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For a bunch of loving autistic computer nerds I am absolutely shocked you are asking this question
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May 16, 2016 05:11
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CI, I've come to realize that we're not dealing with nerds here. Nerds are smart. Anyone who both complains about the "crushing load" of homework in elementary school AND posts on these forums is just a regular old loser. Who am I kidding, thinking back to my own days in elementary school I can remember nothing but long nights spent slaving over dinosaur name word searches and multiplication tables.
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May 16, 2016 07:00
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Lmao at anyone complaining about homework quantities in elementary/high school.
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May 16, 2016 07:19
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If you cut back on homework in elementary school, how are you ever going to get kids used to the amount of homework they'll have in college?
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May 16, 2016 07:26
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It would be hypocritical for me to complain about homework load because I hardly ever did any of it at home. Just pull that dumb poo poo out and fill it out during some boring class
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May 16, 2016 07:46
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I had homework maybe twice during my entire schooling k-12, I don't know how the poo poo people ended up with homework. I guess they just didn't care to pay attention in class and finish their poo poo during the copious amount of time that the teachers spent over-explaining poo poo to the stupid people.
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May 16, 2016 07:59
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Jordan7hm posted:It's still there and the systems they use to teach are almost certainly better than what we had growing up. Don't let anecdotes convice you otherwise. Actual learning disabilities are a separate issue, which I did say right at the beginning. But I don't think there's a huge percentage of the "waaah math is hard" crowd that has a disability. I will agree that there is a huge problem with math pedagogy in general, though. Some concepts are usually explained very poorly because teachers are lazy and in many cases do not understand the math they're teaching.
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May 16, 2016 08:00
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Consider how many of us take years of French lessons and how few of us could blunder our way through a conversation in French as adults. V MERDE! TABERNAC! (p.s. don't actually say these anywhere in Western Canada because you'd sound like a total douche.) Pixelante fucked around with this message at 09:25 on May 16, 2016 |
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May 16, 2016 09:04
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I was in French immersion for ten years and I lost everything but the curse words
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May 16, 2016 09:06
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Pixelante posted:Consider how many of us take years of French lessons and how few of us could blunder our way through a conversation in French as adults. GASP. It's almost like Math and languages have something in common and that most people are actually just poo poo at recognizing and remembering patterns (and think that's okay(It's not))
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May 16, 2016 09:09
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Pixelante posted:Consider how many of us take years of French lessons and how few of us could blunder our way through a conversation in French as adults. That's a pedagogical issue as well. I don't remember learning about verbs at all until sixth grade, and I'm pretty sure we didn't complete learning about the present tense until 7th. This is poo poo we could knock out in one semester, because it's quite easy. I don't remember ever learning properly about direct and indirect object pronouns, which makes it very hard to understand most things, and very hard to construct even basic sentences. It was only after learning these things in Spanish that I looked back and realized how loving useless French class was for those 9 years. Surprise: word searches don't build language fluency, you stupid fucks! Edit: the issue with all language classes below the college level (and even at the college level in some cases) is that students put more emphasis on trying to get the best mark with the least effort, instead of trying to learn the language. The flaw in this is that, when you're trying to speak the language and flailing around like a moron, unable to understand anything, that 90 you got in French or Spanish or whatever means precisely gently caress all. PT6A fucked around with this message at 09:25 on May 16, 2016 |
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May 16, 2016 09:22
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CLAM DOWN posted:Lmao at anyone complaining about homework quantities in elementary/high school. I want to know what schools are actually giving 2-3 hours of work a night to an elementary student. I think I had maybe 2-3 hours of homework a week throughout high school, maybe 2-3 hours total throughout the school year in elementary. Hell I don't think I did 2-3 hours a night during my undergrad 
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May 16, 2016 10:00
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A Typical Goon posted:I want to know what schools are actually giving 2-3 hours of work a night to an elementary student. I mean, there's work assigned and there's work done.
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May 16, 2016 10:38
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A Typical Goon posted:I want to know what schools are actually giving 2-3 hours of work a night to an elementary student. I definitely had that much being assigned occasionally, but it wasn't every week and I rarely did it all. I have to assume the only people complaining are the lovely parents that raised their kids to get high 90s in every class or they're a failure.
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May 16, 2016 10:47
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We could easily produce bilingual students - most of Europe manages that just fine. Hell, sometimes people speak 3 languages. But there's really no incentive in the current climate and speaking as an Ontarian there would be quite a few parents complaining their child isn't learning something more "useful", or learning their own heritage language. I can honestly say nothing is more useful than learning French in Canada, employment-wise. However the rarity of that skill has a lot to do with it.
