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Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Luigi Thirty posted:

Trump's new nickname for Elizabeth Warren is Pocahontas :stare:

Buckle up folks this thing's going plaid.

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Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

FlamingLiberal posted:

He only had the one remaining minority group to offend, and now he's at 100%

He hasn't pissed off Asian-Americans yet, has he?

Bates
Jun 15, 2006

FlamingLiberal posted:

He only had the one remaining minority group to offend, and now he's at 100%

Trumpmentum! If hope they're going to start quizzing him on foreign relations soon so we can get some insights into his opinions on other countries.

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax

FlamingLiberal posted:

He only had the one remaining minority group to offend, and now he's at 100%

that unlocks an achievement i think :toot:


Where does the Warren Pocahontas stuff come from? Does she have native roots?

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

botany posted:

that unlocks an achievement i think :toot:


Where does the Warren Pocahontas stuff come from? Does she have native roots?

Here you go guy: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/is-elizabeth-warren-native-american-or-what/257415/

It is an entertaining read.

Edit: here is another straight from a unbiased source of the Atlantic is one of the bad ones now.
http://elizabethwarrenwiki.org/elizabeth-warren-native-american-cherokee-controversy/

Mr Hootington fucked around with this message at 13:44 on May 16, 2016

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?

botany posted:

that unlocks an achievement i think :toot:


Where does the Warren Pocahontas stuff come from? Does she have native roots?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/politicians/warren.asp

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Luigi Thirty posted:

Trump's new nickname for Elizabeth Warren is Pocahontas :stare:

Scott Brown showed that This Is A Winning Argument

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Cythereal posted:

He hasn't pissed off Asian-Americans yet, has he?

I'd assume the Yellow Peril and anti-Japanese poo poo have annoyed some people, though not the entire heterogeneous group obviously.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Cythereal posted:

He hasn't pissed off Asian-Americans yet, has he?

He had a cringeworthy imitation of Chinese businesspeople going into his office and saying "WE WANT DEAL"

It was basically a set of coke bottle glasses and buck teeth away from some 1930s racist poo poo.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Cythereal posted:

He hasn't pissed off Asian-Americans yet, has he?

The whole 'Asian people are raping our nation with their unfair trade deals and are sinister, sly folk' thing probably doesn't help him.

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax

Mr Hootington posted:

Here you go guy: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/is-elizabeth-warren-native-american-or-what/257415/

It is an entertaining read.

Edit: here is another straight from a unbiased source of the Atlantic is one of the bad ones now.
http://elizabethwarrenwiki.org/elizabeth-warren-native-american-cherokee-controversy/

Thanks. The whole thing seems dumb.

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

botany posted:

Thanks. The whole thing seems dumb.

Yeah, but it led to Republicans doing poo poo like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1XpAD8auCY

So get ready for some beautiful, awe-inspiring racism to come from Donald Trump. Pocahontas is just the beginning.

In other news, Carson has announced the VP shortlist in an interview with the Washington Post:

Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, John Kasich, Marco Rubio and Chris Christie are the names he gave.

Sarah Palin. Please let it happen. Let this election reach new heights.

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?
so palin, kasich, or christie is the real list. no fuckin way cruz or rubio take that job

Armani
Jun 22, 2008

Now it's been 17 summers since I've seen my mother

But every night I see her smile inside my dreams

Litany Unheard posted:

Sarah Palin. Please let it happen. Let this election reach new heights.

I am so sick of this election reaching for anything. I've hated every moment of it.

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

Well, nevermind, that was just friend Ben saying words that occurred to his brain in the moment. Someone read him a poll with those names and he agreed that they were on the list.

"Washington Post posted:

“Who else was on the list?” he asked quietly, maintaining his usual inscrutable calm. The most favorably regarded contenders after himself, he was told, were John Kasich, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin and Chris Christie.

“Those are all people on our list,” he said.

“Well, not you,” Candy [his wife] reminded him sharply.

...

Update: After this story was published, Carson called to clarify his comments: "When it comes to who could be the vice president and you name a list of people," he said. "I’m going to say yes to everybody, everybody could potentially be considered, doesn’t mean they are on the shortlist."

And of course the Trump factor means we could get literally anyone. I half-expect Trump to pull a Time magazine and announce that the American people are his running mates.

Armani posted:

I am so sick of this election reaching for anything. I've hated every moment of it.

Only six more months and we'll finally be released from this mortal coil.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Oh god please put Palin in there again, then we will reach Peak Insanity

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

FlamingLiberal posted:

Oh god please put Palin in there again, then we will reach Peak Insanity

You're Fired / I Quit 2016!

