise.
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The Seventh Day Adventists in Tonga are pretty funny because they consider the international date line to be in a different place. They're one of the only denominations who have church on Saturdays and they couldn't convince Tongans to go then instead of Sundays because church on Sundays was pretty ingrained in Tonga by the point they showed up. So they just redrew their world maps so that the international date line was on the other side of Tonga, thus making Sunday Saturday.
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Count Chocula posted:Australia's detention centers are a national shame, and in future generations will be looked at like slavery is looked at by Americans. They're an international shame. The nations which accept money from Australia to house them are just as culpable, as are the corporations which operate them. It would be a hell of a lot easier to do something about them if they weren't off-shore and if they weren't operated by private entities.
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I wonder if Nauru was settled by people exiled from other islands, or was it pretty decent for that sort of island when it was settled. Sorta like how colonial Australia started as a penal colony. Like if there was a common ground, maybe Australia would be really nice to them, then. Or, by making the island a jail, it's sort of a weird diminishing historical rhyme scheme.
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doctorfrog posted:I wonder if Nauru was settled by people exiled from other islands, or was it pretty decent for that sort of island when it was settled. Sorta like how colonial Australia started as a penal colony. Like if there was a common ground, maybe Australia would be really nice to them, then. Or, by making the island a jail, it's sort of a weird diminishing historical rhyme scheme. Nauru was first inhabited by Micronesians and Polynesians at least 3,000 years ago.[12] There were traditionally 12 clans or tribes on Nauru, which are represented in the 12-pointed star on the country's flag.[13] Traditionally, Nauruans traced their descent matrilineally. Inhabitants practised aquaculture: they caught juvenile ibija fish, acclimatised them to fresh water, and raised them in the Buada Lagoon, providing a reliable source of food. The other locally grown components of their diet included coconuts and pandanus fruit.[14][15] The name "Nauru" may derive from the Nauruan word Anáoero, which means "I go to the beach".[16] The British sea captain John Fearn, a whale hunter, became the first Westerner to visit Nauru in 1798, calling it "Pleasant Island".
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IPCRESS posted:Considering the delightful conditions on Nauru and Manus, I'm surprised that more people didn't take up the opportunity to be re-settled in Cambodia. If I was on Nauru or Manus, getting treated the way asylum seekers are treated, and they came and told me there was this totally awesome new scheme if I just agreed to be settled in some other country that wasn't Australia, I would seriously be afraid that it was some evil plot to legally wipe their hands of me before I got vanished and chucked into a mass grave somewhere.
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doctorfrog posted:I wonder if Nauru was settled by people exiled from other islands, or was it pretty decent for that sort of island when it was settled. Sorta like how colonial Australia started as a penal colony. Like if there was a common ground, maybe Australia would be really nice to them, then. Or, by making the island a jail, it's sort of a weird diminishing historical rhyme scheme. We've done it in at least 3 locations we used to administer for colonial reasons - Christmas Island, Nauru and Papua New Guinea. None were originally British penal colonies. Also, more info on the medivac mentioned earlier. quote:A Somali refugee and her newborn baby have been airlifted from Nauru to Brisbane in a critical condition. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-13/naura-refugee-newborn-son-airlifted-to-brisbane-hospital/7411796 Lolie fucked around with this message at 06:24 on May 13, 2016 |
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What was the point of removing the 8 month old baby if you aren't going to incinerate it ? Was it a danger to the mother ?
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oh listen to these cunts talking about how much they pretend care about 3rd world grifters cause it makes them look caring oh boo hoo rape happened on some island don't mention the raping was done by the same 3rd world grifters lest we let on telling them to gently caress off was a good call (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Fat Jesus posted:oh listen to these cunts talking about how much they pretend care about 3rd world grifters cause it makes them look caring oh boo hoo rape happened on some island don't mention the raping was done by the same 3rd world grifters lest we let on telling them to gently caress off was a good call You're the sort of person that'd be raping everything within sight if you knew you'd get away with it.
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anyway this place sounds awful, holy poo poo australia Jen X fucked around with this message at 08:04 on May 13, 2016 |
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So you get to live for free on a tropical paradise island and yyou get a monthly stipend to buy spam and gravy from the grocery store? Where do I sign up??