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May 16, 2016 13:00
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That would require a whole-language approach where students spend most of their time speaking naturally instead of reciting the conjugations of être to the rhythm of a windup plastic frog.
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May 16, 2016 13:30
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A Typical Goon posted:I want to know what schools are actually giving 2-3 hours of work a night to an elementary student. My kid had her grade 5 teacher doing this two years ago. An initial chat didn't fix it but threatening to take it to the principal magically did. Three hours of homework a night at that age is counter productive and is toxic to your home life and no one should tolerate it happening.
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May 16, 2016 14:41
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Pinterest Mom posted:15 month long race Evidently the NDP have looked at the hellishly long US primary season and thought "yeah, that. That looks like what we need here in Canada."
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May 16, 2016 14:41
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Time for some Ontario news.quote:Ontario to spend $7-billion on sweeping climate change plan Wonder how the OLP will manage to gently caress this one up.
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May 16, 2016 14:48
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vyelkin posted:Time for some Ontario news. They will gently caress it up the usual way by being awful and corrupt and then get replaced by spiteful voters with the PC's who will immediately slash and burn any progressive climate change policy.
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May 16, 2016 15:04
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In advance of the sale of this electric utility, possibly to the moneyed corporate interests who fund us, we think everyone should start using their product. Neato.
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May 16, 2016 15:17
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Welp, looks like agenda 21 is now in full effect may god help us
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May 16, 2016 15:21
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The problem with homework is that it reinforces social and economic privilege. Who do you think is going to do better with homework, the fifteen year old with a comfortable, stable, middle class homelife with parents who have the leisure time needed to help, or the fifteen year old whose mom double shifts into the grave yard just to pay rent on their lovely apartment and daddy has a drinking problem who doesn't like being bothered? In essence homework ends up punishing those students who don't have a quiet and stable space at home. Which is a lot of students. School needs to be completely reimagined to deal with the complexities of 21st century western society. I'm a huge fan of heuristics/experiential learning, as it instils in students the methods and habits actually necessary to be critical lifelong learners. Study after study shows that students who construct their own knowledges retain more and are more successful moving forward. That being said, I am still on the fence with regards to fully implementing constructivisn in math education. There are fundamental building blocks that students must master if they are to successfully move forward. Part of the problem, as mentioned, is that the vast (and I mean vast) majority of teachers and student teachers suck at math. poo poo, the vast majority of teachers in Canada don't have any post-secondary training besides their education degree, and that to me is rear end backwards. Whenever I hear a teacher wings about how "math is too hard" or "I'm just not a math person" like its a goddamn lifestyle I simultaneously want to smack them and also know their students are doomed. That being said, the colleagues I know who are actual math majors and possess higher level abilities are almost uniformly on board with constructivist pedagogy in the math classroom. They believe students can build their own understandings of math, but I would suggest students need a strong hand on the till in that case.
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May 16, 2016 15:37
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Isn't electricity for heating way more expensive and less efficient? Is this just a way for the OLP to increase the value of the hydro utility?
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May 16, 2016 15:43
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So so far it's Michael Chong, Max Bernier and Kellie Lietch declared running for Conservative leader. Anyone think any of these folks could beat the libs?
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May 16, 2016 15:54
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Behind every parent complaining about homework loads is a student lying about how much time they waste in school. In high school, anyway. Stickarts posted:poo poo, the vast majority of teachers in Canada don't have any post-secondary training besides their education degree, and that to me is rear end backwards. Whenever I hear a teacher wings about how "math is too hard" or "I'm just not a math person" like its a goddamn lifestyle I simultaneously want to smack them and also know their students are doomed.
