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Solemn Sloth posted:Bonus points for you apparently having never worked or met anyone who has worked hospitality/bottle-o in your life if you think a loving register of every prohibited person is even remotely enforceable. "oh hey let me just check your photo id and punch your details into our up-to-date, well funded, national registry" *gets slipped some cash* and/or *threatened with violence* "cheers mr smith, have a nice day"
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Solemn Sloth posted:If there's one thing we've learnt it's that you can break people's addiction with the threat of jail time. Not just logistically as well. As you are well aware, refusing service to some people, even just with current policy (i.e. not selling to people who are already too drunk), can be incredibly unsafe for the hospitality/bottle-o worker, depending on the customer's reaction. That threat would be far worse with such an extensive list of people who will be consistently refused service.
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# ? May 15, 2016 23:50 |
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ABC vote compass confirms buyers remorse from 2013 election
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# ? May 15, 2016 23:53 |
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Does anyone know if the AEC has something on their website about where the polling booths are? We've had our boundaries changed again and I'd really rather not go to the wrong place, line up, and be told I'm actually out of area by 500 metres.
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# ? May 16, 2016 00:48 |
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OK maybe a small silver lining from the Arts cutbacks - Quadrant has been defunded as well. Of course they blame 'teh left' for this http://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2016/05/australia-councils-revenge/ quote:The only leftist literary magazine to miss out this year was Meanjin, but it was teetering on its last legs anyway,
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# ? May 16, 2016 00:58 |
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Starshark posted:Does anyone know if the AEC has something on their website about where the polling booths are? We've had our boundaries changed again and I'd really rather not go to the wrong place, line up, and be told I'm actually out of area by 500 metres. Border booths are meant to have both sets of papers. The worst will be just do an absentee vote, filling out the envelope is easier than driving to a different school
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https://twitter.com/australian/status/731985698325069824
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# ? May 16, 2016 01:03 |
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V for Vegas posted:OK maybe a small silver lining from the Arts cutbacks - Quadrant has been defunded as well. Of course they blame 'teh left' for this Maybe if they did a better job of promoting themselves. Bloody ivory tower dwelling whingers.
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# ? May 16, 2016 01:04 |
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Wow, Duncan doesn't want to talk to Murdoch Character Assassins? Colour me SHOCKED!
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# ? May 16, 2016 01:05 |
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Why wont the man on suicide watch talk to us about being a filthy poor dole bludging scoundrel?????
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# ? May 16, 2016 01:11 |
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Sensible debate: ignoring the issue raised and personally attacking the person who raised it.
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# ? May 16, 2016 01:19 |
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open24hours posted:Maybe if they did a better job of promoting themselves. Bloody ivory tower dwelling whingers. This is some serious Windschuttling going on in this piece. quote:The Australian Council last week announced it would cut its annual grant to Quadrant magazine to zero.
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# ? May 16, 2016 01:33 |
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What exactly is the Australian Book Review doing with its extra funding - oh, just paying writers more money http://www.australianbookreview.com.au/images/PDFs_2016/ABR_lifts_its_payments_to_freelance_writers.pdf quote:Because of strong continuing support from the Australia Council for the Arts,
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# ? May 16, 2016 01:40 |
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Can't even do dumb idealogical policy on the run Mr Speaka! http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-16/tax-treaty-to-deliver-billions-to-us-treasury/7416534 That whole trickle down BS about the corporate tax cut? Well looks like someone forgot about the US tax treaty and the size of US corporate involvement. quote:Turnbull's tax treaty will deliver multi-billion-dollar 'gift' to US Treasury, research shows AM By Stephen Long Updated 22 minutes ago Trickle down does work! Say it isn't so? Oh OK. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-16/verrender-cutting-taxes-to-balance-the-budget/7416608 quote:Cutting taxes to balance the budget? You're having a Laffer OPINION By Ian Verrender posted about 2 hours ago You almost have to admire the stubborn stupidity and incompetence. How long is usually between tragedy and comedy? Also 'stopped the boats': No you haven't didn't, you just stopped talking about it. Are people really this dumb.
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# ? May 16, 2016 01:43 |
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The average voter is actually very dumb. Extremely loving dumb. I cannot even begin to explain how dumb they are.
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# ? May 16, 2016 01:46 |
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gay picnic defence posted:It's the answer to the equation you loving idiot. Calm down. No need to fly off the handle about a difference in theoretical policy approach.
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# ? May 16, 2016 01:48 |
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Look what the newest LNP ad does! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfFlXhCQ24g
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# ? May 16, 2016 01:49 |
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See, the voter base is so dumb you can wheel out that dickhead from AUSSIE for more votes!
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# ? May 16, 2016 01:51 |
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Yes clearly the Australian is the victim in all this, also she deleted her twitter account. V for Vegas posted:OK maybe a small silver lining from the Arts cutbacks - Quadrant has been defunded as well. Of course they blame 'teh left' for this The free market will fix it.