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Litany Unheard posted:

Only six more months and we'll finally be released from this mortal coil.

Praise Allah for the glorious destruction of the Great Satan when 12 million martyrs from across the southern border detonate their Ford Fiestas.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


gradenko_2000 posted:

You're Fired / I Quit 2016!

Didn't someone make this joke eight years ago predicting the current insanity?

MattD1zzl3
Oct 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!

mrbradlymrmartin posted:

who was protesting obama i wonder

He only has a 0.2 WMR (White male rating). Condaleeza, being both republican AND having worked for george W bush has a 0.75 WMR, more than enough to make students feel unsafe and trigger a protest. God help them if someone like an anderson cooper (0.6 WMR) or George Clooney (0.7 WMR) shows up.

Soviet Commubot
Oct 22, 2008


PhazonLink posted:

The POS Texas governor had the nation guard "monitor" army bases last summer because crazy "The UN is taking over" emails.

efb: on the the cops and killing non whites . Only two cents to add is SWATing the wrong house throwing flash bang grenades into cribs and shooting dogs.

From a while back but it wasn't the National Guard, he had the State Guard do the "monitoring". As the US Army Reserve is to the US Army the State Guard is to the National Guard, with the staggeringly low level of military competence that that implies.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Wapo has the most trite article I've seen in a while talking about how Hillary can lose if she does 1 of 12 things! Such as:

- being too far to the right
- being too far to the left
- being indicted
- not engaging Trump's attacks
- Bill "going off the reservation" (might want to rethink that one, you dumb motherfucker)
- not being likeable enough

Can it be 6 months from now already? gently caress.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe
Wow she engages Trump's attacks all over the place. She's raring to go, it's honestly when she comes across as most sincere.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Phone posted:

Wapo has the most trite article I've seen in a while talking about how Hillary can lose if she does 1 of 12 things! Such as:
- being indicted

This is the only thing that would sink her, and isn't likely to happen.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


My establishment democrat friends are already arzying in real life about how Trump is going to somehow maybe win due to a combination of Trump picking up the dissatisfied working class people in Pennsylvania and Bernie making all the leftists hate her in the primary. It's already driving me crazy that I as the Bernie supporter have to explain to them that their candidate (and almost assuredly mine once the primary ends) is in a pretty solid position and stop freaking out .

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Phone posted:

Wapo has the most trite article I've seen in a while talking about how Hillary can lose if she does 1 of 12 things! Such as:

- being too far to the right
- being too far to the left
- being indicted
- not engaging Trump's attacks
- Bill "going off the reservation" (might want to rethink that one, you dumb motherfucker)
- not being likeable enough

Can it be 6 months from now already? gently caress.

If it's one god thing the Conservative trilogy by Rick Pearlman taught me was that pundits have never known poo poo and aren't worth listening to

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Radish posted:

My establishment democrat friends are already arzying in real life about how Trump is going to somehow maybe win due to a combination of Trump picking up the dissatisfied working class people in Pennsylvania and Bernie making all the leftists hate her in the primary. It's already driving me crazy that I as the Bernie supporter have to explain to them that their candidate is in a pretty solid position and stop freaking out .

If you can manage it, use their fear to encourage them to GOTV. A lot of people here forget that unlike a tiny fraction of nerds on the internet (we and our counterparts) and academia, nobody follows politics closely enough to predict outcomes based on demographic changes and electoral maps, so of course they're terrified of Trump.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Talmonis posted:

If you can manage it, use their fear to encourage them to GOTV. A lot of people here forget that unlike a tiny fraction of nerds on the internet (we and our counterparts) and academia, nobody follows politics closely enough to predict outcomes based on demographic changes and electoral maps, so of course they're terrified of Trump.

Yeah they are all totally voting (we all pretty much go every election although this was my first primary voting) regardless of me which is a good thing.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Radish posted:

My establishment democrat friends are already arzying in real life about how Trump is going to somehow maybe win due to a combination of Trump picking up the dissatisfied working class people in Pennsylvania and Bernie making all the leftists hate her in the primary. It's already driving me crazy that I as the Bernie supporter have to explain to them that their candidate (and almost assuredly mine once the primary ends) is in a pretty solid position and stop freaking out .

Yeah it's worth pointing out (from your position, that is) that the vast majority of Bernie primary voters are going to be Hillary voters in the general. The noisy minority who say they will just vote Trump aren't really lost votes (in the sense that they were ever going to be potential Hillary -or Bernie- votes in the general) and most of those will probably just succumb to apathy by November anyway given their reasons for supporting Bernie in the primary.