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The kids are so hosed http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-03/mental-health-children-detention-darwin/7137858 quote:Some of these kids are some of the most worldly and wise children, they've experienced so much in their lives already. And for many of them, they've experienced what it's like in Nauru and they're terrified," he said. In 2015 a five year old tried to kill themself http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-28/father-says-5yo-girl-attempted-suicide-in-fear-of-going-to-nauru/6355566
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I never thought of killing yourself until i was at least like 12 years old. These are some trend setting cutting edge kids we're making in these camps is what im saying
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Fat Jesus posted:oh listen to these cunts talking about how much they pretend care about 3rd world grifters cause it makes them look caring oh boo hoo rape happened on some island don't mention the raping was done by the same 3rd world grifters lest we let on telling them to gently caress off was a good call I hope you go to the toilet and get attacked by a funnel-web spider riding a blue ringed octopus carrying 8 taipans. Then I hope your door gets kicked in by an emu and a cassowary who proceed to kick you while you spasm from your venom cocktail.
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MoreLikeTen posted:what the gently caress was this thread going to be about if that guy didnt come in and drop like 50 anecdotes about it being hell island
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Vladimir Poutine posted:Papua New Guinea is another nearby island nation that hosts an Australian detention centre and has one of the most terrifying capital cities in existence. PNG is hell. The abuse of mainly women and girls is off the loving charts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_Papua_New_Guinea and they hunt and kill witches http://thediplomat.com/2014/10/papua-new-guineas-tragic-witch-hunts/ and take a shitload of money from Australia and The Asian Development Bank and nothing loving changes.
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Vicodiva posted:PNG is hell. loving colonialism, goddamn man.
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Vicodiva posted:PNG is hell. Lol what a shithole quote:While witch hunts have existed in Melanesian countries for centuries, researchers say the sadistic nature of the violence – which now often includes public sexual mutilation using hot iron rods inserted into the body unpacked robinhood fucked around with this message at 07:09 on May 15, 2016 |
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Yeah, PNG is a depressing as hell place and the capital has beaten Aleppo and Dhaka as "least livable city in the world" some years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_(disease) quote:Kuru is an incurable degenerative neurological disorder endemic to tribal regions of Papua New Guinea. It is a type of transmissible spongiform encephalopathy, caused by a prion found in humans.[1] quote:Kuru causes physiological, as well as neurological effects that ultimately lead to death. It was endemic among the Fore tribe of Papua New Guinea and was confined to the Fore population and those nearby populations with whom they intermarried. It is characterized by truncal ataxia, preceded by headaches, joint pains, and shaking of the limbs. Trembling is present in almost all patients with this transmissible spongiform encephalopathy; kuru is also known as "shiver".[4] quote:Those affected are usually people who follow the practice of family mortuary cannibalism.[6] In some parts of Papua New Guinea, bodies of those who died from kuru were dismembered to feast on the internal organs. "Often, they would feed morsels of brain to young children and elderly relatives."[6]  quote:Alpers and Lindenbaum's research conclusively demonstrated that kuru spread easily and rapidly in the Fore people due to their endocannibalistic funeral practices, in which relatives consumed the bodies of the deceased to return the "life force" of the deceased to the hamlet, a Fore societal subunit.[10] Corpses of family members were often buried for days then exhumed once the corpses were infested with maggots at which point the corpse would be dismembered and served with the maggots as a side dish.[11]
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Billmac posted:loving colonialism, goddamn man. We just took back control of Norfolk Island because they can't run themselves. Colonialism is alive and well in the 21st Century.
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quote:Alpers and Lindenbaum's research conclusively demonstrated that kuru spread easily and rapidly in the Fore people due to their endocannibalistic funeral practices, in which relatives consumed the bodies of the deceased to return the "life force" of the deceased to the hamlet, a Fore societal subunit.[10] Corpses of family members were often buried for days then exhumed once the corpses were infested with maggots at which point the corpse would be dismembered and served with the maggots as a side dish.[11] nothing quite like sitting down to a nice dinner with the family looks like grandma's invited some friends, let's make it a party
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boom boom boom posted:I think some cultures are just worse than others I'm all for understanding cultural differences up to a point, but there are some which are hosed up by any reasonable metric and shouldn't be tolerated. It would be useful to get an agreement on whether cultural relativism applies for the following rich and ancient traditions: Laws placing women as second class citizens Cannibalism Having sex with 12 year olds FGM Slavery Sati
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boom boom boom posted:I think some cultures are just worse than others Look at this edgyBroMcPoster trying to validate cannibalism and all of the other obscenely hosed up things.
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Plucky Brit posted:I'm all for understanding cultural differences up to a point, but there are some which are hosed up by any reasonable metric and shouldn't be tolerated. well, you are called a racist if you try to stop that kind of stuff
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Hogge Wild posted:stop making this thread about australian politics you retards, no one gives a poo poo, take it to dd It seems p clear to me that this thread was cunningly designed to interest everyone with Nauru and then dunk them into AusPol 2.0 before they realise what's happening. Then we'll wake up from our torpor and show that Australian government what for. (I don't mind though this is a good thread  )
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