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May 16, 2016 15:55
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sliderule posted:It should have been excluded from play because of its lyrical content. Just like they should exclude music that promotes homeopathy, reiki, or human sacrifice. A huge part of Bach's music is dedicated to god and is specifically signed "SDG" (*) which means "glory to god alone". I'm an atheist. I dig Bach. Bach's music has not yet turned me into a born-again Christian, but I will keep you posted. (*) soli deo gloria
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May 16, 2016 16:00
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the trump tutelage posted:Behind every parent complaining about homework loads is a student lying about how much time they waste in school. The only way in is still to know people, french specialty, minority (gender or race) in addition to your first bachelor, the now 2 years of teachers college, and your vast related work experience/volunteering. It's a very tough time even if you have 2 degrees and are trying to transition to a relevant secondary position. Stickarts posted:Part of the problem, as mentioned, is that the vast (and I mean vast) majority of teachers and student teachers suck at math. poo poo, the vast majority of teachers in Canada don't have any post-secondary training besides their education degree, and that to me is rear end backwards. Source your claim
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May 16, 2016 16:00
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vyelkin posted:Time for some Ontario news. Glen Murray come back to Manitoba please
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May 16, 2016 16:05
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Most kids suck at math because they learn from their parents that math is hard and it's okay to hate it. So they take that attitude to school and then give up easily and don't give a poo poo. It's not the teachers. Also I didn't do any homework until university. There is tons of time to do your work in class.
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May 16, 2016 16:06
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brucio posted:So so far it's Michael Chong, Max Bernier and Kellie Lietch declared running for Conservative leader. Anyone think any of these folks could beat the libs? The guy who threw a resignation tantrum because Quebec called itself a nation, the guy who gave secret documents to his gang-affiliated girlfriend and the Barbaric Cultural Practices lady. I'm sure the libs are positively quaking. cowofwar posted:Isn't electricity for heating way more expensive and less efficient? Is this just a way for the OLP to increase the value of the hydro utility? I have no idea, and probably yeah. I'd love to see some numbers that compare the total cost and efficiency loss from where the power is generated to its actual use in the home.
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May 16, 2016 16:15
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I'm very excited for billions to be spent on reducing the carbon footprint of 13 million people, while four billion people in Asia continue spewing exhaust into the atmosphere Fortunately it looks like climate change will solve a lot of this problem for us
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May 16, 2016 16:20
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"if we can't singlehandedly fix it why do anything at all" is and will continue to be a stupid argument for dipshits when applied to climate change (not that i expect the olp to do sth like this with addressing climate change actually being their primary concern, but u know)
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May 16, 2016 16:26
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cowofwar posted:Most kids suck at math because they learn from their parents that math is hard and it's okay to hate it. So they take that attitude to school and then give up easily and don't give a poo poo. It's not the teachers. I feel like this is sorta bullshit. Sure, that's some, but a large number of people that just have trouble grasping the concepts and will have to work twice as hard as an average person just to pull off a passing grade. quote:Also I didn't do any homework until university. There is tons of time to do your work in class. Depends on where you go, I guess - I know that, while I almost never had homework in elementary school, my high school teachers would regularly give out assignments at the end of class that were due at the beginning of the next day's class.
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May 16, 2016 16:29
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Brannock posted:I'm very excited for billions to be spent on reducing the carbon footprint of 13 million people, while four billion people in Asia continue spewing exhaust into the atmosphere Now we have the the excuse we need for military intervention in Asia.
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May 16, 2016 16:32
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Ambrose Burnside posted:"if we can't singlehandedly fix it why do anything at all" is and will continue to be a stupid argument for dipshits when applied to climate change not stupider than voluntarily impoverishing yourself for the profit of mega corporations. i swear this eco bullshit is like reverse socialism. take from the poor to give to the rich
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May 16, 2016 16:42
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jm20 posted:
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I will walk back on this one as I was painting in broad strokes but unless I have been misinformed, everything from Manitoba to BC you can enter the B.Ed. straight out of high school without an additional degree. I donno Eastern Canada well enough to comment.
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May 16, 2016 16:44
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Tsyni posted:Now we have the the excuse we need for military intervention in Asia. Are we talking a Vietnam style intervention or a Japan style intervention?
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May 16, 2016 16:52
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Stickarts posted:I will walk back on this one as I was painting in broad strokes but unless I have been misinformed, everything from Manitoba to BC you can enter the B.Ed. straight out of high school without an additional degree. I donno Eastern Canada well enough to comment. In BC you need a bachelors or equivalent as far as I can tell. I'm pretty sure you need one everywhere. Teachers College in Canada is post grad.
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Stickarts posted:I will walk back on this one as I was painting in broad strokes but unless I have been misinformed, everything from Manitoba to BC you can enter the B.Ed. straight out of high school without an additional degree. I donno Eastern Canada well enough to comment. uhhhh  BC quote:Post-secondary studies AB quote:holds an acceptable degree, other than a degree in education, from a university in Alberta or from an approved institution and completes an approved professional teacher education program in a faculty of education of a university in Alberta or at any other approved institution, or
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