It isn't so much that Bernie's a non-factor (despite not having an honest shot at winning he did a good job of raising awareness for populist issues which are probably going to play a big part in the party's platform dialogue moving forward) but that the primary split isn't nearly as rancorous as internet comment sections would suggest.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Personally I'd be interested in a study on if Bernie energized some people to vote and get interested that normally wouldn't have and if he was a net positive for Democrats in the general election. I hear a lot of stuff that Bernie is poisoning leftists from voting Democrat by raising populist issues and I have to think that those sorts of voters aren't so out of touch as to not realize what the regular DNC is all about and be perfect Democratic party line voters until Bernie activated them by talking about free college. Those people aren't voting for Clinton regardless so they are basically a non-factor while the majority will vote Democrat in the fall. I think it's more likely that some politically apathetic people got involved when Sanders started specifically messaging to them instead of ignoring their issues and then once invested decided that voting was worth their time.

That's just an un-grounded theory but I'd like to see if there is any truth to it. I also agree that the idea that Bernie and Hillary are savaging each other is laughable when you look to the right and see the clown show that was the GOP primary.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Refresh my memory, but did Jeb Bush actually say "[something], boy, I don't know" during the primaries because it came up in the West Wing and now I can't tell if I just hallucinated Jeb saying it IRL.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

That sounds more like a Bartlet quote than a Dubya quote to me but I don't know. Bush would have pretended to know what he's talking about and fumble for words.

Daniel Bryan
May 23, 2006

GOAT
Well there was the time that another mass shooting occurred and his response was "Stuff happens"

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

"Guacamole, boy, I don't know"

AbsoluteLlama
Aug 15, 2009

By the power vested in me by random musings in tmt... I proclaim you guilty of crustophilia!

FAUXTON posted:

Yeah it's worth pointing out (from your position, that is) that the vast majority of Bernie primary voters are going to be Hillary voters in the general. The noisy minority who say they will just vote Trump aren't really lost votes (in the sense that they were ever going to be potential Hillary -or Bernie- votes in the general) and most of those will probably just succumb to apathy by November anyway given their reasons for supporting Bernie in the primary.

It isn't so much that Bernie's a non-factor (despite not having an honest shot at winning he did a good job of raising awareness for populist issues which are probably going to play a big part in the party's platform dialogue moving forward) but that the primary split isn't nearly as rancorous as internet comment sections would suggest.

I dunno. My personal sample size is low of course, but I have a lot of bernie friends who spout bernie math all the time. I know most of them are claiming to vote 3rd party (libertarian party maybe? Greens? Too bad we don't have a real socialist/communist party that doesn't split every few years). I'll be interested to see how they vote after the convention, but I imagine they'll hold their noses and vote Hillary.

Personally I loving hate the Clintons and won't be voting Democrats even if Bernie won the nomination (I've always voted 3rd party; the best way to burn your vote). Hate me.

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

AbsoluteLlama posted:

I dunno. My personal sample size is low of course, but I have a lot of bernie friends who spout bernie math all the time. I know most of them are claiming to vote 3rd party (libertarian party maybe? Greens? Too bad we don't have a real socialist/communist party that doesn't split every few years). I'll be interested to see how they vote after the convention, but I imagine they'll hold their noses and vote Hillary.

Personally I loving hate the Clintons and won't be voting Democrats even if Bernie won the nomination (I've always voted 3rd party; the best way to burn your vote). Hate me.

I'm going to take a different tact and ask what you would like to see different about the Democrats to vote for them. I have my own critiques but maybe they're different.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

AbsoluteLlama posted:

I dunno. My personal sample size is low of course, but I have a lot of bernie friends who spout bernie math all the time. I know most of them are claiming to vote 3rd party (libertarian party maybe? Greens? Too bad we don't have a real socialist/communist party that doesn't split every few years). I'll be interested to see how they vote after the convention, but I imagine they'll hold their noses and vote Hillary.

Personally I loving hate the Clintons and won't be voting Democrats even if Bernie won the nomination (I've always voted 3rd party; the best way to burn your vote). Hate me.

Nah, you don't deserve any sort of strong emotional response.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Radish posted:

Yeah they are all totally voting (we all pretty much go every election although this was my first primary voting) regardless of me which is a good thing.

Conversely, all the people I know who are Trump supporters also never, ever vote. The best kind of Republican, really.

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.
As Greg Sargent so aptly put it this morning: "so yes, Democrats are wringing their hands about HIllary Clinton, but they wouldn't be Democrats if they weren't."

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Kro-Bar
Jul 24, 2004
USPOL May
SCOTUS punted the contraceptive mandate back to the lower courts. Ugh.

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