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spacetoaster posted:It was supposed to be a "debate" about trans stuff. But the second the guy made his statement the trans "woman" actually told him to watch his mouth or he'd be leaving in an ambulance while grabbing his neck. Everyone else involved with the show thought that was a great thing and a good debate technique. "That sounds mildly inappropriate for a political discussion" instead of "that sounds kinda hot" This fuckin' guy
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Mange Mite posted:Who was the guy who talked about how trans women want to be treated like women except they act like men when it comes to sex, violence, and literally everything else This is a post in a quote chain leading back to that guy spacetoaster posted:Oh snap, apparently after the cameras turned off the transwoman threatened to curb stomp the guy and said she'd be waiting in the parking lot. Security had to get involved and the skinny dude called the cops and filed a criminal complaint. why isnt that last bit about the parking lot in the scan of the police report? Twinty Zuleps fucked around with this message at 02:10 on May 16, 2016 |
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Foo Diddley posted:"That sounds mildly inappropriate for a political discussion" instead of "that sounds kinda hot" The deep-voiced block monster in the blond tresses? That's not hot. I could paint a sexier face on a smooth rock and have a better time. Yech.
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Wulfolme posted:why isnt that last bit about the parking lot in the scan of the police report? Sorry, I googled the incident and read a smattering of news reports about it.
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phasmid posted:The deep-voiced block monster in the blond tresses? That's not hot. I could paint a sexier face on a smooth rock and have a better time. Yech. *sigh* I guess acceptance can't happen all at once
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Foo Diddley posted:*sigh* I guess acceptance can't happen all at once http://www.latimes.com/local/abcarian/la-me-ra-transgender-zoey-tur-20150724-column.html You see, grabbing someone by the neck and threatening to send them home in an ambulance is what any woman would do. “I reacted like any woman would react,” Tur said Thursday.
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Mange Mite posted:Who was the guy who talked about how trans women want to be treated like women except they act like men when it comes to sex, violence, and literally everything else Foo Diddley posted:Yeah, see, maybe I'm dumb but I'm not seeing how the "utility of the person" relates to transexual issues, or to anything at all for that matter
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spacetoaster posted:http://www.latimes.com/local/abcarian/la-me-ra-transgender-zoey-tur-20150724-column.html Jesus wept. This is why you can only make stupid loving jokes about this poo poo; try and take it seriously and you'll lose your drat mind
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Maoist Pussy posted:It is spelled "Thundara" Thundara is the name of a magical spell, Thundra is the name of a badass bitch spacetoaster posted:It was supposed to be a "debate" about trans stuff. But the second the guy made his statement the trans "woman" actually told him to watch his mouth or he'd be leaving in an ambulance while grabbing his neck. Everyone else involved with the show thought that was a great thing and a good debate technique. You really don't need the scare quotes around woman. It's really disrespectful to trans women
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ArbitraryC posted:I dunno really what he meant by that line but it's p clear the rest of the post was talking about how now instead of just being a girl who likes traditionally masculine things or a guy who likes traditionally feminine things we've created a cultural situation where not rigidly ascribing to gender roles means you must be a dude trapped in a girl's body or vice versa, a lot of the narrative surrounding gender identity is almost regressive in how rigid they treat what men and women should do. The potential ramification of this are pretty self explanatory. There was a guy in the e/n trans thread who was like, "I feel comfortable with being called a man or sir, and having a penis and my body, and I don't really want to be a woman. But I like knitting and feminine stuff, and I'm not very aggressive and I don't like sports. Am I trans?" I said isn't that just being a feminine man? and the e/n mod said "It's whatever he says it is!" Credit where it's due, the majority of the other trans thread posters were like, you're just a feminine guy, don't make it a thing.
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i like sports and beer and loving chicks, but i wanna cut my dick off and wear a dress, does that make me trans??
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BeefThief posted:i like sports and beer and loving chicks, but i wanna cut my dick off and wear a dress, does that make me trans?? It makes you whatever you want to be
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BeefThief posted:i like sports and beer and loving chicks, but i wanna cut my dick off and wear a dress, does that make me trans?? It makes you woman of the year.
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Mange Mite posted:Good, hopefully women will now fear being called trannies as much as modern men already fear being called faggots for stepping anywhere outside social gender norms.
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boom boom boom posted:Thundara is the name of a magical spell, Thundra is the name of a badass bitch That's the only thing you have to say? You're just really upset over "scare quotes"? Like, I didn't even know what scare quotes were. It's just that I don't really buy some giant thug grabbing someone's neck and threatening their well-being is really feminine behavior.
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spacetoaster posted:That's the only thing you have to say? You're just really upset over "scare quotes"? Like, I didn't even know what scare quotes were. It's just that I don't really buy some giant thug grabbing someone's neck and threatening their well-being is really feminine behavior. Sure, what Tur did there is bad, but putting quotes around woman in the phrase trans woman is just being needlessly antagonistic
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boom boom boom posted:needlessly antagonistic
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boom boom boom posted:Sure, what Tur did there is bad, but putting quotes around woman in the phrase trans woman is just being needlessly antagonistic I don't think "Tur" hangs out in "gbs". I "think" d&d is "more" her "style".
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spacetoaster posted:I don't think "Tur" hangs out in "gbs". There is a big trans community on SA. If we want to have an actual discussion in this thread and not just say "lol those dudes are crazy. Don't cut off your dick, moron!" over and over again, I think having some actual trans voices is important. And just casually questioning their identities by, for example, putting scar quotes around the word woman when discussing a trans woman, is the exact thing that will make trans people think their voices won't be listened to or their opinions valued.