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# ? May 16, 2016 01:57 |
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This whole saga has been a complete mess
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# ? May 16, 2016 01:59 |
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Is sky news even profitable here? They keep giving every dickhead and his dog it's own show and they are all flops so what's the point really?
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# ? May 16, 2016 01:59 |
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I strongly doubt it
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# ? May 16, 2016 02:04 |
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Anidav posted:Is sky news even profitable here? They keep giving every dickhead and his dog it's own show and they are all flops so what's the point really? Push an ideological pov
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Anidav posted:Is sky news even profitable here? They keep giving every dickhead and his dog it's own show and they are all flops so what's the point really? It's advertising
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# ? May 16, 2016 02:05 |
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It's only one third owned by news Corp anyway.
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# ? May 16, 2016 02:07 |
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If a right winger says an opinion and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
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Mithranderp posted:Not just logistically as well. As you are well aware, refusing service to some people, even just with current policy (i.e. not selling to people who are already too drunk), can be incredibly unsafe for the hospitality/bottle-o worker, depending on the customer's reaction. That threat would be far worse with such an extensive list of people who will be consistently refused service. Secondary to that, if people who want booze can't buy it legally, they'll either just buy it illegally or make it themselves. It's not rocket science. WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Push an ideological pov
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# ? May 16, 2016 02:13 |
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Anidav posted:If a right winger says an opinion and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound? Someone always hears it. Most people probably experience Sky News indirectly but they're constantly being quoted in other media with lines like "X said Y in an interview on Sky News".
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# ? May 16, 2016 02:16 |
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Cartoon posted:
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Galbraith (1908 -2006)
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CrazyTolradi posted:Secondary to that, if people who want booze can't buy it legally, they'll either just buy it illegally or make it themselves. It's not rocket science. I mean, you could probably make some kind of rocket from really pure moonshine...
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# ? May 16, 2016 02:38 |
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The odd thing about Sky/Shill News is that there are people who actually do change the channel just to watch it. Also it gets displayed in a few public places in Brisbane CBD, but that might just be Brisbane.txt at play.
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# ? May 16, 2016 02:40 |
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Labor's workplace relations spokesman has repeatedly refused to guarantee that weekend penalty rates would not be cut under a Shorten government, despite the opposition making the issue a key part of its campaign strategy. In a fiery interview on Melbourne radio station 3AW on Monday, host Neil Mitchell castigated Brendan O'Connor for saying voters should await the final decision of the independent industrial umpire. Opposition Leader Bill Shorten later also refused to guarantee penalty rates would not fall under Labor, while saying only his party could be trusted to protect the "penalty rates system". The independent workplace relations tribunal, the Fair Work Commission, is assessing weekend penalty rates in the retail and hospitality industries, and a decision to reduce rates could be handed down shortly after the election campaign. Labor's campaign advertisements state that, if elected, the party would "keep weekend penalty rates" but the party has also vowed to respect the independent of the commission. 3AW host Neil Mitchell. 3AW host Neil Mitchell. Mr O'Connor said, if elected, Labor would "intervene" by making a submission to the Fair Work Commission in support of penalty rates. "Labor is the party of penalty rates," he said. "There is a fundamental principle of independence at stake here. "Labor believes in the independence of the umpire; always have." When asked by Mitchell if he could guarantee that weekend penalty rates would not be cut under a Labor government, Mr O'Connor said: "The umpire makes these decisions." Mr O'Connor said it was not a "black and white issue" because, under some industrial deals, workers had traded away penalty rates for other conditions and not been left worse off. Mitchell accused Mr O'Connor of trying to avoid his questions and offering voters a "pig in a poke" by saying he would await the final decision of the commission. Mitchell grew exasperated when Mr O'Connor declined to say "yes" when asked seven times whether he supported Bill Shorten's past statements on the issue, backing the independence of the umpire. "I support the principle of independence of the umpire [but] I believe the weight of our arguments will have a bearing on the outcome," Mr O'Connor said. Speaking in Geelong, Mr Shorten said: "I can guarantee to the workers here and indeed workers across Australia, that only a Labor Government can be trusted to protect our penalty rates system ... The case to get rid of penalty rates simply doesn't stack up." Mr Shorten said, by contrast, at least 50 Coalition MPs had backed reducing or abolishing penalty rates. Industry spokesman Kim Carr said on Monday: "In all my experience with the Labor party our defence of penalty rates has been absolute, I expect it to continue that way." ACTU President Ged Kearney told The Australian Financial Review she would "certainly like to see some more protections for penalty rates". "What that would look like in legislation, or through the award system, is yet to be determined, but we would certainly like to see something that would go a bit further to protecting penalty rates than we have now," she said. The Greens on Monday announced a policy to legislate to protect existing penalty rates and the Australian Council of Trade Unions (ACTU) is pushing for stronger protections for weekend workers. Mr O'Connor said enshrining penalty rates in legislation, as proposed by the Greens, would be "reckless". "If you wanted to legislate the way the Greens are proposing you would open the door for the Liberals to have the mechanism to abolish penalty rates," he said.
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# ? May 16, 2016 02:40 |
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Actually Brisbane's screen shows Channel 7 now.
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# ? May 16, 2016 02:41 |
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I think the News corp office has Sky News on the tv
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# ? May 16, 2016 02:42 |
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So is Shorten sneakily wedging towards dropping penalty rates or are they just being polite in waiting for the independent review?
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# ? May 16, 2016 02:43 |
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Mithranderp posted:I mean, you could probably make some kind of rocket from really pure moonshine... Snod. posted:I think the News corp office has Sky News on the tv
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can do Campbell Newman has cost Queensland taxpayers more than half a million dollars in costs to settle a defamation suit over his comments when premier that lawyers for bikies were “part of the criminal gang machine”. Newman and his former attorney general Jarrod Bleijie are understood to have settled a suit brought by solicitors Chris and Daniel Hannay with a $525,000 payout, Guardian Australia can reveal. It is understood Newman and Bleijie declined to offer public apologies to the Hannays that could have reduced the amount taxpayers would pay on their behalf, instead offering only to make face-to-face apologies, which were rejected. Taxpayers’ exposure to the case will be greater than the $525,000 payout figure, as they also have to wear the cost of legal teams for Newman, Bleijie and the Hannays. Under political convention in Queensland, the government indemnifies politicians who are sued in the course of their duties. Legal sources told Guardian Australia that a $525,000 settlement was large for a defamation suit, and a public apology may have reduced taxpayers’ exposure. Newman was targeted by the libel suit after responding in February 2014 to a question about reports the Hannays had advised clients not to appear in court together for fear of being arrested under anti-association laws. The then premier told a media conference: “I’m sure that’s completely disingenuous from the defence lawyers concerned and I am sure they have ways of dealing with that. That is just nonsense.” “These people are hired guns. They take money from people who sell drugs to our teenagers and young people. “Yes, everybody’s got a right to be defended under the law, but you’ve got to see it for what it is, they are part of the machine, part of the criminal gang machine and they will see, say and do anything to defend their clients and try to get them off or indeed progress their sort of case, their dishonest case.” Bleijie was also targeted in the lawsuit over his comments a day later that Newman was responding specifically to a question about Hannay Lawyers on the Gold Coast. The Hannays alleged Bleijie’s remarks helped identify them as the targets of Newman’s attack, despite the attorney general’s lawyers arguing they were “made generally with respect to unidentified lawyers and criminal gang members at the Gold Coast”. The Hannays, represented by prominent defamation lawyer Stuart Littlemore, filed a claim seeking $1.2m in aggravated damages from Newman and Bleijie in April 2014. Newman and Bleijie filed a defence that accused Chris Hannay of “an attempt to interfere with the administration of justice” and contempt of court by advising clients not to front court together. The case went to mediation with former high court judge Ian Callinan. It is the second high-profile defamation case involving Newman as premier which has concluded since he was unseated in the January 2015 election that cost the LNP government. Days before that election, Newman sued Alan Jones over the broadcaster’s comments the LNP government had “prostituted” itself in support of a donor’s controversial coalmine. Guardian Australia revealed that while this suit was being drawn up, Newman’s lawyers in the Hannays matter tried to have a deadline of his defence pushed back to the day before the election. The suit, funded by the LNP, was dropped months later. Newman did not respond to a request for comment on Sunday. Bleijie declined to comment when contacted by Guardian Australia. Neither of the Hannays could be reached for comment. Newman’s remarks about lawyers provoked widespread ire in the legal community, with the Queensland Bar Association and the Queensland Law Society calling for him to withdraw them and apologise. Peter Davis, the then president of the bar association, said he was contacted by Bleijie at the time and told there would be no apology from Newman. “The idea that a lawyer, by representing someone who is accused of a criminal offence, is somehow or other joining the criminality is just misconceived,” Davis told the ABC at the time. The fracas came at the height of the former Liberal National government’s political campaign against outlaw motorcycle gangs and uncertainty in the legal community over the scope of the anti-association laws. A solicitor, Adam Magill, said he was forced to send home witnesses threatened with arrest by police at the Maroochydore magistrates court in late 2013. Another solicitor, Andrew Bale, had written to the police commissioner and the director of public prosecutions five months before Newman’s remarks asking if clients would be arrested for facing court together but received no reply. http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/may/16/campbell-newman-defamation-case-taxpayers-cover-525000-payout
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# ? May 16, 2016 02:58 |
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Sky news could be cool in theory if you wanted to see a politician (its the only channel they appear on really)
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Anidav posted:The average voter is actually very dumb. hi
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here comes Exhibit A right on time
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