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boom boom boom posted:There is a big trans community on SA. If we want to have an actual discussion in this thread and not just say "lol those dudes are crazy. Don't cut off your dick, moron!" over and over again, I think having some actual trans voices is important. And just casually questioning their identities by, for example, putting scar quotes around the word woman when discussing a trans woman, is the exact thing that will make trans people think their voices won't be listened to or their opinions valued. Sure, but don't they have that exact fuckin' thread on E/N or some poo poo? The reason people can't engage with fuckin' trannies is because to them everything is some LIFE OR DEATH poo poo. There's no in-between; it's all extreme, all political, all the fuckin' time. You're like conservatives in that you can't take a fuckin' joke. Lay the gently caress off already
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Foo Diddley posted:Sure, but don't they have that exact fuckin' thread on E/N or some poo poo? The e/n thread goes too far the other way, where you can't challenge silly made up genders, for example. Basically, there has to be a middle ground where people with serious, fundamental disagreements can talk about this stuff. Not e/n, but not /pol/ either
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boom boom boom posted:Not e/n, but not /pol/ either If you ever find this place, tell me where it is
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boom boom boom posted:There is a big trans community on SA. If we want to have an actual discussion in this thread and not just say "lol those dudes are crazy. Don't cut off your dick, moron!" over and over again, I think having some actual trans voices is important. And just casually questioning their identities by, for example, putting scar quotes around the word woman when discussing a trans woman, is the exact thing that will make trans people think their voices won't be listened to or their opinions valued. Your huge rap sheet for being a troll makes me trust you more than other people here. I also like your red text avatar. boom boom boom posted:putting scar quotes . You're really worked up over some dumb stuff, aren't you? lol "OMG, you put SCARE QUOTES around the word "woman". It's a really big deal ya'll!"
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I'm actually a woman pretending to be a man pretending to be a sexist woman, here to teach you a lesson about double reverse discrimination.
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spacetoaster posted:Your huge rap sheet for being a troll makes me trust you more than other people here. Your posts in the Japan.jpg thread on the other hand...
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spacetoaster posted:Your huge rap sheet for being a troll makes me trust you more than other people here. I also like your red text avatar. I'm not a troll, mods are just facists spacetoaster posted:You're really worked up over some dumb stuff, aren't you? lol The thing is, to trans people, it absolutely is a big deal. Their entire deal is they want to be seen as their preferred gender. When you put scare quotes around the word woman, you're casually dismissing their identity. You can absolutely believe that trans women aren't actually women, but don't be a dick about it
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Yeah it's their entire deal. That's kind of the point I think.
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boom boom boom posted:I'm not a troll, mods are just facists Ill stop being a dick when they get rid of theirs Also, you must be a dick in gbs, it's right in the rules.
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Al Cowens posted:Your posts in the Japan.jpg thread on the other hand... It's a .jpg thread in gbs. And nobody is even trying to be funny. Every other .jpg thread has funny pictures but japan? Noooooooo, japan is above being made fun of.  boom boom boom posted:I'm not a troll, mods are just facists Well, that's cool. boom boom boom posted:The thing is, to trans people, it absolutely is a big deal. Their entire deal is they want to be seen as their preferred gender. When you put scare quotes around the word woman, you're casually dismissing their identity. You can absolutely believe that trans women aren't actually women, but don't be a dick about it Doesn't mean it has to be a big deal (or even a minor deal) for anyone else though. And gently caress you for thinking you can tell me how to act/speak/write about it.  
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Scientologists believe that we are all possessed by the spirits of dead space demons. If you don't agree with them it is really disrespectful.
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Maoist Pussy posted:Scientologists believe that we are all possessed by the spirits of dead space demons. If you don't agree with them it is really disrespectful. You forgot the scare quotes. I can't take this seriously.
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spacetoaster posted:You forgot the scare quotes. I can't take this seriously. Maoist Pussy posted:Scientologists believe that we are all possessed by the spirits of "dead" space demons. If you don't agree with them it is really disrespectful. FTFY
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Doesn't the prefix "trans-" mean "beyond"? It all seems like such a hodgepodge of obscure terminology. If you're beyond sexual there's no need to argue. Let's just call everybody fucker. "My fucker wants me to pick up some eggs." "Hey, fucker, come down here and walk the dog!" "Suck my cock for money you dirty fucker" et cetera. It's gender neutral and, in time, endearing.
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Doesn't "phasmid" mean "any of an order (Phasmatodea syn. Phasmida) of large cylindrical or sometimes flattened chiefly tropical insects (as a walking stick) that have long legs, strictly phytophagous habits, and incomplete metamorphosis and that include forms resembling leaves or twigs"? It all seems like such a hodgepodge of bad posting.
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boom boom boom posted:There is a big trans community on SA. If we want to have an actual discussion in this thread and not just say "lol those dudes are crazy. Don't cut off your dick, moron!" over and over again, I think having some actual trans voices is important. And just casually questioning their identities by, for example, putting scar quotes around the word woman when discussing a trans woman, is the exact thing that will make trans people think their voices won't be listened to or their opinions valued. Everyone is open game on GBS except for troons
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Maoist Pussy posted:Scientologists believe that we are all possessed by the spirits of dead space demons. If you don't agree with them it is really disrespectful. Have you seen the internet? I'm not saying they are right, but dead space demons would explain some things.
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boom boom boom posted:The e/n thread goes too far the other way, where you can't challenge silly made up genders, for example. Some people are paying attention to posts made in earnest in a dumb GBS thread where no one has any appearances to keep up. Do you feel like transtrenders are real, and a problem for the actual transsexuals and their cause?
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